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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Thousands of people are suckered into forming over millions of dollars. It's ludicrous that pastors work over the crowds and live lavishly. Ever noticed how a lot of "humble" pastors live? Expensive cars, clothes, suits?

    Think about it.
    The vast majority of pastors are broke.
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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Should churches be defunded?
    Churches that spend their tithe money on political adds should have their non-profit status taken away. That's as far as they should take government regulations.

    All forms of preaching are allowed by the first amendment, including hate, race baiting, abortion, ethnic, and sex discrimination...

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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    “Should churches be defunded? If I recall they believe, iirc, taxpayer money. Or do they pay no taxes?” - Wake

    Churches don’t pay taxes nor should they.

    “Isn't it also true that churches, especially large churches, are run like businesses? Tax it.” - Wake

    Some churches are quite large and it is necessary to “run them like a business”. I’m not sure why this is a problem for you or anyone else.

    “These pseudo-businesses require tithes up to 10%. Perhaps catholicism can be an exception because it's a donation system.” - Wake

    They are all a “donation system”. You can’t require a tithe. If you did it would become a tax and churches do not have the power to tax.

    “Do you think the government should regulate preaching, like monitoring for hate speech against homosexuals and prostitutes?” - Wake

    Of course not. Do you think we should shut-down all churches that preach homosexuality is okay?

    In addition, all free-speech restrictions shoud be removed from churches and allow them to address or support any political candidate they choose.

    “Should churches be entirely defended? Taxed? Or the tithe system abolished?” - Wake

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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I used to manage maintenance at a very large church. To avoid taxes the clergymen had his lavish home built on the extensive church grounds. Had his personal vehicle under "church use" and all his groceries and utilities were part of "church functions and usage" so he only needed to claim only a tiny income yet lived much better then your average American.
    I hope you realize that very very few pastors live like that. Most are pretty darn poor actually.

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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    To be honest and not being a devil's advocate, I have seen on TV and associated with pastors who have large mansions and "live the good life". If I know of at least 8 of them myself, how many more could there be? Isn't that something to raise your eyebrow to?
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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Why shouldn't government regulate churches?
    Because government is getting gradually more and more liberal, more and more socialistic, more and more communistic, more and more dictatorial. All leftists Dictators hate Christianity because it makes impossible to enslave the people, to steal its money and to believe sweet fairy-tales of liberals.
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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alfons View Post
    Because government is getting gradually more and more liberal, more and more socialistic, more and more communistic, more and more dictatorial. All leftists Dictators hate Christianity because it makes impossible to enslave the people, to steal its money and to believe sweet fairy-tales of liberals.
    Alfons you really need to get a doctor man.


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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    To be honest and not being a devil's advocate, I have seen on TV and associated with pastors who have large mansions and "live the good life". If I know of at least 8 of them myself, how many more could there be? Isn't that something to raise your eyebrow to?
    They are likely all being watched for embezzlement.

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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Churches should be taxed if they don't engage in charitable activities.
    I would rather we taxed all of them than start making it conditional. That's far more dangerous. If we start social engineering the churches then the first amendment is pointless.

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    Re: Government regulation of Churches?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Alfons you really need to get a doctor man.
    I sent you to my Post # 5 on this thread, Mr.KG....pardon, Mr.Socialist.

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