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Respect.

BrettNortje

BrettNortje

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In 2007 i touched on this with a observation of 'the chocolate jesus.' who remembers that? that was a naked chocolate easter bunny of jesus, of course, and many people were offended. for the life of me i cannot remember if it was local for me or international, but it made the news.

Anyways, one thing led to another and i brooded that if there were a lot of men taking a shower after a company sports match, the boss would be given a towel to cover themselves before the older people that work in the company, because they would 'respect' the boss more. so, if the boss was 40 and the eldest was 57, the respect would go to the younger boss, of course.

Now i have been thinking, and it occurs to me that in my society, it is up to the elder gardener to respect the young boy of the house more than they respect them, of course. there are countless examples like this, where adults need to respect wealth ahead of experience or cultural norms that would upset the wealthy.

So, is respect about wealth and power? clearly it seems to be the reality while the parents teach this differently. to be politically correct, you must respect everyone, but, in reality, there is no respect for age, no respect for experience, and no respect for culture. this goes from the united nations to africa, packaged as rights, where the ways of the people of africa are often not 'respected' because they are older in generations than 'the west.' then there are instances where the customs are not respected because of 'rights involved' things, like child brides.

What is respect? does everybody deserve respect?
 
A few more observations i have about this topic are that disrespect is often found to be a source of power, where lashing out at the machine seems to be a great way to attract followers and so forth. then there are even phrases where one says that "you cannot teach an old dog new tricks," which is often forced on the old dogs, yes?

Think for a moment, the police are not respected, property is not respected and life is not respected. if we see a police person cruising in their squad car, often they are referred to as pigs? how much is vandalized by unhappy people, not wanting a way forwards through conventional means, rather rebelling in this way to get attention? think of a orphan that is starving from a lack of food in a magazine - we don't really care, it is just politically correct to say we do.

What is respected today? presidents seem to be respected, while they throw lives away for wars over a few kilometers of 'oil rich land?' the presidents do not respect the actual lives of their soldiers, not thinking of them as citizens that are willing to die for what they believe is right, sitting in their parliaments discussing how best to waste ammunitions and people. is it even cheaper to go to war and fight for the oil?
 
I think respect starts somewhere. if we want to have a good society, where the people do not need to like each other but merely respect each other, things would be much better. this could start with a publication in a newspaper, where they appeal to parents to try to make their kids 'respect' other kids at school. this, from an early age, could see the kids get along for the sake of getting along - why have an enemy while you can have a friend?

Then, they could go for the 'young people' by publicizing the 'rights' of the people that are poor. this could be where they try to show that life is hard for these people, and, that they need to be respected to keep up with the joneses if they are doing so every way they can, yes?

This could also cure racism if done correctly. then there are international incidents where if there is respect, there is no tension, of course.
 
BrettNortje said:
What is respect? does everybody deserve respect?
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Respect is earned, not granted. Nobody deserves to be respected. If you cannot earn respect, you don't deserve respect.
 
Everyone is to be respected, unless they do something to lose that respect. But all you selfish egotistical bastards will disagree with that I am sure.
 
The idea that respect should be earned originally meant that you should strive to be someone worthy of respect; you should strive to earn it. It was always assumed that when it comes to showing others respect, respect was to be given freely. Somehow millennials have managed to twist this to such a degree that they now genuinely think it's acceptable to disrespect people because they haven't earned respect yet.

FreedomFromAll said:
Everyone is to be respected, unless they do something to lose that respect. But all you selfish egotistical bastards will disagree with that I am sure.
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I can't figure out if this is supposed to be ironic humor, or if you really meant it and didn't realize that by calling everyone "selfish egotistical bastards" you were contradicting your own rule about respecting everyone.
 
Even small children deserve to be respected as human beings. If you treat others with kindness and respect when meeting them, they are more likely to do the same to you.

And, of coarse there are those who should, upon observation, simply be avoided, that's an all together different type of respect.
 
BrettNortje said:
In 2007 i touched on this with a observation of 'the chocolate jesus.' who remembers that? that was a naked chocolate easter bunny of jesus, of course, and many people were offended. for the life of me i cannot remember if it was local for me or international, but it made the news.

Anyways, one thing led to another and i brooded that if there were a lot of men taking a shower after a company sports match, the boss would be given a towel to cover themselves before the older people that work in the company, because they would 'respect' the boss more. so, if the boss was 40 and the eldest was 57, the respect would go to the younger boss, of course.

Now i have been thinking, and it occurs to me that in my society, it is up to the elder gardener to respect the young boy of the house more than they respect them, of course. there are countless examples like this, where adults need to respect wealth ahead of experience or cultural norms that would upset the wealthy.

So, is respect about wealth and power? clearly it seems to be the reality while the parents teach this differently. to be politically correct, you must respect everyone, but, in reality, there is no respect for age, no respect for experience, and no respect for culture. this goes from the united nations to africa, packaged as rights, where the ways of the people of africa are often not 'respected' because they are older in generations than 'the west.' then there are instances where the customs are not respected because of 'rights involved' things, like child brides.

What is respect? does everybody deserve respect?
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there are different levels of respect

there's the type of respect we give to each other as human, which acknowledges we are all equal which is different than the respect another can earn from me due to how they handle themselves in various situations but it has nothing to do with money
 
Depends on what sphere you are in...social, tourist, school, job, customer, home, etc.

How do you even know who has money? A boss has no power outside of work, etc.

In general, its a personal choice. Some people are disrespectful to strangers, some are not. I think its a genetic thing, treating other people like **** appeals to some, and probably helps them compete (clears the path with little effort). They are assholes, but then assholes can still find friends. Some anyway...a few are so far gone that I really wonder.
 
CrabCake said:
The idea that respect should be earned originally meant that you should strive to be someone worthy of respect; you should strive to earn it. It was always assumed that when it comes to showing others respect, respect was to be given freely. Somehow millennials have managed to twist this to such a degree that they now genuinely think it's acceptable to disrespect people because they haven't earned respect yet.



I can't figure out if this is supposed to be ironic humor, or if you really meant it and didn't realize that by calling everyone "selfish egotistical bastards" you were contradicting your own rule about respecting everyone.
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No I didnt break my own rule. Selfish egotistical bastards deserve no respect since they did something to lose that respect (ie being selfish and egotistical). No one respects a bully; and bullies do not deserve respect. Treating everyone with no respect until they earn it is not only ass backwards thinking but also egotistical. And it the type of attitude that allows you to treat strangers with no respect. Its a sign of bigger problems, such as racism, assholism, treating groups of people ****ty because you have no respect for them at all. And since you have no respect for the majority of people on this planet (you dont know most of the worlds population, meaning that you dont respect most humans) it is easy for you to create mental excuses for harming those that you do not respect.
 
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