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Who/What is God? (My thoughts typed)

First I would say to everyone that your concept of "God" or no god does not have to be wrong for mine to be right.

"God" is ALL. If not, then there is the possibility of other gods. All is all. It includes everything. In fact All is beyond our ability to comprehend. All is a comparison and is thus in concept limiting. As soon as we begin to attempt to formulate an understanding, by process we begin to limit "God" or All.

All is seamless, there are no parts. No beginning, no end. No good, no bad. All is one (again with the comparisons). As unpalatable as it may be to accept, if "God" is everything then we are God, not part, but not singularly.

We have the answers within us. We were closest in understanding the day we were born into this current life. Each day we unlearn as we age and we yearn to somehow return to that knowledge and experience.

"God" or whatever you choose to name it is pure love. The further we travel from pure love the less happy we are. That is the very reason that each must find his/her path. There is no one path as all paths lead to pure love.
 
MoSurveyor said:
So you take the "... ignorance is bliss" approach?

I prefer and live (as much as I can) by this from Charles Dickens:

"They were a boy and a girl. Yellow, meagre, ragged, scowling, wolfish; but prostrate, too, in their humility. Where graceful youth should have filled their features out, and touched them with its freshest tints, a stale and shrivelled hand, like that of age, had pinched, and twisted them, and pulled them into shreds. Where angels might have sat enthroned, devils lurked, and glared out menacing. No change, no degradation, no perversion of humanity, in any grade, through all the mysteries of wonderful creation, has monsters half so horrible and dread." ...

“They are Man's and they cling to me, appealing from their fathers. This boy is Ignorance and this girl is Want. Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the writing be erased.”


You can't escape the continuing search for knowledge, unless you'd prefer a world wide meltdown.
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Some folks just aren't strong enough to have faith. A shame really.
 
Bootlace said:
Some folks just aren't strong enough to have faith. A shame really.
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I don't usually get into this particular part of this particular issue, but this laughable. One does not need to be strong enough to have faith. In fact, I would argue it is the weaker who need faith. To face the unknown without the idea of some cosmic grandfather watching out for you requires a certain strength. Religion has been described as "The opium of the people", a very accurate description imo.

Certainly not saying all who have faith are weak. But those who are weak in this way are much more likely to have faith.

I'm with Frank on this one though. Anyone claiming to be a gnostic of either flavor is fudging it somewhere.
 
Bootlace said:
Evolution isn't going to evolve something that isn't necessary. We are far too complex on a biological level, not to mention an emotional level. A good example is love. Love isn't necessary for our survival. It also isn't necessary for us to find beauty in nature. Ever look close at a beautiful flower? Examine the intricate detail? Ever wonder why we love someone or think something is pretty? Not really necessary.
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love IS scientific and mathematical. As much as most would hate to admit it, love is based on chemical changes in the brain, any neurological doctor could tell you that. How to animals like dolphins procreate for enjoyment? Murphy's Law states that anything that can happen, will and does happen. We are a living example of a very long, complicated path towards our present evolutionary point in time. Nothing is too complex in the eyes of evolution. I am not disproving God, I am stating that whether God caused evolution or didn't, or whatever, we would have still ended up with feelings like love complexity.
 
There is your narrow scientific mind speaking right there. Tell me sir, science is based off of sound and proved principals. You say you must have evidence to say it is true. Then give some solid evidence of the Big Bang, or that the Aether exists, or what happened previous to the Big Bang. Scientists see faith as a weakness, yet, in the end, scientists rely on faith in science and reality itself.
 
Bootlace said:
Some folks just aren't strong enough to have faith. A shame really.
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:lamo :lamo :lamo


Incorrect. Some of us are strong enough to admit homo sapiens haven't learned everything, yet.

Others? Well, I think you're making my point with statements like those.
 
ethanhulse said:
There is your narrow scientific mind speaking right there. Tell me sir, science is based off of sound and proved principals. You say you must have evidence to say it is true. Then give some solid evidence of the Big Bang, or that the Aether exists, or what happened previous to the Big Bang. Scientists see faith as a weakness, yet, in the end, scientists rely on faith in science and reality itself.
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There speaks a person who, apparently, knows little about science. Scientists follow the facts and rationality, wherever they may lead. No faith required.


As for "faith" in "reality" - why don't you to tell us what you mean by "reality" before this discussion goes any farther?
 
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