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If sex is for procreation only, why did god make it feel so good and why did he make the process so damned inefficient?

You guys do know that sex and pain of child birth is actually a punishment for Eve eating the apple, don't you?

So if it is a punishment then why should it be for procreation only?

And he could have made it more efficient by have an equal number of female eggs for each sperm that a male produces, and would have a one hundred percent birth rate.

If sex was 100% effective we'd rarely have it and it wouldn't even feel good.

like horses and pigs.

And wow how freaking depressing. I like sex all good feeling and stuff. "Yes god punish me with another orgasm!" (please).
 
If sex was 100% effective we'd rarely have it and it wouldn't even feel good.

like horses and pigs.

And wow how freaking depressing. I like sex all good feeling and stuff. "Yes god punish me with another orgasm!" (please).

Yep, this is surely my favorite post in the whole thread!

Nope, better not say anymore than that....
 
And wow how freaking depressing. I like sex all good feeling and stuff. "Yes god punish me with another orgasm!" (please).

If God punishes anyone for sex then they're having the wrong kind of sex, and they did it to themselves.
 
If God punishes anyone for sex then they're having the wrong kind of sex, and they did it to themselves.
and at the same time he rewards the ophthalmics with more earnings, eh?:mrgreen:
 
If God punishes anyone for sex then they're having the wrong kind of sex, and they did it to themselves.

Wait, sorry, but what do you mean?

If you are pretty sure I don't want to know, that's okay too. You don't have to elaborate if you don't want to.
 
Wait, sorry, but what do you mean?

If you are pretty sure I don't want to know, that's okay too. You don't have to elaborate if you don't want to.

I think he's going with the one man, one woman, one way, for one reason and only in marriage concept here--like I said heaven must be one very boring place.
 
I think he's going with the one man, one woman, one way and only in marriage concept here--like I said heaven must be one very boring place.

Okay, I wasn't sure what the whole punishment and doing things wrong comment was. I see what you are saying, and now I get it. Thanks. Wasn't sure if it was that or something entirely different.

I can't let my imagination run away on these topics!
 
Wait, sorry, but what do you mean?

If you are pretty sure I don't want to know, that's okay too. You don't have to elaborate if you don't want to.

He has an obsession with gay sex. He talks about gay sex more than gays do.
 
so I will respond to the OP the best way possible.

1. If sex did not feel good and was not fun why would people do it? most people avoid things that hurt and are not enjoyable.
therefore God made sex to be enjoyable for both men and women. otherwise we would probably avoid it and the human race would have gone
extinct ages ago.

2. God set man apart from the animals. it is not uncommon for animals to mate with many different females. we are not animals. we are above the animals.
there are only very few animals species that take 1 mate only. if they did then their numbers would not survive the predators including man that eat them.
also it is proven that having a family unit is the best structure for raising kids.

3. The fall was due to disobedience to God. child birth probably became worse as pain and suffering had entered into the world.
before that no existence of pain was probably known.
 
There are no gods. Wake up.

Yes there.

People treat people like obama or Sean Connery as gods.

But unlike you, while I don't believe in the existence of supernatural, deities, i am not entirely closed off to the possibility. i just want much better proof than mere arguments or claims.

And I'd appreciate it if you would not impose your bellefs on to me, thanks.
 
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Yep, a lot of that sounds very familiar. Funny you mentioned that part about the church wanting the parents to bring up their kids as Catholics, because my dad wasn't a Catholic and had to have an interview with my mom's priest. My dad had to swear that he would allow any future kids to be brought up Catholic, and only then was he given the OK to marry my mom. Crazy. If he said "no" then they would not have been allowed to get married at all.

Well... at least not married in the Catholic church. My FIL had to go through the same nonsense when he married my MIL.
 
If sex is for procreation only, why did god make it feel so good and why did he make the process so damned inefficient?

You guys do know that sex and pain of child birth is actually a punishment for Eve eating the apple, don't you?

So if it is a punishment then why should it be for procreation only?

And he could have made it more efficient by have an equal number of female eggs for each sperm that a male produces, and would have a one hundred percent birth rate.

Scriptural sources?
 
If sex is for procreation only, why did god make it feel so good and why did he make the process so damned inefficient?

You guys do know that sex and pain of child birth is actually a punishment for Eve eating the apple, don't you?

So if it is a punishment then why should it be for procreation only?

And he could have made it more efficient by have an equal number of female eggs for each sperm that a male produces, and would have a one hundred percent birth rate.

If sex wasn't pleasurable there would be no children.
 
Well... at least not married in the Catholic church. My FIL had to go through the same nonsense when he married my MIL.

What's nonsensical about it? The point of marriage in the Catholic Church is to procreate and raise new children in the faith. Why would they have any reason to marry you if you're not going to do that? It would mean that you're going to raise the children as some kind of a heretic and that you yourself don't take the faith that seriously.
 
What's nonsensical about it? The point of marriage in the Catholic Church is to procreate and raise new children in the faith. Why would they have any reason to marry you if you're not going to do that? It would mean that you're going to raise the children as some kind of a heretic and that you yourself don't take the faith that seriously.

Let me rephrase, not nonsense from the church's POV. Nonsense in the overall scheme of things. The fact that my in-laws got married in a church is completely meaningless in the overall picture of their marriage. Granted it was important to my MIL's parents at the time so they did it. My FIL still never got any kind of acceptance from her parents, didn't matter in the long run though. My MIL dutifully raised all her kids Catholic though with varying degrees of success.
 
Let me rephrase, not nonsense from the church's POV. Nonsense in the overall scheme of things. The fact that my in-laws got married in a church is completely meaningless in the overall picture of their marriage. Granted it was important to my MIL's parents at the time so they did it. My FIL still never got any kind of acceptance from her parents, didn't matter in the long run though. My MIL dutifully raised all her kids Catholic though with varying degrees of success.

There are a lot of rules in Catholicism. But the community is strong and the educational tradition is unmatched.

The Anglicans in England have a strong tradition of free thinking education and that is the only world church with a similar education program.

Kids need rules and Catholicism has pretty good rules for them.

Even so there are good Catholic kids and bad Catholic kids.
 
If sex wasn't pleasurable there would be no children.

I don't agree. There would be a small amount of people who would be having sex out of a sense of duty to keep the human race going.
 
None that YOU know of at least.

And also only if you ignore the 4 philosophical proofs of god popular with San Tomas Aquinas.

lol... please, present them to the universe... please!
 
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