Re: The Bible is Completely Immoral
I am actually pretty happy that you responded to my post in detail. You are the first person to do this and despite our difference in opinion I admire that you are actually taking this on. In the past I have sometimes taken verses out of context but these examples come from a fair reading of the bible and looking at other biblical references. If you present a good argument that these verses were taken out of context, then I will remove them from my list.
Yep since marriage is supposed to be forever and is a covenant relationship. God doesn't believe in divorce.
I myself think that divorce is far too overused in our society. The problem I have with this verse is that adultery is the only exception. My mother was married to a man who was physically violent for 5 years despite the protestations of her family. She then married a man who was initially charming but after a year turned out to be emotionally and verbally abusive every day to both her and I. I am so happy to be out of that house. Believe me. I have seen with my own eyes why the bible can be so wrong about divorce.
what was happening is that the women in the congregation were causing a disruption in their behavior they were disturbing the other people around them with their antics. hence why they were told to be quiet.
First, it is unlikely that all women in the congregation were disruptive. And if they were, wouldn't it be better to just make a rule that people who are disruptive can't speak in church instead of being sexist?
I can also find no reference in the chapter that this rule came from women in Corinth being disruptive. It seems you came up with this on your own without consulting the bible. If you actually look at the verse it actually gives a defense of why it made that rule:
1 Corinthians 14
34. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home:
for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
The defense is not that Corinthian women are disruptive but that it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
yes the word submit here means to respect your husbands authority. in the following verse it says husbands love your wives even as Christ loved the church and laid down his life for her.
Isn't respecting your husband's authority the same thing as being submissive? If not then we really need to look at the definition of 'submissive' and see related biblical verses about this topic.
I come here to debate with people not hyperlinks. I deal with enough hyperlinks at work.
Second, an abortion really isn’t in view here. As I stated earlier, children were a blessing to Jewish women. A barren woman was seen as cursed. This curse was not meant to abort a child. Rather, it was meant to show guilt. A woman who had not committed adultery would gladly redeem herself by drinking the water. A woman who had committed adultery would not agree to drinking the water, and therefore guilt could be determined.
There is simply no strong argument that can be given to Biblically support abortion. Children are precious to God, and he would never be okay with taking the lives of innocent children because they’re in the way of something we want.
no women in her right mind would willingly abort her child.
First off, I don't believe in the bible so I really don't believe that drinking holy water is going to cause an abortion. But what matters is that the bible does. These verses definitely do talk about abortion. See the text in bold again:
Numbers 5
14
and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure—
15 then he is to take his wife to the priest....[The woman is made to drink some bitter water that brings a curse if she is unfaithful, and a sacrifice is made....]
27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and
her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse.
See what I said about hyperlinks. They are great for backing up your arguments. They are not so good for being your arguments.
as for revelation the wages of sin is death. they aren't thrown into hell for homosexuality they are thrown into hell for their sin just like anyone else that has
not accepted Christ as savior.
My question is, why is homosexuality wrong?