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    "ALL moral standards and values are man-made"

    That's what Hard Truth had claimed in another section.

    I'm saying, God is the basis for all morals - it's the standard from which moral values are based.


    I'd like to try to prove this. So I'd like for you to please answer this.


    If I shoot a pedestrian in the face with a shotgun.......is that good or bad?

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    Re: "ALL moral standards and values are man-made"

    Your question does not speak to the challenge on what is the source of moral values (or morality.)
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    Re: "ALL moral standards and values are man-made"

    Quote Originally Posted by orphanslug View Post
    your question does not speak to the challenge on what is the source of moral values (or morality.)
    Answer it!

    If you're confident in your claim, then I'm throwing the gauntlet right in your face(s). Are you evading the question?
    Put your money where your mouth is - unless you're just all big mouth and pure gas!

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    Re: "ALL moral standards and values are man-made"

    Quote Originally Posted by tosca1 View Post
    That's what Hard Truth had claimed in another section.

    I'm saying, God is the basis for all morals - it's the standard from which moral values are based.


    I'd like to try to prove this. So I'd like for you to please answer this.


    If I shoot a pedestrian in the face with a shotgun.......is that good or bad?
    That depends. Were you "standing your ground"?
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    Re: "ALL moral standards and values are man-made"

    Quote Originally Posted by tosca1 View Post
    answer it!
    Two problems. One, you are in the Philosophy Discussions section and my comment on the question still stands. It has nothing to do with source morality. Two, like all beliefs these things are culturally acquired. This implies that the cultural understanding has nothing to do with truth, therefor any one cultures take on this does not support moral relativism.

    In our culture the laws are fairly clear on this, shooting someone in the face with a shotgun is not legal and there is no side implication that it should be considered good. But the question is elementary school thinking on the idea of source morality. It does not have to be exclusively sourced from religion, it does not have to be exclusively sourced from law. However the culture in question will determine how much each are an influence into the standards of morality.
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    Re: "ALL moral standards and values are man-made"

    Quote Originally Posted by tosca1 View Post
    That's what Hard Truth had claimed in another section.

    I'm saying, God is the basis for all morals - it's the standard from which moral values are based.


    I'd like to try to prove this. So I'd like for you to please answer this.


    If I shoot a pedestrian in the face with a shotgun.......is that good or bad?
    Why did you shoot him in the face?
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    Re: "ALL moral standards and values are man-made"

    You don't understand the evolutionary importance and role empathy and morals so god did it...... How quaint

    The Evolution of Empathy | Greater Good

    Morality isn't man made as Humans aren't the only creatures to have a set of morals and empathy . It plays a role as it allows humans as pack animals to live together even in relative peace .Pack animals are more successful in passing down genetics and at getting nutrients from hunting or gathering as well protectioning and rearing the young. As well as detering predators and those who would take the land
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    Re: "ALL moral standards and values are man-made"

    "you're better off on Stormfront discussing how evil brown men are taking innocent white flowers." Infinite Chaos

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    Re: "ALL moral standards and values are man-made"

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    That depends. Were you "standing your ground"?

    No. It wasn't for self-defense or anything like that.

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    Re: "ALL moral standards and values are man-made"

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Two problems. One, you are in the Philosophy Discussions section and my comment on the question still stands. It has nothing to do with source morality. Two, like all beliefs these things are culturally acquired. This implies that the cultural understanding has nothing to do with truth, therefor any one cultures take on this does not support moral relativism.

    In our culture the laws are fairly clear on this, shooting someone in the face with a shotgun is not legal and there is no side implication that it should be considered good. But the question is elementary school thinking on the idea of source morality. It does not have to be exclusively sourced from religion, it does not have to be exclusively sourced from law. However the culture in question will determine how much each are an influence into the standards of morality.

    I'm not asking whther it's legal or not. I'm asking if it's good or bad (wrong or right).

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