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Why the Judeo-Christian God is, GOD

Originally Posted by lizzie View Post

God doesn't have specific people.
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We're not talking about specific people.
 
tosca1 said:
Why wouldn't I believe that?

Why would God issue that first Commandment?

What more, if God doesn't need us, and we need Him.......why wouldn't it be for glorification and worship?
The Bible is filled with that - about worship of God and glorifying Him.


Do you believe the Bible?
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Why would you believe that anything self-describing as the "I Am" or the "All", or omnipotent, only considers a small group of people as his, if God creates everything and everyone? Anything that is the source of everything has no needs. Do you not love all your children? Do your children exist only for your own adoration? If so, then your children are at a great disadvantage, as they have no parent who puts the child's needs ahead of that of their own.
 
lizzie said:
Why would you believe that anything self-describing as the "I Am" or the "All", or omnipotent, only considers a small group of people as his, if God creates everything and everyone?
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Why do you think that? That God considers only a small group of people as His?
 
lizzie said:
Do your children exist only for your own adoration? If so, then your children are at a great disadvantage, as they have no parent who puts the child's needs ahead of that of their own.
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Are you comparing us to God?

We may've been created in the likeness of God, and God may've described Himself as our Father -through Jesus Christ....but that doesn't make us equal to God.

God created everyone....but not everyone can claim Him as their Father. There is a qualifier: Jesus Christ.
But that would be straying from the topic since that's from the Christian belief.

In the Old Testament, God, referred to as Father is rare, and usually referred to as the father of Israel, or a Jew.

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We're talking about GOD -Creator of all things. And I'm claiming that He is the Judeo-Christian God.
 
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tosca1 said:
Why do you think that? That God considers only a small group of people as His?
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I don't. You seem to. You describe a specific subset of people as His. I personally believe that we are all His.
 
tosca1 said:
Are you comparing us to God?

We may've been created in the likeness of God....and God may've described Himself as Father -through Jesus Christ....but that doesn't make us equal to God.
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Yes, I am. If you consider us to be children of God, or products of his creation, then that would make God a parental figure. My own concept of God is as more of an aspect of it, than a child of it, and I never said or implied that anyone is equal. It was a simple analogy, that should make sense to you.
 
lizzie said:
I don't. You seem to. You describe a specific subset of people as His. I personally believe that we are all His.
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We are all His creation, therefore we are all His.
 
lizzie said:
Yes, I am. If you consider us to be children of God, or products of his creation, then that would make God a parental figure. My own concept of God is as more of an aspect of it, than a child of it, and I never said or implied that anyone is equal. It was a simple analogy, that should make sense to you.
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In your analogy, you talked about the child being at a disadvantaged.
If your analogy is carried that far, as to mirror parents/child on earth - logically, there has to be a Biblical or God mother too, no? The Trinity would've been God the Father, the Mother, and the Son, if we're meant to look at it strictly that way.
I don't think there's any mention of any mother in the Bible. Therefore, there's definitely a limit to that analogy.
 
lizzie said:
The there is only one God. Not a God specific to Christians and Jews.
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Yes there is only One God. And I'm saying He is who is known as the Judeo-Christian God.

He is the Creator of all things. And because He'd clearly mentioned all His attributes that we may have some understanding and knowledge of Him - we go by them.

He is not a creature with eight arms, or a tree.
And since He kept specifically stating that He is only One....therefore, He is not the god who reigns with other gods in Olympus.
 
tosca1 said:
Yes there is only One God. And I'm saying He is who is known as the Judeo-Christian God.

He is the Creator of all things. And because He'd clearly mentioned all His attributes that we may have some understanding and knowledge of Him - we go by them.

He is not a creature with eight arms, or a tree.
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What was he before Judaism evolved as a religion?
 
Kobie said:
Given how many utterly awful things I've seen attributed to God working in "mysterious ways," it doesn't seem like he's all that concerned with clarity.
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I've never understood why he likes giving children cancer.
 
Should't this persiflage be in the religion forum?
 
lizzie said:
What was he before Judaism evolved as a religion?
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He's God.

Mankind was hardwired to worship God - but, they end up worshipping others gods (making their idols, or worshipping nature etc.,)

Perhaps that's why God formally introduced Himself as Yahweh (there is no accurate pronunciation for His name), and had given us some knowledge about Him. Thus He explained about the Creation - and given us the history.
 
tosca1 said:
God, the Creator of all things...... is the Judeo-Christian God.
That's the claim of Christians and Jews. Understandably, those who don't believe would ask, why do you think it's the Judeo-Christian God?


My response is:


No other god qualifies.
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Wait... what exactly makes your god qualify where other gods fail???
 
Nilly said:
Wait... what exactly makes your god qualify where other gods fail???
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Finally!


As the Creator of all things, He is apart from the universe. He is not in it. He's outside time and space.
He transcends His creation.
 
tosca1 said:
He's God.

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Then there is no differentiation between one God or another. If there is only one, then The Judeo-Christian God is no different from any other. The fact that some don't understand it, doesn't change whatever the truth may be.
 
lizzie said:
Then there is no differentiation between one God or another. If there is only one, then The Judeo-Christian God is no different from any other. The fact that some don't understand it, doesn't change whatever the truth may be.
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Well there is a big difference if one is worshipping a tree or any other idol.

That's why God introduced Himself - I suppose to set the record straight? And thus gave His Commandment about worshipping other gods.
 
lizzie said:
The fact that some don't understand it, doesn't change whatever the truth may be.
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The commission for all Christians is to spread the news about Christ.

I don't know the fate of those whom are truly unaware about Him - those that never received the Gospel.
But we know that God is just, and merciful.
 
tosca1 said:
Well there is a big difference if one is worshipping a tree or any other idol.

That's why God introduced Himself - I suppose to set the record straight? And thus gave His Commandment about worshipping other gods.
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Are you implying that anyone before the time that Judaism became a formal religion, was ignorant and had no true concept of God? If there is only one, then whatever one's concept of God, IS God. THe Aboriginal tribesman's God is the same God as yours. You may not conceptualize it the same, but it is the same thing.
 
tosca1 said:
Finally!


As the Creator of all things, He is apart from the universe. He is not in it. He's outside time and space.
He transcends His creation.
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And why do other gods not fit this criteria? Plenty of other religions claim their god fits this criteria same as you do.
 
lizzie said:
Are you implying that anyone before the time that Judaism became a formal religion, was ignorant and had no true concept of God? If there is only one, then whatever one's concept of God, IS God. THe Aboriginal tribesman's God is the same God as yours. You may not conceptualize it the same, but it is the same thing.
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They have a concept of God, that's why they were worshipping - however, they were not directing their worship on the true God.
 
Nilly said:
And why do other gods not fit this criteria? Plenty of other religions claim their god fits this criteria same as you do.
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Name one.
 
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