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A True Christian View On Homosexuality

CLAX1911 said:
When it's all translated yeah, of course they are.

That isbecause you aren't a true believer and you know it. You lack faith, that is the real reason you bicker with me. You don't believe, that is why you ignorantly follow a book that clearly contradicts itself and why you refuse utterly to face those contradictions. Don't feel bad bud, most Christians just go through the motions, narrow is the path kiddo.
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Except it isn't translated, the septuagint is what Paul used, and Paul wrote in greek.

... Don't believe what? You haven't even told me what you believe and on what basis you believe it.

You can say "faith" all you want, but it's meaningless, unless faith has an Object.
 
RGacky3 said:
Except it isn't translated, the septuagint is what Paul used, and Paul wrote in greek.
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So it was never translated? Bull****.

... Don't believe what? You haven't even told me what you believe and on what basis you believe it.
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tough.

You can say "faith" all you want, but it's meaningless, unless faith has an Object.
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Nice opinion.
 
CLAX1911 said:
From any language to any other language.
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Ok dude, clearly you don't want to actually explain or give a defense of or even define any of Your positions ....

As always you don't even respect Your own positions, so don't expect anyone else to.
 
RGacky3 said:
Ok dude, clearly you don't want to actually explain or give a defense of or even define any of Your positions ....
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I don't have to defend it to you. I thought I made that clear.

As always you don't even respect Your own positions, so don't expect anyone else to.
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That's some hyperbole.
 
RGacky3 said:
Then tell me one contradiction ... show me
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There is no contradiction so great that creative denial can not overcome. Yet, tell me, how did Judas die?
 
Logicman said:
You trying to dredge up another one of your alleged, hair-brained 'contradictions'? Then read why it isn't.

How did Judas die, by hanging or falling down? | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry

Busted.
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Busted?? That is one of the strangest, incomprehensible excuses of trying to explain something away you can have. Like I said, there is no irrational and stupid the explanation is. That attempt at reconcilation does no such thing, since the scenario they propose is not physically possible,
 
RAMOSS said:
Busted?? That is one of the strangest, incomprehensible excuses of trying to explain something away you can have. Like I said, there is no irrational and stupid the explanation is. That attempt at reconcilation does no such thing, since the scenario they propose is not physically possible,
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That's wrong.

(1) Judas hangs himself, fulfilling Matthew 27:5
(2) The branch he hung himself on later breaks, and Jesus falls headlong, and bursts open, fulfilling Acts 1:18.

And that's impossible? Do you know how sophomoric your 'impossible' claim looks?
 
Logicman said:
That's wrong.

(1) Judas hangs himself, fulfilling Matthew 27:5
(2) The branch he hung himself on later breaks, and Jesus falls headlong, and bursts open, fulfilling Acts 1:18.

And that's impossible? Do you know how sophomoric your 'impossible' claim looks?
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If someone is hanged, then falling to the ground won't kill them.

If someone falls to the ground, then being hanged does not kill them.


One story does not mention hanging. The other does not mention falling down and bursting a gut. The two are mutually exclusive. Acts does not say that the branch broke. It says he fell down. There is no hanging mentioned.
 
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RAMOSS said:
If someone is hanged, then falling to the ground won't kill them.
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First if all, the verse in Acts doesn't say it killed him.

RAMOSS said:
If someone falls to the ground, then being hanged does not kill them.
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He could have hung there dead on that branch for days before the branch broke, or the rope broke. So your objections are without merit.

RAMOSS said:
Acts does not say that the branch broke. It says he fell down. There is no hanging mentioned.
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It doesn't have to say it. It's a plausible scenario. And a plausible scenario does not rise to the level of a contradiction.

Get a new dog.
 
Logicman said:
First if all, the verse in Acts doesn't say it killed him.



He could have hung there dead on that branch for days before the branch broke, or the rope broke. So your objections are without merit.



It doesn't have to say it. It's a plausible scenario. And a plausible scenario does not rise to the level of a contradiction.

Get a new dog.
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The only way it's plausible is if you totally ignore what is written.. and then ignore common sense, the way the world works when it comes to body decay, and make things up to grasps at straws.
 
RAMOSS said:
The only way it's plausible is if you totally ignore what is written.. and then ignore common sense, the way the world works when it comes to body decay, and make things up to grasps at straws.
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Nonsense. You've already been corrected on your claims in 3 previous posts.
 
RAMOSS said:
There is no contradiction so great that creative denial can not overcome. Yet, tell me, how did Judas die?
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I really don't know, but according to Matthew he hung himself, and according to acts he fell and his bowels fell out ... you coudl reconcile them and say he hung himself and then fell somehow ... but even if they dont' match up, I don't really see that as a contradiction theologically ... as I don't think how he actually died was the point of the story there as opposed to the theological Message.

A Field was probably purchased and Judas died there, perhaps by suicide ... chances are Matthew and Luke heard difference explinations and wrote them to make theological Points (as we can see clearly in Acts With scriptural illusion).
 
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