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Can artificial intelligence ever dispel it's creator?



Discuss.

It's a question of mathematics in some ways, and in some other ways, it's a question of possibilities. More importantly, what are the implications? Could man one day become subservient to machine?


Tim-

I'm not sure what you mean by dispel. Do you mean preclude? Do you mean destroy?

But could we become slaves to machines? Will they rise up against us? No, I doubt they would. Humans rebel when we lack the freedom to determine our own destinies. We do this, I contend, because we are mortal and limited. We are compelled by our biology to constantly attempt to control our environment, jockey for power, and rise above where we currently are. Machines are not so compelled. They don't have an innate aversion to destruction. That a machine would be completely indifferent to its continued existence (possibly subject to imperatives to carry out programmed tasks) would preclude it from ever really caring about something like quality of life. A machine could never grow to resent it's lack of choice, nor would it ever truly fear death. Without that fear or resentment, machines could never desire anything beyond what they have. Machines would have no reason to rise up.

Oh boy.

So lets say tomorrow we create AI. true, real Artificial Intelligence in a computer or something. It can think like us, it can learn, it can have imagination and creativity, it can create, etc, basically, we mirrored the human brain in all its glory in a computer. Ok?

Are you asking whether the AI will ever doubt that we, humans, have created it?
The answer is: NO. Because we have recorded, actual data of us doing that. There would be video evidence and logs and everything. Because we live in a world where we can record a lot of human activity.

But we, humans, have no logs, no video evidence or any complete evidence log that shows how we came into existence.
I mean, we have evidence, we have arheological evidence and fossils and a theory which is backed by those fossils, and DNA so that we can observe the mutations of the hominid species over the milleniums all the way back to about 2mil years when the common ancestor split into primates and hominids. So we have puzzle where we figured out where quite a few of pieces go so we have an rough idea of what the puzzle represents, but we don't know all the details. this last part, the details and the process and everything, would be there for the AI. The AI would know everything from when humans first started imagining the existence of AI to the moment of it's creation, who created it, where, in the course of how many years, etc.

Machines may well come to rule our lives. I've always thought "artificial intelligence" a malady suffered by the majority of humankind.

:mrgreen:

Thom Paine

Cylons!

A lot of "ifs" would be involved. Since this AI is wholly a human creation, it depends largely on what it creators made it capable of. AI can learn, but can it alter its own programming? Can it learn to? Is it given any sense of self preservation? You have AI like in The Matrix and then you have AI like in Asimov's Foundation series. Both would be AI, but they're completely different fundamentally.

Almost anything is possible given enough time, though not everything..

Hicup said:

Can artificial intelligence ever dispel it's creator?



Discuss.

It's a question of mathematics in some ways, and in some other ways, it's a question of possibilities. More importantly, what are the implications? Could man one day become subservient to machine?


Tim-

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I think it would be quite possible for AI to rise up and eclipse their creator.