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Money Or Love?

 
I'll take Love over Money every time. I've lived through hard times and prosperous times. When you don't have a pot to piss in you have a craving for steak. When you become prosperous hamburger tastes just fine. Without love, nothing is fulfilling.
 
Money. Having love does not help you find money, the reverse does. ;)
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Money. Having love does not help you find money, the reverse does. ;)
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Yeah money might find you "love" but it won't be the type that will be lasting, just a few feel good memories. The one who finds love without money tends to be the one who finds the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. And by some chance they do become prosperous, it makes the pot even sweeter.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
Not trusting anyone is a trust issue.
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It's an issue that I have only found a handful of people over the last 40 years to be worth even the smallest amount of Faith or Trust.

FreedomFromAll said:
Suicide over finacial losses is a cowards fairwell. It also shows that one has too much faith in money as the solution to lifes woes.
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So in a situation where I have no money, no job, and nothing left what would you suggest?... considering that taking ANY form of assistance from the Government is NOT an option in my mind. So far as I'm concerned it is more honorable to put oneself in the ground than to take from the taxpayers.

FreedomFromAll said:
Hmm I see your point, perhaps you shuold investigate that hallow point. But before you do that you should realize that no matter what you have been through someone else went through something worse and kept their head up and kept trying. Most likely they were abler to do that because of love of some sort (even if it is love for themself).
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Cry me a river. I couldn't care any less about what anyone else has gone through. That's not my problem to deal with.

FreedomFromAll said:
Throwing money at objects to subsitute love is going to end with that hollowpoint.
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Maybe, maybe not. It's worked fairly well so far.

FreedomFromAll said:
You sound a tad bit insecure and immature for being 40 something. Perhaps you should seek some help or get laid or something?
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The mental health community tells me there's nothing they can do for me and I get laid quite regularly, thank you very much.
 
Tigger said:
It's an issue that I have only found a handful of people over the last 40 years to be worth even the smallest amount of Faith or Trust.



So in a situation where I have no money, no job, and nothing left what would you suggest?... considering that taking ANY form of assistance from the Government is NOT an option in my mind. So far as I'm concerned it is more honorable to put oneself in the ground than to take from the taxpayers.



Cry me a river. I couldn't care any less about what anyone else has gone through. That's not my problem to deal with.



Maybe, maybe not. It's worked fairly well so far.



The mental health community tells me there's nothing they can do for me and I get laid quite regularly, thank you very much.
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You dont need government handouts to pull yourself up by the boot straps. Millions of Americans have done it with no help why cant you? I ended up homeless myself before out of my own stupidity. Did I give up? Did I take handouts? No instead I lived in a tent and worked my way up from there until today I am a home owner outright no loan to payback anymore and I am self employed. If you were in my shoes you would be in the ground right now, while I am enjoying life for what it is. It hasnt just fairly worked out for me I am ****ing loving it. And ig I ever end up on the streets I only see it as a challenge not something to kill myself over. I survived thyroid cancer why the **** would I even consider suicide?
 
So far the tally is eleven for money, eight for love and one abstention.....interesting.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
You dont need government handouts to pull yourself up by the boot straps. Millions of Americans have done it with no help why cant you? I ended up homeless myself before out of my own stupidity. Did I give up? Did I take handouts? No instead I lived in a tent and worked my way up from there until today I am a home owner outright no loan to payback anymore and I am self employed. If you were in my shoes you would be in the ground right now, while I am enjoying life for what it is. It hasnt just fairly worked out for me I am ****ing loving it. And ig I ever end up on the streets I only see it as a challenge not something to kill myself over. I survived thyroid cancer why the **** would I even consider suicide?
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You have very different views on and interests in life than I do, Freedom. I have no interest in trying to drag myself up by my boot straps. Good for you that you survived and have thrived. I don't have enough interest in life to have even tried. Hell, I'd have been dead 30 minutes after getting the cancer diagnosis.
 
Tigger said:
You have very different views on and interests in life than I do, Freedom. I have no interest in trying to drag myself up by my boot straps. Good for you that you survived and have thrived. I don't have enough interest in life to have even tried. Hell, I'd have been dead 30 minutes after getting the cancer diagnosis.
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Im just not the type that gives up. I have seen people give up and its pathetic.

 
FreedomFromAll said:
Im just not the type that gives up. I have seen people give up and its pathetic.
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It is what it is, Freedom. I gave up on my life a quarter century ago. I'm not going to sit here and make you listen to some sob story. I just realized it wasn't worth repeatedly trying to make things better only to get slapped in the face again by Life/Fate or whatever you want to call it. Repeatedly doing that fits the definition of Insanity (doing the same thing and expecting different results). Maybe other people have the patience and interest in doing something else or doing it a different way. That's good for them. They're not me and I'm not them. I'm simply marking time until this life is over. Nothing more.
 
Tigger said:
It is what it is, Freedom. I gave up on my life a quarter century ago. I'm not going to sit here and make you listen to some sob story. I just realized it wasn't worth repeatedly trying to make things better only to get slapped in the face again by Life/Fate or whatever you want to call it. Repeatedly doing that fits the definition of Insanity (doing the same thing and expecting different results). Maybe other people have the patience and interest in doing something else or doing it a different way. That's good for them. They're not me and I'm not them. I'm simply marking time until this life is over. Nothing more.
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Perhaps you were doing it wrong?


To each their own lives played out how each individual wants it to play out despite the interference.
 
I think I will just have to settle for both. :lol:
Money can't make you happy, and love can't pay the bills.
 
lizzie said:
I think I will just have to settle for both. :lol:
Money can't make you happy, and love can't pay the bills.
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But that's cheating! :lol: you have to choose one or the other. So which is it? Nevermind, I'm pretty sure I know the answer. :)
 
vesper said:
But that's cheating! :lol: you have to choose one or the other. So which is it? Nevermind, I'm pretty sure I know the answer. :)
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If I really really really had to choose, it would be love. Money is great, and you can have a lot of fun with it, but it doesn't keep you warm at night, and it doesn't make life meaningful, and it doesn't care about you one bit.
 
Love. No question.

I've had both in abundance. I've also been about as broke as it's possible to be. Money is nothing but a convenience. Money by itself cannot make a good life. Those of you who are limiting love to romance are missing what love is. Love is not butterflies -- either above or below the belt.

Money will never do anything incredible or worthy of art. It will just sit there, until you turn it into an object, which will also just sit there. Many of those objects are great things to have that make life easier and more comfortable. But a hard life can be a profoundly wise and purposeful one, if you have wealth of other sorts. Apart from perhaps lengthening the lifespan of my ticker, I don't see any reason a convenient life is inherently better. In fact, I think you have to work a lot harder at actually learning anything of value when life is convenient. If you're judging life based on money alone, you're just judging it on different types of misery: the slow grinding of a convenient but empty life, or the crescendos of a hard and empty life.

Love is a cause of inspiration, selflessness, hard work for worthy goals, and virtually all truly good things in this world, when it is properly spent. A lot of people spend it stupidly, and a lot of people don't even know what it is, but that doesn't change its nature or potential.
 
Particularly with being long term unemployed and essentially homeless, I should pick money... but I have been offered that option twice since I've fallen from upper-middle class and both times I said no. Also in college I had an offer from the son of very wealthy east Texas rancher and said no. I really need to change my values, huh?
 
Summerwind said:
Particularly with being long term unemployed and essentially homeless, I should pick money... but I have been offered that option twice since I've fallen from upper-middle class and both times I said no. Also in college I had an offer from the son of very wealthy east Texas rancher and said no. I really need to change my values, huh?
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Meh. I don't think so. I've turned down 50k flat. I was broke at the time. There were too many strings on it that meant I didn't get to be who I want to be. No regrets. I fared just fine, both financially and otherwise. I don't need anyone's manipulation money.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Meh. I don't think so. I've turned down 50k flat. I was broke at the time. There were too many strings on it that meant I didn't get to be who I want to be. No regrets. I fared just fine, both financially and otherwise. I don't need anyone's manipulation money.
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Apparently I agree since that's what I do, though I have to say, most of those that are helping me survive this long-term downturn get quite annoyed with me that I can't just ... disregard myself better.

The last bit in the post you responded to was intended to be a bit of a snark.
 
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So, money. :lol:
 
rhinefire said:
Don't dribble on with "If this or if that". Simply think about the question then answer with either "money" or "love".
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Love, of course...Money without love--personal and universal--is unfulfilling... It can make you comfortable, but not happy...
 
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