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do you think you are on god's ignore list ?

do you think you are on god's ignore list ?

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Medusa said:
you believe in god by heart but you also think he ignores you whatever you try to be a kind person ? do you think we should be more grateful to him if we want to reach the serenity we need in life ? from a religious perspective ?
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I do believe that there is a God, so my perspective may be a religious one. But its certainly not of popular belief. I dont personally believe in the whole reward system that a lot of people tie into religion. The whole, God helped me because I believe, or God should have stopped this or that doesnt make much sense. God is not a genie there to grant wishes. prayer should not be a begging session. If a person does a good deed under the belief that God is going to reward me, they did it for their own selfish reasons, and not the goodness of their heart. Which is not something that really needs to be rewarded. many people think that if they pray and ask for something and then do something nice that God has some kind of obligation to give them what they asked for. I do believe that God not giving into those types of demands is not the same thing as ignoring.
 
If you're being kind only to please God, then it's an act of selfishness. Empathy towards others should be genuine and have no agenda. Expecting immediate rewards for good deeds would prevent a persons developement towards unconditional love, which expects nothing in return. Example:

You give a family member, friend or loved one a gift, not because you want them to like you, but, because you wish to make them happy. Seeing the smile on their face is the reward you seek.
 
I dont know. And personally right now i dont care. Not very religious. Consider myself a christian deist, and personally not very religious at all right now.
 
We're not on God's 'Ignore List.'

I know of two instances - one where it was divinely revealed to myself and another time to my nephew that God was watching. My nephew revealed his experience to me some time later. His unfaithful wife was leaving him and he was pleading with her in the kitchen to stay. At that moment he heard an audible voice inside his head, like telepathy, but audible, that said, "Let her go." He told me he was so spooked he almost ran out the back door in fear. Years later he remarried to a wonderful girl and is now very happy.

I had a similar experience in a different situation and know the voice he heard. The person three feet next to me didn't hear it. But it was clear as a bell to me.

God, and/or his angels, are watching. It's a very sobering realization.

My nephew and I know God is real. There's absolutely no question in our minds.
 
serato said:
If you're being kind only to please God, then it's an act of selfishness. Empathy towards others should be genuine and have no agenda. Expecting immediate rewards for good deeds would prevent a persons developement towards unconditional love, which expects nothing in return. Example:

You give a family member, friend or loved one a gift, not because you want them to like you, but, because you wish to make them happy. Seeing the smile on their face is the reward you seek.
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l dont think a person should try to make someone like him and cant get why you made this comment

l am not a very religious person and more like a deistic muslim.so what l care about is not making god happy but making the others happy.l believe in god because l feel him ,not because l fear him.l would keep making them happy whether l believed in god or not .
 
Definitely. If there is a god out there, it doesn't give a **** about me.
 
All reality is based on matter, including the human brain which is itself a result of the organization of matter in a particular way. The fiction that is God is ignoring everyone right now.
 
Synergy said:
All reality is based on matter, including the human brain which is itself a result of the organization of matter in a particular way. The fiction that is God is ignoring everyone right now.
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I think E=MC2 says reality is based on energy.
 
Actually relativity shows that matter and energy (including the spatially distributed energy of fields) are interchangeable. This enables the ontological view that energy is prima materia and matter is one of its forms.

Think of matter as a very good form of storing energy.

My statement holds.
 
Synergy said:
Actually relativity shows that matter and energy (including the spatially distributed energy of fields) are interchangeable. This enables the ontological view that energy is prima materia and matter is one of its forms.

Think of matter as a very good form of storing energy.

My statement holds.
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The universe began from energy and since matter is a form of energy it is ALL still about the energy. Besides we're both trying to quantify an unknown, since 96% of the universe is made up of an unseen dark energy and matter. Your statement holds an invisible rail. ;)
 
grip said:
The universe began from energy and since matter is a form of energy it is ALL still about the energy. Besides we're both trying to quantify an unknown, since 96% of the universe is made up of an unseen dark energy and matter. Your statement holds an invisible rail. ;)
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Haha, yes. Fair enough. But I'm arguing for materialism as a philosophical position.

Let me reclarify ;): All emergent phenomena (including consciousness) are the result of material properties and interactions. There's no external 'realm' or ideal spirit or some unifying consciousness. So yes God is ignoring you.
 
Synergy said:
Haha, yes. Fair enough. But I'm arguing for materialism as a philosophical position.

Let me reclarify ;): All emergent phenomena (including consciousness) are the result of material properties and interactions. There's no external 'realm' or ideal spirit or some unifying consciousness. So yes God is ignoring you.
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I agree that a personal God is for the most part ignoring, common communication or verbal/mental dialogue. Whether a supreme force or consciousness exists is still an unprovable unknown as much as what makes up the universe.
 
I never see a god, not that there is one, as a monitor. I have tried to live my life as a descent person. I made many mistakes in my youth but who has not. Treat others with respect, decency and kindness and that's about all you can do. If god watches fine, if not so be it.
 
Medusa said:
l dont think a person should try to make someone like him and cant get why you made .
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You must have misunderstood because what you're accusing me of saying is not what was said.
 
If a god is all seeing then it would be impossible for it to ignore anything. But I think this query is more akin to asking if gods are active or inactive. The answer though should be self evident since no gods have done anything as shown by the huge lack of evidence. Of course people will try and assert that gods have done things before, but they still are unable to provide any real evidence for such actions. As always when it comes to any question about any god, that everything points towards the ability to have faith in something completely absent from our perceptions.
 
serato said:
You must have misunderstood because what you're accusing me of saying is not what was said.
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what you posted as answer to this thread was irrelevant
 
If God has to make lists he or she must be stupid.
 
serato said:
Get a translater if you're having issues.
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you may get!


serato said:
If you're being kind only to please God, then it's an act of selfishness. Empathy towards others should be genuine and have no agenda. Expecting immediate rewards for good deeds would prevent a persons developement towards unconditional love, which expects nothing in return. Example:

You give a family member, friend or loved one a gift, not because you want them to like you, but, because you wish to make them happy. Seeing the smile on their face is the reward you seek.
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it is your post! you made such a post that implies one wants to be kind only to make god happy and l felt l was accused of doing it because l started this thread
did l ever say l just want to please god?

maybe you should improve your english :mrgreen:
 
Medusa said:
l dont think a person should try to make someone like him and cant get why you made this comment

l am not a very religious person and more like a deistic muslim.so what l care about is not making god happy but making the others happy.l believe in god because l feel him ,not because l fear him.l would keep making them happy whether l believed in god or not .
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Grrr, you're going to hate me, but...are we not saying the same thing?
 
Medusa said:
you believe in god by heart but you also think he ignores you whatever you try to be a kind person ? do you think we should be more grateful to him if we want to reach the serenity we need in life ? from a religious perspective ?
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Nobody is on God's ignore list. He sees everything, which is actually a little scary if you ask me.

I think what you're asking has to do with experiencing God's presence in a tangible sense. Its an amazing thing to have communion with God. If you've never experienced it, you don't know what you're missing. Just a few points:

- Our sin separates us from God however thanks to Jesus' sacrificial punishment in our place, faith in Jesus constitutes full forgiveness before God. As righteous as Jesus is, God considers those with faith in him just as righteous.

- So you believe in Jesus but you still feel alienated from God. There are passages in the Bible that give us insight on how to better experience God in that condition.
1. God inhabits the praises of Israel. This specifically applies to Israel but most Christian believe it applies to anyone who praises God.
2. Draw close to God and he'll draw close to you.
3. Pray for extended periods of time. In the Bible when people prayed like that, powerful things would happen. Daniel prayed for 3 weeks once and an angel showed up with a message from God.
4. Read the Bible. Jesus said my sheep know my voice and another they will not follow. You familiarize yourself with God's voice by getting to know his word.
5. Try not to be unkind to other people, especially your spouse.
 
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