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Was FDR a religious man?

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Many progressives and atheist and progressive atheist really love Franklin D. Roosevelt. The new deal 3 + term president who put Americans to work for the government in the CCC, NRA (National Recovery Act), WPA, and the NYA etc. Other legislation passed was Agricultural Adjustment Act the National Housing Act, Federal Securities Act, and the Social Security Act. He was a liberals dream president expanding government like none of his predecessors. A socialist by any standard. But was he a religious man? Here is something I found that should shed some light on FDR's religious convictions.

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Which President hasn't been in terms of public declaration? Not exactly a startling discovery.
 
SgtRock said:
Many progressives and atheist and progressive atheist really love Franklin D. Roosevelt. The new deal 3 + term president who put Americans to work for the government in the CCC, NRA (National Recovery Act), WPA, and the NYA etc. Other legislation passed was Agricultural Adjustment Act the National Housing Act, Federal Securities Act, and the Social Security Act. He was a liberals dream president expanding government like none of his predecessors. A socialist by any standard. But was he a religious man? Here is something I found that should shed some light on FDR's religious convictions.

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A very interesting document. I wonder what would happen if a president today sent the same letter out to all the troops? I think he probably would be castrated.
 
Perotista said:
A very interesting document. I wonder what would happen if a president today sent the same letter out to all the troops? I think he probably would be castrated.
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Too many characters. He is so busy playing golf, I mean fixing the economy and creating jobs that he even has to delegate his 140 character tweets
 
Perotista said:
A very interesting document. I wonder what would happen if a president today sent the same letter out to all the troops? I think he probably would be castrated.
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I don't think a president in these politically correct times would have the conviction of faith to send a letter as powerful as this to our troops today.
 
SgtRock said:
I don't think a president in these politically correct times would have the conviction of faith to send a letter as powerful as this to our troops today.
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I think you are right.
 
SgtRock said:
I don't think a president in these politically correct times would have the conviction of faith to send a letter as powerful as this to our troops today.
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How would you feel if the president made the same proclamation, except it was about the glory of the Quran instead? If it doesn't inspire you, consider what FDR's message would have been like to non-christian troops.
 
rathi said:
How would you feel if the president made the same proclamation, except it was about the glory of the Quran instead? If it doesn't inspire you, consider what FDR's message would have been like to non-christian troops.
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GEEEEZZZZ. Those who were good christians probably took it to heart, those who weren't, shrugged their shoulders and continued on with what they were doing. One has to remember the context of the time FDR wrote this and passed it on to the military. It was an entirely different world back then, not that I was there personally, but back during this time the United States could definitely be classified as a Christian Nation.
 
rathi said:
How would you feel if the president made the same proclamation, except it was about the glory of the Quran instead? If it doesn't inspire you, consider what FDR's message would have been like to non-christian troops.
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I personally do not equate Islam with Christianity. I believe Islam is a death cult and the Qur'an is out right evil, just sayin.
 
Perotista said:
GEEEEZZZZ. Those who were good christians probably took it to heart, those who weren't, shrugged their shoulders and continued on with what they were doing. One has to remember the context of the time FDR wrote this and passed it on to the military. It was an entirely different world back then, not that I was there personally, but back during this time the United States could definitely be classified as a Christian Nation.
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I'm sure the 500 thousand Jews serving in the United State military to save their comrades from extermination would be thrilled to know that they don't count because the U.S. was a Christian nation at the time. I take it you also the U.S. was also a "white nation" at the time because they got special privileges based on their majority status?
 
SgtRock said:
I personally do not equate Islam with Christianity. I believe Islam is a death cult and the Qur'an is out right evil, just sayin.
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So you think that the Muslim soldiers serving honorably in the U.S. military today should be treated differently because you don't like their religion? Its okay for the president to say nice things about your religion, but not theirs?
 
rathi said:
I'm sure the 500 thousand Jews serving in the United State military to save their comrades from extermination would be thrilled to know that they don't count because the U.S. was a Christian nation at the time. I take it you also the U.S. was also a "white nation" at the time because they got special privileges based on their majority status?
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So you think FDR was a bigoted white man for sending that letter to the troops. Sheeeezzz.
 
SgtRock said:
Many progressives and atheist and progressive atheist really love Franklin D. Roosevelt.
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I pretty much hate Franklin D. Roosevelt, but what's your point? The anti-Progressive, liberal (in the original sense) flank of the Republican party was the refuge of atheists in those days. While the American Left was comfortably in bed with religious statists. William Jennings Bryan was the prosecutor, not the defender, at the Monkey Trail...

Time flows, things change. (Perhaps now they are changing again - with the push underway to return the GOP to its roots and core values it had abandoned to chase the Southern Dem vote...)
 
rathi said:
So you think that the Muslim soldiers serving honorably in the U.S. military today should be treated differently because you don't like their religion? Its okay for the president to say nice things about your religion, but not theirs?
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No they should not be treated differently. They should convert and denounce Islam. But I don't think they should be killed for doing so nor do I believe that non believers in Judaism or Christianity should be forcibly converted, subjugated or killed as many muslims believe about infidels. That is one of the differences between the three major religions. And one of the reasons I believe Islam is an evil death cult.
 
SgtRock said:
No they should not be treated differently. They should convert and denounce Islam. But I don't think they should be killed for doing so nor do I believe that non believers in Judaism or Christianity should be forcibly converted, subjugated or killed as many muslims believe about infidels. That is one of the differences between the three major religions. And one of the reasons I believe Islam is an evil death cult.
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You realize that a vast majority of muslims are law abiding citizens, right?
 
afr0byte said:
You realize that a vast majority of muslims are law abiding citizens, right?
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Yes they are and when they become the majority we will all be sharia law abiding. They are very patient and as bin Laden said Islam will rule the world even if it takes 10,000 years. So my advice is dig in for the long fight.
 
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SgtRock said:
Yes they are and when they become the majority we will all be sharia law abiding or we will die.
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Hah, can you tell me the lotto numbers too? You can't possibly know that.
 
But this thread is not about Islam, it is about FDR and his religious convictions.
 
SgtRock said:
But this thread is not about Islam, it is about FDR and his religious convictions.
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Fair enough. My responses to FDR's religious convictions: we all have our flaws.
 
Herbert Hoover was also a Progressive, as were other conservatives. Some people don't really understand the Progressive Era or how it differs from earlier social memes, including some who label themselves Progressives these days. They weren't some Comintern Cadre dedicated to a single ideology.
 
Was FDR a religious man?

It does not matter. He was a president not a religious leader.
It is a secular job.
 
Perotista said:
So you think FDR was a bigoted white man for sending that letter to the troops. Sheeeezzz.
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Here are some selected quotes from FDR on how he felt about Jews.

“Leo,you know this is a Protestant country,and the Catholics and Jews are here on sufferance.”

"You and I Burt are old English and Dutch stock. We know who our ancestors are. We know there is no Jewish blood in our veins, but a lot of these people do not know whether there is Jewish blood in their veins or not.”


"[t]he number of Jews engaged in the practice of the professions (law, medicine, etc.) should be definitely limited to the percentage that the Jewish population in North Africa bears to the whole of the North African population.... [T]his plan would further eliminate the specific and understandable complaints which the Germans bore towards the Jews in Germany, namely, that while they represented a small part of the population, over 50 percent of the lawyers, doctors, schoolteachers, college professors, etc., in Germany were Jews"

So yes, its very reasonable to question FDR's motives in that speech.
 
rathi said:
Here are some selected quotes from FDR on how he felt about Jews.

“Leo,you know this is a Protestant country,and the Catholics and Jews are here on sufferance.”

"You and I Burt are old English and Dutch stock. We know who our ancestors are. We know there is no Jewish blood in our veins, but a lot of these people do not know whether there is Jewish blood in their veins or not.”


"[t]he number of Jews engaged in the practice of the professions (law, medicine, etc.) should be definitely limited to the percentage that the Jewish population in North Africa bears to the whole of the North African population.... [T]his plan would further eliminate the specific and understandable complaints which the Germans bore towards the Jews in Germany, namely, that while they represented a small part of the population, over 50 percent of the lawyers, doctors, schoolteachers, college professors, etc., in Germany were Jews"

So yes, its very reasonable to question FDR's motives in that speech.
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Have at it, I will take it at face value.
 
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