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Atheists around world suffer persecution, discrimination: report

joko104 said:
Abraham Lincoln was not an atheist.


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Nor was Einstein, who was agnostic. Lincoln likely a Unitarian as were many of the "founding fathers." The Unitarian Church used to be quite large in the USA among leaders and academics.

Atheists tend to claim that agnostics and Unitarians are atheists to try to increase their numbers.
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Einstein may have called himself 'agnostic but a letter he wrote in 1954 doesn't have very nice words for those who believe in some type of deity
In the letter, according to the A.P. account, he wrote that “the word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.”

As for his fellow Jews, he said that Judaism, like all other religions, was “an incarnation of the most childish superstitions.”

He claimed a deep affinity with the Jewish people, he said, but “as far as my experience goes they are also no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything ‘chosen’ about them.”
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and for those who think gold is a good investment, it would appear that a handwritten letter by a famous physicist is even better - in May 2008, the letter quoted sold for $400,000, this past October it was sold again for $3,000,000 - now that's a nice return on an investment
 
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joko104 said:
Abraham Lincoln was not an atheist.


"I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how a man could look up into the heavens and say there is no God."

"I know that the Lord is always on the side of the right. But it is my constant anxiety and prayer that I and this nation should be on the Lord's side." (When speaking to a Union minister who had hoped the Lord was on the side of the Union.

"With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us finish the work we are in."

"We have forgotten the gracious hand which has preserved us in peace and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us, and have vainly imagined in the deceitfulness of our hearts that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving Grace, too proud to pray to the God that made us."

"Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves, and, under a just God, cannot long retain it."

Nor was Einstein, who was agnostic. Lincoln likely a Unitarian as were many of the "founding fathers." The Unitarian Church used to be quite large in the USA among leaders and academics.

Atheists tend to claim that agnostics and Unitarians are atheists to try to increase their numbers.
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Lincoln was an atheist. Some of the things in public are radically different than what he said privately. He told people privately he was an atheist. Remember the US wasn't very different back then. If you said you were anything except christian you wouldn't get elected. Isn't it odd the pro slavery folks were mostly Christians and the great emancipator was an atheist. Also most of our founders were deists and atheists. Ben Franklin was an atheist.
 
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