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Explain the weirdest political ideologies you have encountered so far!

Thrilla said:
historical precedent called... he thinks you are making things up.
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I'm not.

The Republican sewer scum wanted to vote in a Constitutional Amendment to ban people born in the US from being citizens, only a few months ago.

That's the bad thing.

The good thing is that after this election, with 70+% of Hispanic voters going to Obama, the Repub racist trash is now calling for a general amnesty! LOL!

Go on, rely on old white men for your votes, you imbeciles! :)
 
Paralogic said:
I'm not.

The Republican sewer scum wanted to vote in a Constitutional Amendment to ban people born in the US from being citizens, only a few months ago.

That's the bad thing.

The good thing is that after this election, with 70+% of Hispanic voters going to Obama, the Repub racist trash is now calling for a general amnesty! LOL!

Go on, rely on old white men for your votes, you imbeciles! :)
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Race Baiting called... he likes your style.
 
Thrilla said:
you don't know what race baiting is?
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what's funny here is he ignored your recent factual example of the ww2 japanese internment, which is within living memory, aka grandpa.
 
roflpublican said:
classic liberal argument against the 2nd amendment
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Indeed. Anyone who claims to be anti-gun and pro-freedom is a colossal idiot.

It's not necessarily weird, though. You can easily see why people don't want guns, in any case...if you can accept the fact they don't actually think about it.



On weird and obscure political ideologies, I never really understood what a "technocracy" would inhibit in practice.
 
gavinfielder said:
Indeed. Anyone who claims to be anti-gun and pro-freedom is a colossal idiot.

It's not necessarily weird, though. You can easily see why people don't want guns, in any case...if you can accept the fact they don't actually think about it.



On weird and obscure political ideologies, I never really understood what a "technocracy" would inhibit in practice.
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i think the primary danger with technocracy is that the 2nd and subsequent generations of the highly qualified initial technocrats would becoming increasingly lesser leaders, if for no other reason than the progressive corruption that is inherent in any power structure.
 
Paralogic said:
You can laugh, but that much is true in all the rest of the world. Look up gun violence statistics for the past 100 years in the US vs the rest of the world.

Unless you think there is something in the water in the US that makes people more violent, you'll have to agree with that "classic liberal argument".[/QUO

the problem that when the gunnies look if they look all they will see is what they want to see. But since it would poss a threat to thier delusion they will not look just shoot insults or demeaning comments at you.
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roflpublican said:
i've seen those statistics, and i pity those poor disarmed souls, because when another hitler comes along they'll be left helpless. if a higher murder rate is the price we pay for our liberty, i'll be happy to be one of those statistics.

step 1) criminals obey the law

that's where liberals get it wrong. criminals don't care about the law, they never have, and they never will. no set of statistics will ever show otherwise.
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I rest my case
 
Goshin said:
Actually there are dozens of nations around the world with stricter gun laws than the US, but far higher murder rates. Honduras, for example, has a murder rate more than 20 times higher than the USA.
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Again I rest my case
 
wolfman24 said:
Again I rest my case
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How lovely for you. It must be nice to simply decide in your own mind that you've won whatever point it is you think you are making. :wassat1:
 
wolfman24 said:
the problem that when the gunnies look if they look all they will see is what they want to see. But since it would poss a threat to thier delusion they will not look just shoot insults or demeaning comments at you.
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So what's your main point here? Allowing guns in a society will mean that there will be a certain amount of gun crime? Duh. Also gravity is an attractive force between massive objects, I mean if we're stating the obvious here.
 
Goshin said:
How lovely for you. It must be nice to simply decide in your own mind that you've won whatever point it is you think you are making. :wassat1:
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Cheap shot. I rest my case because the way the gunnies present arguments is contrary to facts. Fail
 
wolfman24 said:
Cheap shot. I rest my case because the way the gunnies present arguments is contrary to facts. Fail
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I've posted tons of facts on this very subject, sir. I have posted pages and pages of statistics and studies and reports on DP on this subject, including several today in another thread. I have yet to see you post any facts on this matter.

Contrary to what you may think, everyone isn't reading your every word... I'm not sure I entirely get what point you were even proclaiming to have made, when you threw your little one-liner at something I posted as proclaimed "QED!" :roll:

If you'd like to trade actual facts and figures on this issue, I am up for it any time... because I know they are in my favor.
 
wolfman24 said:
Paralogic said:
You can laugh, but that much is true in all the rest of the world. Look up gun violence statistics for the past 100 years in the US vs the rest of the world.

Unless you think there is something in the water in the US that makes people more violent, you'll have to agree with that "classic liberal argument".[/QUO

the problem that when the gunnies look if they look all they will see is what they want to see. But since it would poss a threat to thier delusion they will not look just shoot insults or demeaning comments at you.
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I suppose this is the point you thought you were making? And then you have the nerve to talk about "gunnies"... quite amusing. :roll:

Want some facts? Here you go...


As I've said, from my studies it appears that all nations and/or localities with a high murder rate have some or all of the following:

Bad government
Poverty
Drug trade
Gangs or other violent factions
Excessive population density

Put a high level on three or four of those, and you have lots of murders and violent crimes.

There's simply no logic in focusing on the tool used for violence when it is so obvious that this is not the causal factor.




I will list the top nations in order of rates of intentional homicide, also showing their rates of private gun ownership, then show the USA by contrast.

Name.... homicide rate per 100,000.... gun ownership rate per 100.

Honduras... 91.6... 6.2
El Salvador... 69.2 ... 5.8
Cote d'Ivoire... 56.9 ... not listed
Jamaica... 52.2 ... 8.1
Venezuela ... 45.1 ... 10.7
Belize ... 41.1 ... 10
Virgin Islands ... 39.2 ... not listed
Guatemala ... 38.5 ... 13.1
skipping down a bit...
Columbia ... 33.4 ... 5.9
South Africa... 31.8 ... 12.7
skipping down some more...
Greenland ... 19.2 ... not listed
Russia ... 10.2 ... 8.9
skipping down some more...
Ukraine.... 5.2 ... 6.6
Cuba... 5.0 ... 4.8

And finally, well over halfway down the list...

USA... 4.2 ... 88.8


Number of guns per capita by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


As it turns out, the United States does not have that high of a homicide rate compared to most other countries, and given the amount of privately owned arms we are FAR more peaceable than most on a per-gun-owned basis.

OBVIOUSLY, gun ownership is NOT directly linked to murder rates.
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Anarchism, it's something I've never been able to take seriously even after serious conversations with supposed "anarchists" that I'm acquainted with.
 
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