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Is the Universe God?

I believe something had to have been created at some point. I'm not talking the planet Earth, but the universe itself. After all, we have energy right?

There is a law that states, energy is neither created nor destroyed, but it is changing form. Then how is there energy in the first place? I'm not a physicist by any of the stretch of the imagination, but I think the long travel of energy in this universe started with The Big Bang. And the natural flow of energy is transferring from one system to another, transferring energy and creating more disorder.

That energy came from the birth of the Universe, the explosion from that infinitesimal singularity, and thus, matter was created.

Therefore I am a deist. I think that is the term. I believe in a God, but he essentially pressed the on switch, and let the system of the Universe to play itself out. In my view, he is able to alter the universe, but it isn't direct. It is indirect.

That's what I believe :lol: .
 
Only if you redefine the definitiong of God to the point to where its meaningless. God has traditionally ment a transendant agent, i.e. it must have agency.
 
DashingAmerican said:
Most Christians believe that God created the planets and the stars and all the space between. According to the big bang theory or even the bouncing theory the universe and all the planets were created by vast amounts of condensed matter expanding at an astronomical rate.

Apparently the belief that the Universe and God are one in the same is called Pantheism.
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Well, that's the popularly accepted view on it. It was originally associated with Spinoza's god, though the term came many years after Spinoza's death, and is accepted as either/or, with any number of personal philosophical attributes added by each individual person who follows this train of thought. It's basically a useless word that describes nothing in particular. Not sure why you feel the need to bring Christianity into it, since they aren't compatible with each other.
 
DashingAmerican said:
Most Christians believe that God created the planets and the stars and all the space between. According to the big bang theory or even the bouncing theory the universe and all the planets were created by vast amounts of condensed matter expanding at an astronomical rate.
Apparently the belief that the Universe and God are one in the same is called Pantheism.
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If you consider God in the traditional Judeo-Christian sense, then no.
-God exhibits the ability to determine the value of something and then act according to that judgement.
-The universe is ruled by the laws of physics, with every single event - at least until the questionable advent of free will - predetermined at the moment of the big bang.
If everything is predetermined, then there can be no action based on judgement.
 
I consider god to be that beyond our control and even perception. The collective sub/conscious of all entities animate and otherwise.
 
sookster said:
I believe something had to have been created at some point. I'm not talking the planet Earth, but the universe itself. After all, we have energy right?

There is a law that states, energy is neither created nor destroyed, but it is changing form. Then how is there energy in the first place? I'm not a physicist by any of the stretch of the imagination, but I think the long travel of energy in this universe started with The Big Bang. And the natural flow of energy is transferring from one system to another, transferring energy and creating more disorder.

That energy came from the birth of the Universe, the explosion from that infinitesimal singularity, and thus, matter was created.

Therefore I am a deist. I think that is the term. I believe in a God, but he essentially pressed the on switch, and let the system of the Universe to play itself out. In my view, he is able to alter the universe, but it isn't direct. It is indirect.

That's what I believe :lol: .
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Like the Black Hole, the singularity is an impossible concentration of matter. Physicists trying to make us accept such nonsense are no better than the theologians they feel so superior to.

A true rationalist would have to conclude that the explosion was an eruption from an underlying universe. All is lava.
 
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