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Do Atheists Have Ceremonies?

Anrch-Cptlst said:
Well you know us atheist like to sacrafice a lamb on Sundays, before the game. Pray to satan, since, you know if we don't believe in god we must worship satan. Also on Xmas we burn down orphanages. You know the usual.
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Another bid for the Victim card?
 
Manc Skipper said:
I was just pointing to a piece of discrimination which defenders of the faiths tend to deny happens.
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Do I have to say this again?

I am not a christian. I don't belong to any sect. If it were up to me, you'd get Arbor Day off and we'd all have to work on Xmas.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
Im sure I have just as much in common with other Atheists as I do with Theists.


I am not sure why you are making such assumptions?
Why the **** would Atheists need a "National Day of Mourning"? Are Theists planning on killing Atheists? BTW I never said anything of the sort. I feel like you are saying that I should shut up and conform.

The fact is though that theists (not all) like to preach that if you are an Atheist then you have no morals.





It doesnt matter what the people in those places believe at all does it?


Atheists are people too just like anyone else. There are many different belief system that result in a person not believing in gods. Not all non-believers call themselves Atheists, I actually dont even like the label. I do not belong to some mysterious group of like minded people. I am an individual, I do not subscribe to a belief system shared by many.

I suppose it is difficult to understand that some people do not need an excuse to love or hate other people. Why do I celebrate holidays? Because its a cultural and family tradition and I like to do it. And the fact that there isnt any religious substance to celebration does not mean that the events are pointless to me. Instead of centering everything around a religious context I center these celebrations around the people that I love. I dont give my love to a god I give it to the people around me that touch my life that give my life meaning. Atheists are not heartless self centered robots out to harm everyone. Sure there always are some in a crowd, but generally Atheists are unrecognizable in crowd.

Atheism gets some much flack because Atheists are the one thing that just about all religions can agree on. Theists tend to assert that if you believe in any god that its better than not believing in any god.
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I apologize for the snarkiness of my posts. I get fed up with zgoldsmith at times, and the whole band of "woe is me, I'm an atheist" crew on DP.

I'm curious, though -- do you actually know other Deists? I've never met one.
 
Pinkie said:
I apologize for the snarkiness of my posts. I get fed up with zgoldsmith at times, and the whole band of "woe is me, I'm an atheist" crew on DP.

I'm curious, though -- do you actually know other Deists? I've never met one.
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Yes quit a few actually. There are plenty of people that believe in some type of god but do not belong to anything. I dont think that many people realize that they are Deists though. But I have heard a lot of people describe what they believe and it virtually mirrors Deism.

So as a Deist do you have any ceremonies that are a part of your life?


BTW I suspected that you were just caught up in the moment. :p
 
FreedomFromAll said:
Yes quit a few actually. There are plenty of people that believe in some type of god but do not belong to anything. I dont think that many people realize that they are Deists though. But I have heard a lot of people describe what they believe and it virtually mirrors Deism.

So as a Deist do you have any ceremonies that are a part of your life?


BTW I suspected that you were just caught up in the moment. :p
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Thanks.

:peace

I have little need of ceremony ATM; I do try and see my kid near the big holidays, but I won't remarry and with any luck, I won't bury anyone else.

I do decorate my house, especially the exterior, like a maniac, especially for Halloween.

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Does that count?
 
Pinkie said:
Thanks.

:peace

I have little need of ceremony ATM; I do try and see my kid near the big holidays, but I won't remarry and with any luck, I won't bury anyone else.

I do decorate my house, especially the exterior, like a maniac, especially for Halloween.

HALLOWEEN-FLAMINGO.jpg


Does that count?
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Halloween is my favorite time of year, all the harvest festivals are fun. Seriously its always been my favorite holiday.

Plus outcomes the traditional Rob Zombie cd,s.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
Halloween is my favorite time of year, all the harvest festivals are fun. Seriously its always been my favorite holiday.

Plus outcomes the traditional Rob Zombie cd,s.
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Amen, brotherman.

I wish we had Halloween once a month.
 
Pinkie said:
One function religion serves for most of us is to provide a ceremony for most of life's big occasions: birth, death, marriage, etc. Most religions also provide the annual celebrations in the winter and spring.

I wasn't in any religion when I got married and later, when I had my child, but I wanted the ceremonies, so I persuaded a local church to lend me theirs. I always have celebrated Xmas and Easter, even though I don't do it for religious reasons.

What do you do? Do you think these ceremonies have value for you, even if entirely secular?
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I celebrate all holidays (even Easter and Christmas - in a secular fashion) - had a wedding, had baby showers (after the kids were actually born so I could attend) . . . birthdays. All that.

I don't know what you mean by death (like a wake - or a funeral . . . I've done these) or what people might due for birth other than Christening.

God just isn't involved in it for me/us. . . our lives don't need God to honor the living/married/born/dead.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
I celebrate all holidays (even Easter and Christmas - in a secular fashion) - had a wedding, had baby showers (after the kids were actually born so I could attend) . . . birthdays. All that.

I don't know what you mean by death (like a wake - or a funeral . . . I've done these) or what people might due for birth other than Christening.

God just isn't involved in it for me/us. . . our lives don't need God to honor the living/married/born/dead.
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The only time I felt conflicted was when I had my kid baptised, as part of the reason I did it was "just in case".

I was a crappy atheist.

LOL.
 
Pinkie said:
The only time I felt conflicted was when I had my kid baptised, as part of the reason I did it was "just in case".

I was a crappy atheist.

LOL.
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I did it to - because I was raised in the tradition though I didn't believe in it - it was just a tradition that I think I followed to keep my parents a little more 'ok' with me.
 
Pinkie said:
Wait...what?

"Congregations of atheists"?

Has it dawned on you guys that if you keep up this behavior at some point, you'll be a religion as well?

WTF would you need to congregate? I still cannot understand why there are atheist conventions....to discuss what? All your non-beliefs?

In all the years I have spent as an atheist/agonist/theist, I never felt the need to find a group of like-minded people to discuss (?) my spirituality or lack thereof with. I rather considered the absence of any pressure to join a group was one big advantage to me beliefs.

I have to admit, the ceremony at the Creation Museum is funny -- but I'd never turn my baby's baptism/nonbaptism ceremony into a snark fest.
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Everything is better when being snarky. In terms of the "congregation" - I think that was a distraction on my part. I meant it in terms of "large number of atheists."

I like atheist "meetings" because then I get the chance to learn how everyone has their reasons behind the disbelief in their deity and why their how their field of knowledge expresses that.


Pinkie said:
Get off the cross, zgoldsmith, we need the wood.

How much pity will you require for all the suffering your atheism has subjected you to before you can stop demanding special care?
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It was a joke. Ever heard about atheists eating babies? Nom.
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
Everything is better when being snarky. In terms of the "congregation" - I think that was a distraction on my part. I meant it in terms of "large number of atheists."

I like atheist "meetings" because then I get the chance to learn how everyone has their reasons behind the disbelief in their deity and why their how their field of knowledge expresses that.




It was a joke. Ever heard about atheists eating babies? Nom.
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No, but as a young Catholic girl, I was taught that Protestants were prone to eating babies.

Not kidding -- when I was 12, I peeked inside the doors of a Presbytarian church during their services, as I was beginning to doubt that might be true. I don't think you can teach bigotry to a child who thinks you have the morals of a dead snake.
 
Anrch-Cptlst said:
Well you know us atheist like to sacrafice a lamb on Sundays, before the game. Pray to satan, since, you know if we don't believe in god we must worship satan. Also on Xmas we burn down orphanages. You know the usual.
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Don't forget those cool goat leggings...
 
Pinkie said:
No, but as a young Catholic girl, I was taught that Protestants were prone to eating babies.

Not kidding -- when I was 12, I peeked inside the doors of a Presbytarian church during their services, as I was beginning to doubt that might be true. I don't think you can teach bigotry to a child who thinks you have the morals of a dead snake.
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:lol: Morality :lol:
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
:lol: Morality :lol:
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Yes, it was like an IQ test: do I take my ethical compass bearings from any woman who beats little kids during the day and abuses them sexually at night, just because she's wearing a penguin suit?

Ah, not so much.
 
Pinkie said:
No, but as a young Catholic girl, I was taught that Protestants were prone to eating babies.
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Funny, considering that it's Catholics not Protestants who claim that they're eating an actual human being with the Eucharist.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
Funny, considering that it's Catholics not Protestants who claim that they're eating an actual human being with the Eucharist.
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The Fun With Cognitive Dissonance just never ended with the RCC for me, ThePlayDrive.
 
Pinkie said:
Yes, it was like an IQ test: do I take my ethical compass bearings from any woman who beats little kids during the day and abuses them sexually at night, just because she's wearing a penguin suit?

Ah, not so much.
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zgoldsmith23 said:
If you'd like. Even you must see the silliness behind ethical objectivity, though.
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I see the absurdity of nihilism, yes.

It's late and this thread title won't attract others to the debate, zgoldsmith. Mayhaps do an Op and I'll get on this tomorrow?
 
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