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Evolution

Which Statement Best Approximates Your Views on Evolution?

  • Humans evolved, with God guiding the process

    Votes: 25 25.5%

  • Humans evolved, but God had no part in the process

    Votes: 66 67.3%

  • God created humans in their present form

    Votes: 7 7.1%
  • Total voters
    98
NotEliTanenbaum

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NotEliTanenbaum said:
Which statement comes closest to your views?
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All of them? None of them? Most of them? Few of them? I give up, what is your answer? LOL I guess I got here too quick, like before the link or poll appeared. ;-)
 
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Humans evolved, began thinking themselves the center of the universe and fantasized up big sky parents to rationalize the unknown, quell existential dread and legitimize rulers with things like the mandate of heaven.

Didn't vote because choice #2 too strongly intimates the existence of your god.
 
D: Humans are the product of millions of years of micro and by extension macro evolution. God doesn't exist and is a fairy tale concocted by ignorant individuals.
 
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Hatuey said:
D: Humans are the product of millions of years of micro and by extension macro evolution. God doesn't exist and is a fairy tale concocted by ignorant individuals.
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DING DING DING DING! We have a winnah!
 
If a deity were guiding the process why are 99.9% of species in the planet's history no longer around, not just from human activity but several mass extinctions? Seems like he's not doing such a great job, or gets incredibly bored. Ultimately I think this a wasted controversy. It's laughable for people to think they can shield their kids from realities like this forever, but on the other hand, high school biology students aren't likely to remember or care about much that they're taught on evolution anyway.
 
I voted evolved but god had no part. I would like to add my vote to poorly worded poll. I don't know and or care if god was involved, consider me agnostic.
better poll would have been

Creationism
Intelligent design
Evolution
I vote evolution
 
Humans evolved, but god had not part in the process. This doesn't necessarily preclude the existence of a deity, but if one does exist, I believe it to be more of the "start the ball rolling and watch things play out as they will" sort than the micromanagement sort.
 
To suggest that species (including humans) do not change over time and branch off to create new species is to ignore a century and a half of scientific advancement. Evolution and natural selection are so entrenched in dozens of other scientific disciplines besides biology that many facets of modern technology and science would be gutted without evolutionary theory. Deniers of evolution do not understand quite the sweeping effects that such a change would cause. It's not just about how humans got here, and whether we were specially made by a god. It's about the very foundations of biology and how life works on this planet.
 
God created man. Left him/her is their favorite tree.
They came down from the tree and their tail fell off for lack of use. Evolution. .
Why else do we have a tail-bone?
 
Paschendale said:
To suggest that species (including humans) do not change over time and branch off to create new species is to ignore a century and a half of scientific advancement. Evolution and natural selection are so entrenched in dozens of other scientific disciplines besides biology that many facets of modern technology and science would be gutted without evolutionary theory. Deniers of evolution do not understand quite the sweeping effects that such a change would cause. It's not just about how humans got here, and whether we were specially made by a god. It's about the very foundations of biology and how life works on this planet.
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The bolded part is so true. If you don't believe in evolution i hope you never enter medicine because antibiotic resistant bacteria is an example of evolution.
 
There isn't enough data to say whether a god did or didn't guide evolution, only that evolution has been and is occurring.

When discussing things that are related to science, you have to be very careful to phrase them in terms of phenomena that can be observed and/or tested. God does't fit those guidelines.
 
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I believe that whatever the details might have been, all that happened in the development of life was at God's direction and by His will.
 
Goshin said:
I believe that whatever the details might have been, all that happened in the development of life was at God's direction and by His will.
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I for one never could figure out how evolution contradicted God to begin with, but hey.
 
Cardinal said:
There isn't enough data to say whether a god did or didn't guide evolution, only that evolution has been and is occurring.
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Uh, we know what does guides evolution: weather, food supply, competition among species, etc. In 170 years of modern sciences, "god" hasnt been observed guiding evolution(or for that matter ANY natural process) at a micro or macro level.
 
Hatuey said:
Exactly! We know what does guides evolution: weather, food supply, competition among species, etc. In 170 years of modern sciences, "god" hasnt been observed guiding evolution(or for that matter ANY natural process) at a micro or macro level.
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Corrected.
 
Cardinal said:
I for one never could figure out how evolution contradicted God to begin with, but hey.
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It doesn't in general. Perchance young earth creationism it does conflict with; but less one is taking a very literal interpretation of the Bible, gods and evolution can co-exist.
 
Ikari said:
It doesn't in general. Perchance young earth creationism it does conflict with; but less one is taking a very literal interpretation of the Bible, gods and evolution can co-exist.
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A very literal interpretation? How else is the bible supposed to be interpreted if not literally? It's a religious book that sought to lay out the process of creation within its first chapter. Evolution would most CERTAINLY conflict with the account christians, jews and muslims have for creation.
 
Hatuey said:
A very literal interpretation? How else is the bible supposed to be interpreted if not literally? It's a religious book that sought to lay out the process of creation within its first chapter. Evolution would most CERTAINLY conflict with the account christians, jews and muslims have for creation.
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The bible may be interpreted any way we wish. Perchance Genesis is a figurative telling of how the universe came into existence? Young earth creationism is at odds with measurement and evolution; but many theories of creationism are capable of co-existing.
 
I picked the first one, though it's not quite it. What I think is that God set the process of evolution in motion, knowing that one result of that would be human beings. God can see far into the future, forever you might say, so He had the foresight to see it coming.
 
Ikari said:
The bible may be interpreted any way we wish.
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This new age belief that you can grab the bible an interpret it as anything but a LITERAL account is nonsense. You can't have it both ways.

Either:

A)It is fictional, allegorical or any related descriptives. By default this means that the very existence of a god, creator OF everything is up for debate (1.I doubt this is what you want 2. this is clearly contrary to the claims made by the writers of the bible and, most importantly, 3. it does not conflict with the concept of a "creator").

or

B) It is the inerrant and LITERAL word of god as told to certain specific individuals all of which proceeded to create scriptures out of it. This means that evolution DOES in fact conflicts with the accounts in genesis.

Perchance Genesis is a figurative telling of how the universe came into existence? Young earth creationism is at odds with measurement and evolution; but many theories of creationism are capable of co-existing.
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This is contrary to the interpretation christians up until the age of modern science (about 170 years) have given the bible. For 1800+ years christian have interpreted the accounts of the bible as LITERAL tellings. They may have drawn different messages from the stories themselves, but there was little doubt that they did happen. What changed?
 
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Hatuey said:
This new age belief that you can grab the bible an interpret it as anything but a LITERAL account is nonsense. You can't have it both ways.

Either:

A)It is fictional, allegorical or any related descriptives. By default this means that the very existence of a god, creator OF everything is up for debate (1.I doubt this is what you want 2. this is clearly contrary to the claims made by the writers of the bible and, most importantly, 3. it does not conflict with the concept of a "creator").

or

B) It is the inerrant and LITERAL word of god as told to certain specific individuals all of which proceeded to create scriptures out of it. This means that evolution DOES in fact conflicts with the accounts in genesis.



This is contrary to the interpretation christians up until the age of modern science( about 170 years) would NEVER have considered.
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And now they do :shrug:
 
Ikari said:
And now they do :shrug:
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Only because they simply don't want to admit that ignorant semitic men (semitic includes arabs like mohammad) wrote a "best selling" line of fictional books that have created more wars and casualties than socialism, capitalism and nazism combined.
 
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