bhkad

Are American Muslims Today's "Negroes?"

In the same way that America rose to defend the rights of American Negroes in the 1960's, do you see America rising up to defend the rights of American Muslims?

Yes? No?

Why? Why Not?

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independent_thinker2002

No. What civil rights of theirs are being infringed on?

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bub

Are there many Muslims in America?

Are they treated differently than the other minorities?

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winston53660

bkhad certainly would like to treat them differently.

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Arcana XV

Is this another trick question about Obama being a Muslim?

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Gipper

At the point Columbus was colonizing America, Muslims were trying to conquer Jerusalem in a series of bloody wars.

Blacks were yanked from their home and enslaved. Muslims have just spent several centuries trying to kill anything moving. At least Christians learned their lessons after the Crusades.

Yeah, I feel bad if Habib gets his 7-11 smashed up needlessly. However, I sure won't go to bat for American Muslims like I would African-Americans. As far as those Muslims, I say keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Just not within the blast radius.

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Laila

Arab Muslims, don't drag the rest of the Muslim population because of the Arabs stupidity and ignorance.

< African Muslim who doesn't give a **** about ME and who controls Jerusalem.

new coup for you

The American Muslim community is divided into two groups, and it's important to understand their distinctions:

1)Nation of Islam

2)(real) Muslims

Nation of Islam is a crazy cult invented by black-power groups in the 60s and is just about completely dissimilar from normal Islam. However, it shares some cosmetic similarities.

However it's not as simple as "black Muslims" versus "real Muslims" because many black people in the US are "real" Muslims, not Nation of Islam. However, black Muslims may or may not integrate with immigrant Muslim groups which are generally from Pakistan, North Africa or Southeast Asian Oceania (Indonesia, the Southern Philippines, etc.).

How many total? I couldn't tell you...but be wary of statistics regarding the US Muslim population. Many people who aren't from urban areas with large black populations aren't able to distinguish Nation of Islam from real Islam, and if they are they aren't aware that many self identifying black Muslims are in fact real Muslims, not Nation of Islam.

I could tell that in Philly it's a very real presence. West Philadelphia has a lot of immigrants from North Africa and Halal (the Islamic version of Kosher) restaurants and delis are pretty common in many neighborhoods, as are women wearing Burkas.

My high school, which was in West Philly, was a Catholic school but was within walking distance of three North African Mosques.

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bub

But they are treated just like the other minorities, aren't they?

There are also Philipinos with their own kind of restaurant, the mexicans with their tacos etc...

Maybe religion plays a role to "keep them apart", but other communities are also very "self centered" (I think inter-racial marriages with asians and black people are much less frequent than mariages between 2 asians or between 2 blacks)

1069

Anyone who wants to see a fine example of how two races can integrate painlessly and seamlessly should take the Texas middle-class as an example.
It's comprised of nearly equal parts whites and hispanics; they freely intermarry and interbreed, so that at this point (and certainly within the next generation) the majority of the children of the middle class are mixtures of white and hispanic. And nobody cares. It's not even interesting when somebody says "My grandmother was mexican." It's like, "So? Whose wasn't?"

It probably helps that middle class whites and hispanics tend to share the same cultural and religious values, for the most part, and that hybrids of these two races tend to be able to pass for anglo, as far as superficial appearances go.

It reminds me of how it must've been at the turn of the 20th century, when Italians, Irish, etc all began to mix. At first it was a big deal, I'm sure, and then gradually, it just wasn't. Today, somebody can say, "I'm half german and half Irish", and that's so irrelevant that one forgets it the second after one hears it. It's like, "So what?"

I hope someday all races will be intermixed as seamlessly as this, and will integrate parts of all their cultures into one big multicultural grab bag, keeping what is meaningful to them and discarding the rest.

The only problem with this mixed latino/ white middle class we have here is that they all tend to be virulently scornful of "illegals", ignoring the fact that their own grandparents might've been "illegals", that their white ancestors were merely visitors here on the sufferance of the Mexican government when all of Texas was part of Mexico, which was not so terribly long ago, in the grand scheme of things.

But still, my point is, it would just be so great to me if asians, blacks, whites, and everyone else integrated into one race and culture. Then people could focus on being individuals, rather than members of a race, ethnicity, or culture. And racism would cease to be a problem. We really need to end tribalism. That's all it is, really; a throwback to the caveman days. And whites are the worst offenders of all.

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