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The world is not self sufficient so why do people think it is?

Kelfuma

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The world cannot survive on its own. It relies on otherworldly influences (the sun and moon to name a few examples). Why do people assume that the world is self sufficient? That the world is selfish and needs nothing but itself to survive?

When you assume that the world is self sufficient, you assume that only the world can fix its own problems. No help from above or outside can come in. This is a ridiculous thought. Power corrupts because man thinks he is at the top when being at the "top" is a concept that man himself made up to measure his own progress.

Truth is relative; it is dynamic and always changing to the fit the needs of the current generations. There is an absolute truth but it is impossible to achieve, one can only do their best to come as close to it as possible just like a limit in calculus.

On a personal note, I find it naive and somewhat humorous that many people do not take the existence of extraterrestrial alien civilizations seriously. Where else did our civilization and earth come from if not from the stars?
 
It sounds to me that you are taking something out of context. I would agree, the "world cannot survive on its own" for the reasons you mention.

However, I would also put forth that the world can very much survive without humanity. It has before, and odds are it will again one day. And that is probably more inline with the context you heard.
 
It sounds to me that you are taking something out of context. I would agree, the "world cannot survive on its own" for the reasons you mention.

However, I would also put forth that the world can very much survive without humanity. It has before, and odds are it will again one day. And that is probably more inline with the context you heard.

Survive? Why shouldn't it just hurdle through the void for ever?
 
It sounds to me that you are taking something out of context. I would agree, the "world cannot survive on its own" for the reasons you mention.

However, I would also put forth that the world can very much survive without humanity. It has before, and odds are it will again one day. And that is probably more inline with the context you heard.

Well, the world would survive. It's just that we living things wouldn't.
 
Survive? Why shouldn't it just hurdle through the void for ever?

Well, the world would survive. It's just that we living things wouldn't.

The point my friends is the Earth is not dependent on us... at all.

The Earth has been through a very long period where we were not around making matters worse on an ecological and resource level. Moreover, the Earth itself has seen a couple (at least) restarts on what we define as "life" and we have very little evidence that it will not happen again one day.

Even if we are asinine enough to end all life on Earth in a nuclear holocaust temper tantrum, the Earth will carry on. No matter if it takes several thousand years, or a hundred thousand years, or more... some other "life" will be here at some point.

Despite what you are told in Sunday School, we are not that relevant to the universe.

(I should quote Fight Club... "You are not special. You're not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else.")
 
I have never met a single person in my life who said we don't need the sun or moon.
 
I have never met a single person in my life who said we don't need the sun or moon.

And you never will because they take it for granted, but then they start blaming the banks, the organization, the company, the whatever, for all of their problems.
 
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