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Who killed JonBenet Ramsey?

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I'm always fascinated by mysteries. Six year old JonBenet Ramsey was murdered 20 years ago and her murder has never been solved. Everyone has an opinion, although it seems like almost everyone believes that someone in the house that night killed her. Anyone else interested in this case and going to watch the shows on it this weekend?
 
We're still looking for Jimmy Hoffa too. Last I heard we was holding up one of the goal posts at the Meadowlands.
 
From all of the evidence that I've seen, I have no doubt the parents were involved. Though not first degree.
 
Middleground said:
From all of the evidence that I've seen, I have no doubt the parents were involved. Though not first degree.
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I agree. The parents had to know something whether one of them accidentally killed her or her brother killed her.
 
Josie said:
I agree. The parents had to know something whether one of them accidentally killed her or her brother killed her.
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Yup, I think that pretty much sums it up. Maybe one of these days, the brother will speak out.
 
Middleground said:
Yup, I think that pretty much sums it up. Maybe one of these days, the brother will speak out.
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He was on Dr. Phil. I didn't see it, but someone said that he was smiling too much while talking about his sister's murder. Kinda creepy.
 
Josie said:
He was on Dr. Phil. I didn't see it, but someone said that he was smiling too much while talking about his sister's murder. Kinda creepy.
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He seemed kind of weird in the police tape shortly after the murder. They have new evidence that the might have been awake and not in his room, as described by his parents to the police. When they called 911, they didn't hang up properly and the dispatcher heard some muffled voices. Experts listened to the tape and think there's a third voice.
 
I think that it was a botched investigation. The Police publicly and privately insinuated that they thought the Ramseys were guilty and because of their presumption they missed the evidentiary trail and the delay is what we have today. We need a better look at the Police files.
 
DaveFagan said:
I think that it was a botched investigation. The Police publicly and privately insinuated that they thought the Ramseys were guilty and because of their presumption they missed the evidentiary trail and the delay is what we have today. We need a better look at the Police files.
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agreed...they made it appear like it was the family...I thought it was, I was on board

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over the years...just one more family victimized by us...the stupid and gullible
 
I never knew the details of the story until watching this TLC documentary. She had undigested pineapple in her stomach and there was a bowl of pineapple with a spoon on the kitchen table. So someone was up with her in the middle of the night getting her pineapple before she died.
 
Well, now this next part of the documentary makes me think there WAS an intruder. What a freakin' botched investigation.
 
Josie said:
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I'm always fascinated by mysteries. Six year old JonBenet Ramsey was murdered 20 years ago and her murder has never been solved. Everyone has an opinion, although it seems like almost everyone believes that someone in the house that night killed her. Anyone else interested in this case and going to watch the shows on it this weekend?
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My money is on the mother, but she's dead. So...we'll probably never know.
 
calamity said:
My money is on the mother, but she's dead. So...we'll probably never know.
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But another investigator uncovered things the Boulder police didn't --- someone could've come through the basement window which was broken, there was another DNA present on her body (not a family member's DNA) and there was a footprint left with shoes that no one owned in the house. He also thinks the marks on her body show a stun gun was used on her -- no one in the house owned one.
 
Josie said:
But another investigator uncovered things the Boulder police didn't --- someone could've come through the basement window which was broken, there was another DNA present on her body (not a family member's DNA) and there was a footprint left with shoes that no one owned in the house. He also thinks the marks on her body show a stun gun was used on her -- no one in the house owned one.
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The rambling ransom note, to me, signals silly cover-up of an inside job.
 
calamity said:
The rambling ransom note, to me, signals silly cover-up of an inside job.
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Yeah, that bothers me too. A handwriting analyst says it's very likely that Patsy wrote the note.
 
I guess we'll never know. What a mess that case was. I cant believe that modern day police forensics could botch it up so badly.
 
Josie said:
Yeah, that bothers me too. A handwriting analyst says it's very likely that Patsy wrote the note.
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IIRC, they also found a "rough draft" of said note written on the same pad with same pen. It's bizarre to say the least.

Latest DNA excludes the family, which throws the whole thing in the air. But, again with the IIRC, she was not raped, in the traditional sense. So, who the hell knows?

I can't see the mom being innocent though...or the dad not being involved in the cover up. But...no one can prove it. They probably never will.
 
I suspect we'll never know for sure who killed her. If one good thing came out of that tawdry and depressing murder it's that the spotlight got shone on the creepy world of child beauty pageants. I wonder if they are as popular these days as they were before the Benet case. Anyone know?
 
Andalublue said:
I suspect we'll never know for sure who killed her. If one good thing came out of that tawdry and depressing murder it's that the spotlight got shone on the creepy world of child beauty pageants. I wonder if they are as popular these days as they were before the Benet case. Anyone know?
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They are still popular. Probably more so now. There's a show all about them on TLC.
 
CBS is airing their documentary tonight. It has begun with a breakdown of the 911 call. They use noise reduction and other technology to try to figure out who was talking and what they were saying after Patsy Ramsey thought she hung up. They believe that they hear Patsy, John and Burke's voices -- but the parents say Burke was asleep at this time. They say that John said, "We're not speaking to you," Patsy said "What did you do?" and Burke said "What did you find?"
 
Josie said:
CBS is airing their documentary tonight. It has begun with a breakdown of the 911 call. They use noise reduction and other technology to try to figure out who was talking and what they were saying after Patsy Ramsey thought she hung up. They believe that they hear Patsy, John and Burke's voices -- but the parents say Burke was asleep at this time. They say that John said, "We're not speaking to you," Patsy said "What did you do?" and Burke said "What did you find?"
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I watched the beginning of the CBS show and their analysis of the 911 call.
It seemed like a huge leap for the show's hosts to claim they could tell what was being said in the garbled part of the call.
Originally, I thought the brother did it and the parents covered it up.
But DNA tests indicated contact by an unknown male.
Supposedly, this documentary's hosts are going to name a suspect tomorrow.
Sad, tragic case.
 
radioman said:
I watched the beginning of the CBS show and their analysis of the 911 call.
It seemed like a huge leap for the show's hosts to claim they could tell what was being said in the garbled part of the call.
Originally, I thought the brother did it and the parents covered it up.
But DNA tests indicated contact by an unknown male.
Supposedly, this documentary's hosts are going to name a suspect tomorrow.
Sad, tragic case.
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I thought it was a huge leap too. I didn't hear what they heard. The 911 operator said she was suspicious and something didn't feel right during the 911 call.

The problem with the DNA is that everything was tampered with -- the body was moved and laid down on an area where many people had been walking around. The investigators had no idea this was a murder until the father found the body, so they let people walk around the house.

The part last night that really made me cringe was when they had a little boy (about 10 years old) recreate what they think might've happened --- bashing in a skull with a flashlight. That was a bit disturbing.
 
I watched most of that CBS show last night and was unimpressed. Clemente and the former FBI guys and the British woman Linda whoever were performing for the cameras. This was a show.

Yes, yes, the voice analysis stuff was very interesting. The only folks they could find to talk about the case were the 9-1-1 operator who had never been interviewed (and who appeared to me to have been coached), the gardener talking about how Jon Benet would play in the leaves (but Burke did not--dun, dun dun dun) and when OJ was acquitted, how Patsy came out of the house to tell him, and the one who former friend who was dropped forever after talking about the case.

The so-called friend pronounced the Ramseys "hypocrites," and at that point, the producers showed a tiara dropping and breaking. Please, this is theater, shameless theater. I couldn't even believe it.
 
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