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Poor taste or thoughtful fundraiser?

I think . . .

  • This is perfectly fine.

    Votes: 7 53.8%

  • This is offensive.

    Votes: 3 23.1%

  • Who cares?

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • Total voters
    13
It's a raffle for a good cause. Who gives a **** what it's selling? Will the folks who receive it turn down the money? Hardly.
 
Goshin said:
My best-friend-like-a-brother (and I mean really like a brother, our mothers each called the other "second son") was murdered by a gunshot to the head from a Ruger Redhawk .44 magnum. I remember the trial where the weapon was prominently displayed by the prosecution, and dry-fired more than once in dramatic replay of the moment of the murder.


I wouldn't have any problem owning a Ruger Redhawk if I cared to spend the money for that style of revolver. The gun itself does not arouse any superstitious dread in me. It is merely a tool, and I don't blame my brother's death on the gun.


I blame the murderer.
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had the murderer been denied access to the handgun used as the tool committing your brother's unfortunate death, is it not probable that your brother would be with us today?
 
justabubba said:
had the murderer been denied access to the handgun used as the tool committing your brother's unfortunate death, is it not probable that your brother would be with us today?
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Considering how many felons I know who have armed themselves with ease even though it is illegal for them to purchase or possess firearms? I don't see where any sort of ban on the perp legally buying a gun would have been likely to prevent the murders. He would have just turned to the black market, I have no doubt.
 
MaggieD said:
A McHenry gun store is raffling off an AR-15 to benefit the victims of the Orlando massacre. Thoughts?






McHenry gun shop to raffle off AR-15 rifle to benefit Orlando shooting victims - Chicago Tribune
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It's offensive. It's a "raffle" just to make a political statement and for advertising and to "gun" up business. Not to help anyone (but gun owners and the gun shop).

It would be ironic if it were used to kill people. But then they could have another raffle of an AR-15!
 
BrewerBob said:
I'm guessing not enough to dissuade the owners from offering it.
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Very good guess. I just wonder how the owners of those shops and ranges would know. After all, homosexuals don't carry cards certifying they are homosexuals. Claiming to be gay sounds like a great way for some clever sneak to buy a gun very cheap and get a lot of free time at the range.
 
DaveFagan said:
When you decide to raise money for charitable purposes, or otherwise, it is difficult to identify items that are popular enough sell large quantities of raffle tickets. Guns are an item of high demand and really sell tickets. In the end the money goes to a good cause and therefore I can't see a problem. It's a gun store helping the victims and showing their heart is in the right place. Is it an ethical/moral dilemna? I blame the shooter in Orlando, not the guns. No dilemna for me.
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Yep. I'd buy a ticket knowing I'm supporting something good.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
So? This is an opportunity to raise awareness and show solidarity with oppressed people. Offering these services makes the gun dealers "the good guys", and that's a perception that all gun people need right now.
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I don't consider homosexuals living in the United States "oppressed people," and I think most Americans can hardly escape being made all too aware of them. I agree, though, that making the people who are offering these services look good probably helps all of us who support the Second Amendment.

Does it matter? The outreach is still worth the money. You think gun shops are cutting their own throats to provide these free lessons? They're giving what they can afford, and a few cheaters aren't going to make up a serious loss.
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I only brought up the possible cheating because it made me smile to imagine some sharp operator trying to do that, as the people offering these services tried to handle the awkward situation that would result if they didn't believe he was gay. What these businesses choose to do, or not do, is their lookout.
 
Beaudreaux said:
The gunman didn't use an AR-15. He used a Sig Sauer MCX. Completely different gun.
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Thanks (and also to Kori). Weird that I've seen it everywhere and it's just not the sort of thing one would think to double check. Weird.

I still find it tone-deaf. But yeah.
 
BrewerBob said:
I don't have a problem with AR-15s but this doesn't sit right with me. I admit there is no rational reason for it not sitting right with me, but humans aren't always rational. And grieving people are even less rational so I could see this bothering them much more.

It is not just a gun thing either. If my kid died from having a grand piano fall on him it would be weird to raise money for me by selling a grand piano.

Or hell, if your kid was run over by a sports car and then someone raised money for you by publicly auctioning off a sports car. The intent is good and rationally there shouldn't be a problem...but it many would be uncomfortable with it.
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Yeah. A better move would be to say something like, "10% of all profits during the month of July will be donated to the Orlando shooting victims and their families."
 
joG said:
Why should anyone object? The money is for for a good purpose. I am fine with it. I won my first revolver at a lottery.
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Was it a fundraiser to support shooting victims?

That being said guns are pretty common item at charity events where I live and I've bought 3 at actions over the years. Local people did have a cow when supporters of the hospital foundation wanted to donate a pink AR-15 to raffle off for breast cancer awareness, it ended up getting turned down.
 
MaggieD said:
A McHenry gun store is raffling off an AR-15 to benefit the victims of the Orlando massacre. Thoughts?






McHenry gun shop to raffle off AR-15 rifle to benefit Orlando shooting victims - Chicago Tribune
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Good morning Maggie,

Gotta say I found it a little offensive, even though that type of thing never truly offends me - just not overly PC. That said, it did strike me as a little odd. Would be like a fireworks manufacturer raffling off a bunch of fireworks to raise money and support for a family who's child died misusing fireworks. Far better, in my view, to simply post that a portion of sales would go to the cause, recognizing that any time one of these mass shootings happens, business in gun shops in the US booms.
 
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