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Dad Arrested for Taking Daughter’s Phone as Punishment

Two parents trying to stick it to each other, with a child caught in the middle. This nonsense dragged on for three freaking years! The result? A shattered relationship between a girl and her father, because both parents hate each other more than they love their child.

I've used that line when talking with idiotic divorced parents, before.
 
Except you have no idea what the daughter posted, just that the father took exception to it. You are assuming he was right in his assessment of the content. Why are you so willing to take his position and not that of the ex-wife and daughter?

Yup I am. That is the parent's prerogative. You are grasping at straws IMO to speculate he didnt do it for a valid reason.

So yes, there's no reason (and even the mother didnt challenge it) to speculate that he did so without a legit reason. (Why would he do that????)
 
Except you have no idea what the daughter posted, just that the father took exception to it. You are assuming he was right in his assessment of the content. Why are you so willing to take his position and not that of the ex-wife and daughter?

Great point. Everyone is assuming dad is a hero for taking away the phone without even knowing why.
 
Yup I am. That is the parent's prerogative. You are grasping at straws IMO to speculate he didnt do it for a valid reason.
Really? You seem happy to assume the worst of everyone else involved in this case except for him. Do you know him or something? Or perhaps you just identify with his situation.

So yes, there's no reason (and even the mother didnt challenge it)
You certainly have no basis for claiming she didn't.

to speculate that he did so without a legit reason. (Why would he do that????)
Because he hates his ex-wife and it was her who gave the daughter her iPhone? I'm just speculating, but then so are you.
 
Really? You seem happy to assume the worst of everyone else involved in this case except for him. Do you know him or something? Or perhaps you just identify with his situation.

You certainly have no basis for claiming she didn't.

Because he hates his ex-wife and it was her who gave the daughter her iPhone? I'm just speculating, but then so are you.

See, the difference is, my speculation isnt based on 'presuming' they DID things, as you are, but in not inventing things not in evidence. I doubt you get the distinction.
 
Not surprised the whole situation stems from what looks like a pretty bitter divorce. What I am surprised at is that it actually went to a jury. I'm sure mom was hell on wheels threatening all sorts of bad things if the case was dumped, but still, if there was ever a case for prosecutorial discretion, this is it. As eye poppingly silly as this is, it's also pretty sad that a relationship between father and daughter was severed over this.

This is why we ought to allow some form of loser-pays for these kinds of scenarios.
 
Yup I am. That is the parent's prerogative. You are grasping at straws IMO to speculate he didnt do it for a valid reason.

So yes, there's no reason (and even the mother didnt challenge it) to speculate that he did so without a legit reason. (Why would he do that????)

More to the point - it's not their place to determine what a valid reason is. It's the parents'.
 
See, the difference is, my speculation isnt based on 'presuming' they DID things, as you are, but in not inventing things not in evidence. I doubt you get the distinction.
You presumed the father was telling the truth and that the ex-wife and daughter were lying. :shrug:
 
You presumed the father was telling the truth and that the ex-wife and daughter were lying. :shrug:

No, I never claimed the wife lied, or the daughter. Dont invent stuff.

Technically she may have a legal claim that he took her property. That's not a lie, and it was up to the court to decide if it was illegal. Apparently it wasnt.
 
No, I never claimed the wife lied, or the daughter. Dont invent stuff.

You said: "And it's interesting you are so willing to speculate there is something wrong with the father's parenting, since he is the one that acted responsibly here, disciplining the daughter IMO appropriately." The ex-wife and daughter disagreed that he acted responsibly, hence the dispute. You say he acted appropriately, meaning they are not telling the truth when they say differently. It's not a difficult or inaccurate deduction.
 
You said: "And it's interesting you are so willing to speculate there is something wrong with the father's parenting, since he is the one that acted responsibly here, disciplining the daughter IMO appropriately." The ex-wife and daughter disagreed that he acted responsibly, hence the dispute. You say he acted appropriately, meaning they are not telling the truth when they say differently. It's not a difficult or inaccurate deduction.

I didnt see the mother or daughter dispute that he took the phone away for invalid reasons. Altho I would discount such a claim from the daughter in general, as the recipient of the discipline.
 
I just want to shake my head in disbelief.

Could the officers sue yahoo for libel?

He was arrested for refusing to return it to the mother when she picked up her daughter, not for the act of taking it from the daughter.

Frankly, I say screw them both (the father and the mother), they're both adulterers.
 
Surprisingly interesting case.

The father has every right to prevent the daughter from using the phone while in his custody. But since the mom purchased it I don't see how the father can refuse giving it back to the mother.

In a joint custody situation can one parent take, and KEEP, whatever they want from their child even if the other parent paid for it and the child has returned to the other parent's custody?

I am sure glad my parents remained civil when they got divorced.
Phone was listed on his cell plan, that is ownership of the phone - Yes- No - does not matter who paid for it.
 
Even before the arrest having your new police officer boyfriend show up at your ex-husbands house over what was initially the discipline of his own daughter. I'm quite sure it escalated on both sides from there.

The DA raised the charges. Why?
 
Two parents trying to stick it to each other, with a child caught in the middle. This nonsense dragged on for three freaking years! The result? A shattered relationship between a girl and her father, because both parents hate each other more than they love their child.

That is the case in many divorces. Sad but true, each uses the child for leverage.
 
Phone was listed on his cell plan, that is ownership of the phone - Yes- No - does not matter who paid for it.

That might be true, but it isn't necessarily true. The SIM card is his but if the mom bought an I phone to put the SIM card into that complicates things. But if the iPhone was part of the dad's contract then that definitely would have bolstered his case.
 
That might be true, but it isn't necessarily true. The SIM card is his but if the mom bought an I phone to put the SIM card into that complicates things. But if the iPhone was part of the dad's contract then that definitely would have bolstered his case.
This came out later with more info.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...re-top-stories_mm-iphone-916am:homepage/story

Steppe, 40, and her fiance bought the phone for her daughter, but it was on Jackson’s cellular plan.

After Jackson confiscated the cellphone, both parents said, the girl went to a friend’s house and called her mom. Police were sent to Jackson’s home and, while there, tried to get it back, according to WFAA.
 
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