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The Big Short

poweRob

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Great movie. Anyone else see this yet?

They do such a fantastic job explaining how it the meltdown occurred and cleaning up the confusion that Wall Street injected into the whole thing to hide their mischievous behavior.

Steve Carrell and Christian Bale really did awesome jobs with their parts.

What I thought was insane was Christian Bales character, Michael Burry, guy saw it coming in 2005 and started shorting the housing market then. Then when it was over he went to the government and asked if they wanted to know what he saw that early they never returned his call and instead audited him twice and had an FBI investigation of him.
 
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I'm looking forward to seeing it. I may be somewhere in the 30s range on books read about the financial collapse fiasco, and always like seeing more on the subject... even if in the form of a movie.
 
OrphanSlug said:
I'm looking forward to seeing it. I may be somewhere in the 30s range on books read about the financial collapse fiasco, and always like seeing more on the subject... even if in the form of a movie.
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It'll be a light going off in your head if you've read about it. All that gobbldygook is hard to digest... which is they way they wanted it... and the movie really clarifies the lingo and maneuvers.
 
poweRob said:
It'll be a light going off in your head if you've read about it. All that gobbldygook is hard to digest... which is they way they wanted it... and the movie really clarifies the lingo and maneuvers.
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Don't tell the extremist right wing that.

They stil think poor people are responsible.

Look forward to watching it.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Don't tell the extremist right wing that.

They stil think poor people are responsible.

Look forward to watching it.
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They said that in the movie as well. Instead of these criminals going to jail, they blamed it on immigrants and poor people and got away with it.
 
I was going to say I'd heard good things about it but reading this thread so far, I'm guessing it's pretty political and I get the impression I may not like it so much. :lol:
 
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I was going to say I'd heard good things about it but reading this thread so far, I'm guessing it's pretty political and I get the impression I may not like it so much. :lol:
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No kidding, it sounds like another election year Hollywood revision/justification of leftist failures disguised as entertainment for the low information true believers. This thread saved me a few bucks.
 
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X Factor said:
I was going to say I'd heard good things about it but reading this thread so far, I'm guessing it's pretty political and I get the impression I may not like it so much. :lol:
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Nope... it's not. It's straight forward about several players who saw the meltdown long before it happened. It's one guy who is like a math savaant wo saw it first and got the banks to let him bet against the housing market while they laughed at him, a crew who worked in a wing of Merrril Lynch who got a phone call accidentally and investigated it, and a couple guys who started in their mom's garage investing $110,000 and turned it quickly into $30 million and wanted to play big ball but got shot down... then tripped over the findings of the savaant guy.
 
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Ray410 said:
No kidding, it sounds like another election year Hollywood revision/justification of leftist failures disguised as entertainment. This thread saved me a few bucks.
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Me too, actually. Come to think of it, my really good friend who told me how fantastic it is, is also quite liberal. I won't mind seeing it, but only once it hits Netflix.
 
Ray410 said:
No kidding, it sounds like another election year Hollywood revision/justification of leftist failures disguised as entertainment for the low information true believers. This thread saved me a few bucks.
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Or you can watch it and realize how wrong you are. Be warned though, it deals with the facts of what happened and isn't candy coated in partisan bubble speak.
 
poweRob said:
Nope... it's not. It's straight forward about several players who saw the meltdown long before it happened. It's one guy who is like a math savaant wo saw it first and got the banks to let him bet against the housing market while they laughed at him, a crew who worked in a wing of Merrril Lynch who got a phone call accidentally and investigated it, and a couple guys who started in their mom's garage investing $110,000 and turned it quickly into $30 million and wanted to play big ball but got shot down... then tripped over the findings of the savaant guy.
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Ah, but look how quickly political just this thread about the movie became. My suspicion is that the movie plays right into what you already believe about who the bad guys are and who were just hapless victims and, incidentally, there's not a single thing wrong with that. Totally to each their own, like how American Sniper appealed more to conservatives. Glad you enjoyed your movie.
 
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Ah, but look how quickly political just this thread about the movie became. My suspicion is that the movie plays right into what you already believe about who the bad guys are and who were just hapless victims and, incidentally, there's not a single thing wrong with that. Totally to each their own, like how American Sniper appealed more to conservatives. Glad you enjoyed your movie.
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Political forum. People here are geared towards politicizing. I must say, I'm now curious to hear a conservative's input on the movie to see if they saw politicization in the movie. I do know Fenton will hate it if he sees it because he's convinced it was all the government's fault and the banks did almost nothing wrong. But I don't believe even most conservatives think like him on this topic.
 
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poweRob said:
Political forum. People here are geared towards politicizing. I must say, I'm now curious to hear a conservative's input on the movie to see if they saw politicization in the movie.
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I'd be interested in that, too.
 
poweRob said:
Great movie. Anyone else see this yet?

They do such a fantastic job explaining how it the meltdown occurred and cleaning up the confusion that Wall Street injected into the whole thing to hide their mischievous behavior.

Steve Carrell and Christian Bale really did awesome jobs with their parts.

What I thought was insane was Christian Bales character, Michael Burry, guy saw it coming in 2005 and started shorting the housing market then. Then when it was over he went to the government and asked if they wanted to know what he saw that early they never returned his call and instead audited him twice and had an FBI investigation of him.
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I didn't think it was out yet. I plan on seeing it. Looks good.
 
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I didn't think it was out yet. I plan on seeing it. Looks good.
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It gives you this weird feeling. You are watching these guys who've found all this out early and you start rooting for them only to realize that if they are right that means the country loses badly... but since you already know the country loses badly so its not a spoiler or big surprise... you start pulling for them again. Kind of a yo-yo ride of emotion.
 
poweRob said:
Or you can watch it and realize how wrong you are. Be warned though, it deals with the facts of what happened and isn't candy coated in partisan bubble speak.
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Does it mention the CRA and ACORN?

If not, then it doesn't mention "all" the facts.
 
Mycroft said:
Does it mention the CRA and ACORN?

If not, then it doesn't mention "all" the facts.
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how about critiquing the movie AFTER you see it?
 
poweRob said:
how about critiquing the movie AFTER you see it?
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I'm not going to see it if it is only going to give part of the story. That's why I'm asking you about it. You said it gave the facts.
 
Mycroft said:
I'm not going to see it if it is only going to give part of the story. That's why I'm asking you about it. You said it gave the facts.
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Read my posts. It's about the guys who saw it coming before anyone else. if you want a politicized documentary, then its not for you.
 
poweRob said:
Read my posts. It's about the guys who saw it coming before anyone else. if you want a politicized documentary, then its not for you.
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Did it pretty much confirm what you already believed about that whole thing?
 
poweRob said:
Read my posts. It's about the guys who saw it coming before anyone else. if you want a politicized documentary, then its not for you.
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Okay...you don't want to answer my question. So it goes...
 
poweRob said:
Great movie. Anyone else see this yet?

They do such a fantastic job explaining how it the meltdown occurred and cleaning up the confusion that Wall Street injected into the whole thing to hide their mischievous behavior.

Steve Carrell and Christian Bale really did awesome jobs with their parts.

What I thought was insane was Christian Bales character, Michael Burry, guy saw it coming in 2005 and started shorting the housing market then. Then when it was over he went to the government and asked if they wanted to know what he saw that early they never returned his call and instead audited him twice and had an FBI investigation of him.
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What's amazing is that Canada looked at easing banking regulations in the late 90's and backed away, in fact toughened them after Bank of Canada governor David Dodge predicted the collapse.....

There were warnings beginning in the mid 1990's, and even some on the inside knew perfectly well exactly what was comming
 
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Did it pretty much confirm what you already believed about that whole thing?
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What it did was clarify the banking terminology behind it. What happened I was familiar with I just didn't know how deep they went to bury the evidence to the public of the corruption. The movie was about those groups of guys who saw it early.

So while these guys invested and watched the bubble grow they didn't account for how far some would go to lie about it and hide it. These guys thought it would collapse by X time and it realistically did but the lenders, banks, rating agencies AND the government basically conspired and lied and denied to the public in a way that they couldn't get a return on their money and it was costing them big bucks each month that it was being delayed.

Then when it collapses they almost lose everything anyway because the investments were with the banks that were collapsing themselves.

I know that you want to politicize this by seeing if the movie confirms a liberal's view of the crash... its simply not about that. It just tells you what these guys saw.
 
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Mycroft said:
Okay...you don't want to answer my question. So it goes...
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I didn't build this thread in the General politics forum and you want to politicize it. If you don't want to see the movie... don't see it. No need to come in here and preach to everyone about a topic you don't know much about... And that topic is about these guys' perspective of the meltdown.
 
Ray410 said:
No kidding, it sounds like another election year Hollywood revision/justification of leftist failures disguised as entertainment for the low information true believers. This thread saved me a few bucks.
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The film was released in 2015 which is not an election year. If it was intended as propaganda they would have released it after the candidates had been chosen.

I know the US is a totally divided but not everything is propaganda....especially when you haven't even seen it
 
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