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Radcen - Bah! Humbug!!! (Christmas poll)

Do you actually *LIKE* Christmas?

  • I hate it. Hate it, hate it.

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Do you actually *LIKE* Christmas?

Me: No, I do not. It's inconvenient. It's shallow. I just consider it to be a major pain in the arse, and always look forward to afterward. The passing of Christmas means spring is around the corner, not unlike the Super Bowl signifying that football is finally done and Spring Training is just a few weeks away.

Now, I will happily take paid vacation days. I may be a grump, but I'm not dumb. :lol:
 
Do you actually *LIKE* Christmas?

Me: No, I do not. It's inconvenient. It's shallow. I just consider it to be a major pain in the arse, and always look forward to afterward. The passing of Christmas means spring is around the corner, not unlike the Super Bowl signifying that football is finally done and Spring Training is just a few weeks away.

Now, I will happily take paid vacation days. I may be a grump, but I'm not dumb. :lol:

The commercial aspect of Christmas is for children. If one has young children and an adequate pocket book, it's fun. It a parent is struggling to buy the latest Star Wars figurines, light sabers and tricycles without the funds, I think it can be heartbreaking for parents. Kids?? They can be pretty much happy with anything if brought up right. JMVHO.
 
The commercial aspect of Christmas is for children. If one has young children and an adequate pocket book, it's fun. It a parent is struggling to buy the latest Star Wars figurines, light sabers and tricycles without the funds, I think it can be heartbreaking for parents. Kids?? They can be pretty much happy with anything if brought up right. JMVHO.
My youngest is now 27, and I don't have grandkids (yet), but I do remember enjoying watching their excitement. Maybe I'm too far removed from that.
 
The money people spend at X-mas time is extremely important to the economy at large.

Therefore, regardless of your personal feelings, it's a great time for all.
 
Doesn't counter a single thing I said.

You can be happy that many small businesses and their owners can support themselves and stay in business.

So for that, you should "like" X-mas.
 
You can be happy that many small businesses and their owners can support themselves and stay in business.

So for that, you should "like" X-mas.
That can be applied to anything. Fracking is giving me cheaper gasoline. Illegal immigration is giving me cheap lettuce.
 
Do you actually *LIKE* Christmas?

Me: No, I do not. It's inconvenient. It's shallow. I just consider it to be a major pain in the arse, and always look forward to afterward. The passing of Christmas means spring is around the corner, not unlike the Super Bowl signifying that football is finally done and Spring Training is just a few weeks away.

Now, I will happily take paid vacation days. I may be a grump, but I'm not dumb. :lol:

We in the Church of which I'm a member don't celebrate Christmas - or Easter or Halloween, for that matter. We do not believe that any of them are Biblical. Besides, would God really consider commercialized holidays as glorifying Him? I don't think so.
 
We in the Church of which I'm a member don't celebrate Christmas - or Easter or Halloween, for that matter. We do not believe that any of them are Biblical. Besides, would God really consider commercialized holidays as glorifying Him? I don't think so.

I don't go to your church, but I think you're right about the holidays not being Biblical and that god wouldn't consider commercial holidays as glorifying him (or her as the case may be).

Holidays are a time of tradition, nothing more. Unfortunately, Christmas has become a time of the tradition of lots of people feeling pressured to spend money that they don't have, then trying to pretend that they feel joy when they actually are glad when the whole thing is over.
 
Christmas is a family/friends social event and worthwhile for that reason. All are usually in a good mood and reaching out and giving. There is some good motivation underlying the holiday. Satisfactory results. Christmas cards are a little thing, but mostly convey a genuine sentiment in a World increasingly disconnected socially. Lots of electronic social, but we need some hugs.
 
I don't go to your church, but I think you're right about the holidays not being Biblical and that god wouldn't consider commercial holidays as glorifying him (or her as the case may be).

Holidays are a time of tradition, nothing more. Unfortunately, Christmas has become a time of the tradition of lots of people feeling pressured to spend money that they don't have, then trying to pretend that they feel joy when they actually are glad when the whole thing is over.
I even question that, anymore.


Christmas is a family/friends social event and worthwhile for that reason. All are usually in a good mood and reaching out and giving. There is some good motivation underlying the holiday. Satisfactory results. Christmas cards are a little thing, but mostly convey a genuine sentiment in a World increasingly disconnected socially. Lots of electronic social, but we need some hugs.
Fair point, but I find the family gatherings to be overly stressful.
 
Do you actually *LIKE* Christmas?

Me: No, I do not. It's inconvenient. It's shallow. I just consider it to be a major pain in the arse, and always look forward to afterward. The passing of Christmas means spring is around the corner, not unlike the Super Bowl signifying that football is finally done and Spring Training is just a few weeks away.

Now, I will happily take paid vacation days. I may be a grump, but I'm not dumb. :lol:

Your not dumb. But if you enjoyed Christmas, you'd have more fun.
 
The commercial aspect of Christmas is for children. If one has young children and an adequate pocket book, it's fun. It a parent is struggling to buy the latest Star Wars figurines, light sabers and tricycles without the funds, I think it can be heartbreaking for parents. Kids?? They can be pretty much happy with anything if brought up right. JMVHO.

I like the grown up parts. It's like thanksgiving with carols and a tree, where it shouldn't be.
 
I like Christmas. I do, however, tend to avoid the more overly commercial aspects of it. It's mostly just an occasion to spend some quality time with my family, and exchange a few gifts.

I'm cool with that. :shrug:
 
Christmas is commercialism's bastard child. And to think that Christ wasn't even born on Christmas makes it even more absurd. Hail to Sol Invictus. The entire idea that one must go out and purchase Chinese garbage to haul to the landfill every year is stupidity at its most Darwinian. I do, however, participate each year in this embarrassing holiday for the sake of family. Anyhow, I don't think anyone died this year during Black Friday. According to BlackFridayDeathCount.com (yes, there is an actual website for this) 7 people have died, and 98 have been injured.

South Park lol
 
My Christmas "Time Line" which is very ordinary and seems like a no brainer.

Youth - Loved Christmas, Presents man! Presents. (And more grudgingly the religious aspects).
Young Adult - I was meh about Christmas. I was seriously on the road to leaving behind my religious roots and the rest just seemed commercial.
Pre-Parenthood Adult - I was lonely. Christmas made me feel lonelier. I did it mostly for my parents' love of the holiday.
Now - I love Christmas for my daughter. It brings her so much joy and makes her so very happy (I don't generally get to spend it with her because she's on the other side of the country BUT when I talk to her she is so excited about holidays and after I send her a tablet this year I should get to see her happiness more too).
My parents are still alive (though past the middle of their 70s) and love Christmas so I also enjoy it because it brings them joy.
 
My Christmas "Time Line" which is very ordinary and seems like a no brainer.

Youth - Loved Christmas, Presents man! Presents. (And more grudgingly the religious aspects).
Young Adult - I was meh about Christmas. I was seriously on the road to leaving behind my religious roots and the rest just seemed commercial.
Pre-Parenthood Adult - I was lonely. Christmas made me feel lonelier. I did it mostly for my parents' love of the holiday.
Now - I love Christmas for my daughter. It brings her so much joy and makes her so very happy (I don't generally get to spend it with her because she's on the other side of the country BUT when I talk to her she is so excited about holidays and after I send her a tablet this year I should get to see her happiness more too).
My parents are still alive (though past the middle of their 70s) and love Christmas so I also enjoy it because it brings them joy.

Hmmmm.. maybe that's what the season is really about, bringing joy to others and sharing in their happiness.

No, no can't be. That doesn't sell enough merchandise.
 
I really love Christmas.

I'm not religious at all but it's an excuse to get together with family, put a big tree up, get some days off, watch crappy TV and play board games together. It inevitably ends up with us at each others throats but the best part is that it only happens once a year so I've got all that time to get over the trauma.
 
Love Xmas- its the time of year where I do nothing but visit friends and family + get lotsa gifts + get stuffed + get drunk = Happy PoS! :mrgreen:
 
I like going to parties, spending time with my family and seeing how excited my kids get etc. I have no time however for adults who are running around like it's the end of days.
 
Do you actually *LIKE* Christmas?

Me: No, I do not. It's inconvenient. It's shallow. I just consider it to be a major pain in the arse, and always look forward to afterward. The passing of Christmas means spring is around the corner, not unlike the Super Bowl signifying that football is finally done and Spring Training is just a few weeks away.

Now, I will happily take paid vacation days. I may be a grump, but I'm not dumb. :lol:

I don't have any strong feelings about the holiday itself, same as I feel about most other holidays.

Left to my own devices, I don't usually do holiday stuff. Hell, some years I've damn near forgotten my own birthday. I also generally get annoyed by overly elaborate holiday stuff. Don't really see the point -- I try to just be nice to people every day, and if I'm gonna get someone a gift, I'm not going to wait until an approved day to give it to them. I also sort of resent the concept of compulsory gifts.

I live with a friend who just loves all things "holiday." As you can imagine, I'm getting dragged around a lot and will be later today as well. :lol:

But there is one thing unique to Christmas that makes me a little more disposed to it than most holidays.

When I was a traveler, I always knew when it was Christmas whether I was paying attention to the calendar or not. Because everyone I knew would suddenly leave town. For those few years, Christmas was associating with being alone for the day -- even in the streets. When everyone you know and have physical access to is relatively new to your life, you're never on the list of people they see during the holidays.

Other travelers sometimes get together to do dinner and have bittersweet tears about their missing loved ones. I'd been to a couple of those. But inevitably, it had the air of something we did for solidarity in our homesickness.

It meant more to get to do the holidays with my dad again, even though usually all we did was eat pizza and trade gag gifts.

It's taken on more meaning still since I've lost the entirety of my genetic family.

I've been "adopted" by several little clans and families since then. And it's not so much that I care more about holidays. What it is, is that people want to include me.

I'm not the easiest person to include. I take my time getting close to people and, as I said, I'm not a big holiday-doer. I am neither prone to pretending I'm closer to someone than I am, nor do I like to insert myself into other people's clans. Cattish, some consider me.

So I'm still not a big holiday-doer. I don't do pomp and circumstance, and I'd still forget if someone didn't remind me.

But it warms the cockles of my cold little heart that I get invited to so many things on the holidays. Hell, even not on the holidays, but the density of how often it happens is certainly much higher around this time of year. Seeing people being kind to each other with no motive or obligation is sweet.

And maybe, in theory, that's what the holidays are supposed to actually be about. Sure, it doesn't actually matter whether it happens on December 25th or August 12th, but, well... it doesn't mean any less if it happens on December 25th either.

It's easy to forget that when seeing Aunt Sue and enduring her terrible turkey is just a thing you've always done, like doing the laundry. It's easy to forget when it's full of expectation that you need to get a gift for that second cousin you met once at a wedding 10 years ago. But when none of it's routine and nothing is expected except having a good time, it's different.

You don't forget so easy when people have to go out of their way to bring you in.

In some ways, being the young adult orphan really teaches you a lot about how good humanity can be and gives you a reason why you should be a nice person too.
 
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