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Catch the lie!

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Catch the lie!

Read this and report back if the story headline is true or misleading. In your estimation.

Yeah, misleading isn't uncommon, but this example seems especially egregious.

A fine example of journalistic integrity? Misleading as hell. Surprised that PepsiCo hasn't complained about it.
 
Calling 999? is that an actual emergency number like 911 is in America?

And then there is this questionable line:

‘One of the side-effects of the drugs was that she had a very dry mouth and Pepsi Max was what she liked to drink’, she said.

so apparently she was taking drugs while she was drinking Pepsi.

i think they're just scapegoating Pepsi and is that the lie you are referring to?
 
a woman dying from mixing pills and alcohol makes for terrible clickbait
 
a woman dying from mixing pills and alcohol makes for terrible clickbait

You'd think the fiction writer (no I won't call them a journalist) would have hesitated to post that.
You'd think that Yahoo editors would have hesitated to allow that to be posted on their site.

Yeah, this seems like a complete FUBAR. But I think you get that much more than you'd suspect.
 
She was an alcoholic AND doing prescription meds. Which probably did cause dry mouth. She had a heart attack (very common).

Oh: life experience: I lost one friend at 29 and another at 32, for the same reasons.
 
Catch the lie!

Read this and report back if the story headline is true or misleading. In your estimation.

Yeah, misleading isn't uncommon, but this example seems especially egregious.

Well it's not really any more misleading than your OPs title. The comment in their title about the Pepsi Max isn't a lie, and apparently they are considering the extreme levels of caffeine as one of the issues. Is it unfair to only mention the Pepsi? Perhaps. Is it a lie? Not at all.
 
Catch the lie!

Read this and report back if the story headline is true or misleading. In your estimation.

Yeah, misleading isn't uncommon, but this example seems especially egregious.

That has to be one of the worst written articles I've read in some time.

"Mum Died After Drinking EIGHT Litres Of Pepsi Max Every Day"

Well...

"A mum-of-one tragically after drinking up to EIGHT litres of Pepsi Max a day, an inquest heard."

Actually...

She "died from a mixture of “excessive” caffeine consumption and prescription drugs"

Wait, there is more...

She "would guzzle up to four two-litre bottles of Pepsi Max and one litre of Vodka every day, alongside medication for anxiety."
 
Well it's not really any more misleading than your OPs title. The comment in their title about the Pepsi Max isn't a lie, and apparently they are considering the extreme levels of caffeine as one of the issues. Is it unfair to only mention the Pepsi? Perhaps. Is it a lie? Not at all.
It's a "lie by omission", meaning that the writers knew damn well there was a lot more going on than just Pepsi, and when used in this context a "lie by omission" is equal to an outright lie.
 
Catch the lie!

Read this and report back if the story headline is true or misleading. In your estimation.

Yeah, misleading isn't uncommon, but this example seems especially egregious.

It's click bait.
Crazy thing is though, journalism hasn't ever been about truth and honesty.
Just add dollars and eye balls.
 
It's click bait.
Crazy thing is though, journalism hasn't ever been about truth and honesty.
Just add dollars and eye balls.
I know, and I'll admit I fell for it. I accept some "creative license", but this was too much, hence my posting here for public ridicule.
 
I know, and I'll admit I fell for it. I accept some "creative license", but this was too much, hence my posting here for public ridicule.

Political journalism is even worse.
Ever see this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JournoList

Right, left it doesn't matter there is very little true unbiased/nonclickbait/intently truthful journalism.

Best thing to do is compile multiple sources, to get close to the truth.
 
It's a "lie by omission", meaning that the writers knew damn well there was a lot more going on than just Pepsi, and when used in this context a "lie by omission" is equal to an outright lie.

No, it's just normal journalism, ... use a headline that entices readers' curiosity. I stand by my comparison of your title to theirs. If they are liars, so are you. Actually you are a tad more guilty as you completely misuse the word "lie," whereas they didn't really do that at all, just didn't put every possible cause in the headline.
 
No, it's just normal journalism, ... use a headline that entices readers' curiosity. I stand by my comparison of your title to theirs. If they are liars, so are you. Actually you are a tad more guilty as you completely misuse the word "lie," whereas they didn't really do that at all, just didn't put every possible cause in the headline.

You're being a ridiculous apologist. It's times like this that I swear people take a ludicrous stance on the internet just so they can hear themselves argue. Anyway, if we condone and accept such low standards, as you are doing here, then I guess we deserve low results. The journalism bar keeps sinking and we're ok with that.

After reading the article... and I am presuming you DID read it, though your stance brings that into question... do you truly and honestly believe that Pepsi was the predominant factor in her death? Somebody said that, but the writer didn't bother to provide any substantiating evidence.

And in your last sentence where you say they "...didn't put every possible cause in the headline." you confirm they lied-by-omission. They didn't put ANY other possible cause in their headline, least of all the more probable causes. It's pretty standard common knowledge that mixing medications and large quantities is a known danger. THAT's the story, not some questionable theory regarding soda and caffeine.
 
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