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Forming a brave new world..

Infinite Chaos

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Imagine there was a new world discovered (not too far away) with exactly the same laws of physics and all other things remaining equal but a new international / multinational society could go there and create laws or a constitution by which all men and women who go there could live and agree governance. There are no brand new beasts or diseases beyond what we could take there.

What laws and elements of a constitution would you like to see?

Should (any) religion be brought over across space to this new world? Why?

Should there be laws or any limits on self protection / Why? (Should we allow guns / weapons and what limits if any?)

Should there be any form of philosophy of a society? Should it be every man / woman for themselves?

What inalienable rights should people have? Why?

How and who should pay for those things usually seen as society costs? (Education / cleaning / local government / health etc) Why?

What system of government should there be? Why?

What system of penalties or law enforcement and how should this force be armed (or not) and limited? Why?

Thanks in advance: to explain the premise, I read a lot of threads and see a lot of "cultural baggage" when people are discussing certain things and I sometimes wonder whether a different perspective might allow people to review their long held beliefs and views.
 
I'd raise an army and immediately leave to claim as much territory as I could. I would be the law, our military might would be the only "right," and all services would be provided by my vassals and slaves. Survival of the fittest; it's the natural state of all mankind. And the funny part is, I know I could raise this army, fully financed, in but a matter of weeks.

Not to completely disparage, rights can be negotiated. I would begin with, "You have the right to live, if..." and we'd proceed from there. From this one initial premise we will begin through a process of negotiation to attract settlers; possession after-all is 9/10s the of the law, we therefore need settlers.

Religion is an absolute necessity, yes. Whether we transport it or not is immaterial; the people will create one regardless. Which is precsiely what occurred in America; the religion that was presented here in settlement was an entirely new religion that developed over decades.
 
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I'd raise an army and immediately leave to claim as much territory as I could. I would be the law, our military might would be the only "right," and all services would be provided by my vassals and slaves. Survival of the fittest; it's the natural state of all mankind. And the funny part is, I know I could raise this army, fully financed, in but a matter of weeks.

Not to completely disparage, rights can be negotiated. I would begin with, "You have the right to live, if..." and we'd proceed from there. From this one initial premise we will begin through a process of negotiation to attract settlers; possession after-all is 9/10s the of the law, we therefore need settlers.

Religion is an absolute necessity, yes. Whether we transport it or not is immaterial; the people will create one regardless. Which is precsiely what occurred in America; the religion that was presented here in settlement was an entirely new religion that developed over decades.

Funny, I had thought people might contribute elements of their national constitution but I guess I never imagined the "Genghis Khan" approach to creating a new colony.
 
Funny, I had thought people might contribute elements of their national constitution but I guess I never imagined the "Genghis Khan" approach to creating a new colony.

They can if they like but I'm going to take that territory from them and rip up their constitutions, so...? Somewhat of an exercise in futility, don't ya think? Slaves are good, though. What women would not like a few slaves? And you know I'm going to have a few women right?
 
They can if they like but I'm going to take that territory from them and rip up their constitutions, so...? Somewhat of an exercise in futility, don't ya think? Slaves are good, though. What women would not like a few slaves? And you know I'm going to have a few women right?

Well, like I said before I had intended to discuss different elements of different constitutions. the other premise for the thread wouldn't have worked which was as if a country was being carved out on our existing earth but I felt it would be hopelessly lost by discussion of the affects of being near another existing country / culture.

Nevermind, the "Genghis Khan" approach is just as valid as a discussion on creating a brand new constitution for a brand new society.
 
Well, like I said before I had intended to discuss different elements of different constitutions. the other premise for the thread wouldn't have worked which was as if a country was being carved out on our existing earth but I felt it would be hopelessly lost by discussion of the affects of being near another existing country / culture.

Nevermind, the "Genghis Khan" approach is just as valid as a discussion on creating a brand new constitution for a brand new society.

Baby steps... first we own the territory, then we negotiate. Henry II was the first in the western world to attempt such a liberal doctrine.
 
Should be treated like the wild west or any frontier. A free for all. Not having a gun to kill potential predators or criminals on the frontier is retarded. Betuadollar would be killed within a week, either by his own men or another army. People willing to move to a different planet and leave everything behind are the type of people who shoot back, afterall
 
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