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Need help with a title for my paper

let em bleed


apologies to the rolling stones
 
Any fresh ideas, Superfly?
 
nota bene said:
Any fresh ideas, Superfly?
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Not really. I am really liking a couple of them, though, and will probably end up with one of them. I just haven't had much time to do anything.

Had to finish a small paper on Einstein and Uranium this weekend. Sheesh, the more you know. :shrug:
 
Superfly said:
This is not an argument for or against the war, or what has happened / is happening to the Vets.

I just need help with a title and a subtitle.

Thanks in advance, if anyone has any good ideas.
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Just as with radioman, my first thoughts went to music.

Pete Seeger's story behind "Where Have All the Flowers Gone"
Still one of my favorite songs as done by Peter, Paul, and Mary.

I was only 14-YO in 1968 when my future older Vietnam buddies were being drafted because they didn't have a 2S deferment.
Or some other "in" to get out of the draft--all very contentious to this day.
When I went to AFEES in Chicago in late 1971, I was ruled 1H and was #32--but I wasn't drafted during the election year of 1972.
Since the draft ended in 1972--just so happened there was no 2S deferment that year either for the first time--so cynical, yeah.

Throughout the years teaching, I often used the song "The Needle And The Damage Done" by Neil Young with the kids during "talk" time.
We'd replace the word "needle" with other appropriate words, like "alcohol" and "cigarettes" and dozens of others--along with acknowledging "needle".

My Dad did multiple TDYs to Vietnam during the end of his Air Force career to do supply and escort fallen soldiers to their families.
So thanks for letting me "ramble on"--Led Zeppelin--LZ being a Vietnam favorite with the Stones and Steppenwolf.

I'll leave you this positive note from 60 minutes tonight.
Duke University is currently using immunotherapy to treat brain cancer with injections of the POLIO virus right into the cancer.
The results over the last few years are very promising and they're about a year away from FDA approval for going on a macro scale nationwide.
Polio to treat cancer? Scott Pelley reports on Duke clinical trial - CBS News
 
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NIMBY said:
Just as with radioman, my first thoughts went to music.

Pete Seeger's story behind "Where Have All the Flowers Gone"
Still one of my favorite songs as done by Peter, Paul, and Mary.

I was only 14-YO in 1968 when my future older Vietnam buddies were being drafted because they didn't have a 2S deferment.
Or some other "in" to get out of the draft--all very contentious to this day.
When I went to AFEES in Chicago in late 1971, I was ruled 1H and was #32--but I wasn't drafted during the election year of 1972.
Since the draft ended in 1972--just so happened there was no 2S deferment that year either for the first time--so cynical, yeah.

Throughout the years teaching, I often used the song "The Needle And The Damage Done" by Neil Young with the kids during "talk" time.
We'd replace the word "needle" with other appropriate words, like "alcohol" and "cigarettes" and dozens of others--along with acknowledging "needle".

My Dad did multiple TDYs to Vietnam during the end of his Air Force career to do supply and escort fallen soldiers to their families.
So thanks for letting me "ramble on"--Led Zeppelin--LZ being a Vietnam favorite with the Stones and Steppenwolf.

I'll leave you this positive note from 60 minutes tonight.
Duke University is currently using immunotherapy to treat bran cancer with injections of the POLIO virus right into the cancer.
The results over the last few years are very promising and they're about a year away from FDA approval for going on a macro scale nationwide.
Polio to treat cancer? Scott Pelley reports on Duke clinical trial - CBS News
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Wow - interesting, and had no idea! And thanks for your Dad's service. :)
 
If you ever get the chance, it's an easy search to track down the 1927 photo of the Modern Physicists--Einstein is front and center.
The only woman--Madame Marie Curie--is two to the left.

The "history" of modern chemistry and physics is quite fascinating--
starting with Brahe in the late 1500s along with Kepler then Newton--though now I look back to da Vinci.

Each new scientist built on the previous ones with the culmination being the Nuclear age and the Modern Periodic Table--from my POV .

Superfly said:
Not really. I am really liking a couple of them, though, and will probably end up with one of them. I just haven't had much time to do anything.

Had to finish a small paper on Einstein and Uranium this weekend. Sheesh, the more you know. :shrug:
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Superfly said:
Wow - interesting, and had no idea! And thanks for your Dad's service. :)
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We still miss him dearly--he would be 87 today.
We celebrate as a family with Mum every Palm Sunday--about 24 of us total--she's British you know--bombing of London and all that.
Which is why I try to catch our Aussie friends on here--my Mother's sister and her large family there .
 
No Fortunate Sons:
The Toxic Deception of Vietnam Veterans


Or, We Gotta Get Out of This Place

Or one I'd love to use - ****ed Over, ****ed Up and Forgotten: Vietnam Vets and the War's Toxic Legacy


We've talked about it at length, darlin', and I know the topic comes from your heart.

From overloading quinine tablets for malaria, to asbestos, to Agent Orange, to questionable but required inoculations and on and on. It continues today. The toxic mix US military men and women are or have been exposed to in war zones is often the second war veterans have to fight, after they come home and after they are often initially denied treatment.

Good luck on your paper. I'm sure you will do well.
 
Superfly said:
OK, let me start by saying if you are going to come in and give me a hard time, please just back out now.

I need help with a title and subtitle for a paper I have to write. I am having no issue with the paper itself, but I like big, catchy titles, and right now, I'm drawing a blank.

The paper is going to be about the young soldiers in the Vietnam war. How they were drafted so young, how they couldn't even vote but had to go to a war that no one understood. It's also about how they were constantly around toxins that ended up making them very sick, and also made their children sick. The last part will be about how the soldiers, once they came home, were treated poorly, and are still, to this day, homeless, hungry and receiving very little help.

This is not an argument for or against the war, or what has happened / is happening to the Vets.

I just need help with a title and a subtitle.

Thanks in advance, if anyone has any good ideas.
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Out of the Frying Pan, and Into the Fire
Injustices Faced by Young Recruits and Returning Veterans of the Vietnam War.

A tad cliche, perhaps. However, it's an idea, and one that's likely to catch the attention of whomever happens to be reading. :shrug:
 
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NIMBY said:
If you ever get the chance, it's an easy search to track down the 1927 photo of the Modern Physicists--Einstein is front and center.
The only woman--Madame Marie Curie--is two to the left.

The "history" of modern chemistry and physics is quite fascinating--
starting with Brahe in the late 1500s along with Kepler then Newton--though now I look back to da Vinci.

Each new scientist built on the previous ones with the culmination being the Nuclear age and the Modern Periodic Table--from my POV .
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Will look into that when I have time to read for pleasure. Hoping that will be in about a month. My final, which is actually this paper, is due on Cinco de Mayo! Must celebrate with a margarita, or ten, when it's finished. :D

I just find it so ironic that Einstein had such a hand in the early stages of the atom bomb, yet he was a lifelong pacifist. The most dangerous weapon in the world, and a pacifist helped build it. Wow.
 
Risky Thicket said:
No Fortunate Sons:
The Toxic Deception of Vietnam Veterans


Or, We Gotta Get Out of This Place

Or one I'd love to use - ****ed Over, ****ed Up and Forgotten: Vietnam Vets and the War's Toxic Legacy
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You know - my history teacher would probably just love that. He's young, swears in class alot and stuff.

We've talked about it at length, darlin', and I know the topic comes from your heart.

From overloading quinine tablets for malaria, to asbestos, to Agent Orange, to questionable but required inoculations and on and on. It continues today. The toxic mix US military men and women are or have been exposed to in war zones is often the second war veterans have to fight, after they come home and after they are often initially denied treatment.

Good luck on your paper. I'm sure you will do well.
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Thanks, and yes it does come from my heart. When I approached my professor with my topic, I was afraid he'd tell me no, because he knew how knowledgable I already was on the subject. I was afraid he'd want me to go in a direction where I would learn something new. Quite the contrary, though - he said that with my background, I should write a fantastic paper. Funny, he didn't even know about all the other chemicals (agent white, agent pink, etc), didn't know where the colors (meaning the names) came from, nor did he know that Agent Orange was built with two chemicals - and probably listed that way by the military so you just couldn't find out that easily. When my husband told me he'd been in contact with it, I couldn't find anywhere in his paperwork that he'd been near it. Then I looked up the chemicals that make up AO, and there they were, in living color (pardon the pun), listed separately. :)
 
Gathomas88 said:
Out of the Frying Pan, and Into the Fire
Injustices Faced by Young Recruits and Returning Veterans of the Vietnam War.

A tad cliche, perhaps. However, it's an idea, and one that's likely to catch the attention of whomever happens to be reading. :shrug:
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thanks! I like it!
 
How about:

The Illusion of Sacrifice
Patriotism and Societal Rejection During the Vietnam War Era
 
Superfly said:
Will look into that when I have time to read for pleasure. Hoping that will be in about a month.
My final, which is actually this paper, is due on Cinco de Mayo! Must celebrate with a margarita, or ten, when it's finished. :D
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Speaking of Margaritas, I ran into a couple of Mangos out of a can a few nights ago--my buddy spiked the first one with some vodka--WOW.
As for Cinco de Mayo, I won't be going to Vegas until a couple of weeks after that date while the dust is clearing.

I just find it so ironic that Einstein had such a hand in the early stages of the atom bomb, yet he was a lifelong pacifist.
The most dangerous weapon in the world, and a pacifist helped build it. Wow.
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One of Einstein's books was " E = mc[SUP]2[/SUP] -- the equation of death".
There's a part of me that does believe that the true geniuses like Einstein have been visited supernaturally.

I'm always happy to see older parents go back to college--you set a great example for your teenagers also.
This has been a great thread for me--thank you--memories, fun, and a few tears .
 
NIMBY said:
Speaking of Margaritas, I ran into a couple of Mangos out of a can a few nights ago--my buddy spiked the first one with some vodka--WOW.
As for Cinco de Mayo, I won't be going to Vegas until a couple of weeks after that date while the dust is clearing.



One of Einstein's books was " E = mc[SUP]2[/SUP] -- the equation of death".
There's a part of me that does believe that the true geniuses like Einstein have been visited supernaturally.

I'm always happy to see older parents go back to college--you set a great example for your teenagers also.
This has been a great thread for me--thank you--memories, fun, and a few tears .
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Thanks, Nimby. I appreciate that. I really do.
 
A Homecoming Fit For Heroes?
How America Didn't Thank It's Troops For Their Service

Missing Saigon: How the homecoming was worse than the war

My Lie: How Vietnam vets were deceived by America



Any good?
 
Andalublue said:
A Homecoming Fit For Heroes?
How America Didn't Thank It's Troops For Their Service

Missing Saigon: How the homecoming was worse than the war

My Lie: How Vietnam vets were deceived by America



Any good?
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Like that one - nice take on My Lai. Thanks!
 
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