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Minnesota Restaurant Charges Customers “Minimum Wage Fee” to Offset New Pay Laws

Tacky. If the fee wasn't mentioned up-front on the menu, I'd refuse to pay it. If it was mentioned up-front on the menu, I'd go somewhere else. In any case, they'd lose me as a customer... permanently.
 
Eh, I don't see the big deal. It's .35 cents. I'm all for minimum wage increases, but the money has to come from somewhere, and if they don't charge .35 cents a ticket, they're going to increase the price of food, and that will cost a lot more than a couple of coins.
 
Superfly said:
Eh, I don't see the big deal. It's .35 cents. I'm all for minimum wage increases, but the money has to come from somewhere, and if they don't charge .35 cents a ticket, they're going to increase the price of food, and that will cost a lot more than a couple of coins.
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... there was a president of the university who just cut his salary by $90,000 a year so every every minimum wage worker could have a cost of living adjustment. Salaries of the better paid personnel (specifically the owners, executives, and shareholders) are where the money is supposed to come from. If the money won't trickle down then you have to squeeze.
 
This is why I dont believe in minimum wage, the more you raise people's salaries businesses will raise their prices so its one step forward one step back.
 
Paying min wage means we need to abolish Tipping.

Whiny, lazy, money grubbing maggots what a server is...

Only thing worse is a bartender...
 
ChezC3 said:
Paying min wage means we need to abolish Tipping.

Whiny, lazy, money grubbing maggots what a server is...

Only thing worse is a bartender...
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I disagree, I'd glad there is an incentive for good service.

In regards to the OP and the story, it would be less controversial if he just raised his prices. That said, I rather applaud the overt "you're gonna pay for it one way or the other" thumbing your nose.
 
Lachean said:
I disagree, I'd glad there is an incentive for good service.

In regards to the OP and the story, it would be less controversial if he just raised his prices. That said, I rather applaud the overt "you're gonna pay for it one way or the other" thumbing your nose.
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I agree I wouldn't have done what he did. I'd have adjusted my prices. Next I would have called my printer and had all new menus made which omitted the "18% gratuity for parties of 6 or more"

This doesn't change the fact that servers are whiny, lazy, money grubbing maggots and the reason why they got the pay they did was because of tip differential. Further, busboys, bartenders, and barbacks also get paid below min wage because they all are tipped out.


**This is also going to either screw the servers or screw the IRS. Why? Most places tax their servers off sales, to account for income from tips, this is then deducted from their paychecks leaving many with a considerable less tax burden. What happens now? Getting min wage and taxed for it plus taxing their tips off sales? Or is that no longer going to be required?
 
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Lachean said:
I disagree, I'd glad there is an incentive for good service.
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If it was an incentive, I wouldn't say, but most servers think they're owed a tip, no matter how well they perform their job. A tip is supposed to be extra, paid for exceptional service above and beyond the call of duty. I rarely ever see anything like that, but the server still has their hand out.
 
radcen said:
Minnesota Restaurant Charges Customers “Minimum Wage Fee” to Offset New Pay Laws

Minnesota restaurant charges “minimum wage fee” on bill.
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Since this is or will happen in Minnesota, or other midwest states, it's not that bad, but if they tried this out east or in far western states, restaurants might lose some biz over it. The only other thing to do would be to raise meal prices on the menu.

Dining out is expensive anyways, IMHO.
 
Lachean said:
I disagree, I'd glad there is an incentive for good service.
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In which case why does it only apply to a tiny subset of workers. If "low pay plus tips" is such a good system to incentivise good service, why isn't it extended to all other customer facing workers? How about if your pay was cut by a third and you had to earn tips to (try to) cover the difference?
 
Increasing the minum wage to 10$ per hour will affect everybody. those formerly making 10$ an hour will demand raises as "not a minimum wage employee".
Those making more than 10$ will also want raises because now lower ranking positions are making THEIR salary. Ect, Ect.
eventually and soon, prices for goods and services will escalate. 10$ will be lucky to buy what 7$ bought a few months past.

The only winners is the government and politicians. Everybody pays more income tax and not a single politician had to vote for a tax increase..

A better plan is a new dollar worth 20 old dollars. exchange at bank. Sure everybody takes home less, pays less tax cause in lower tax bracket. and the gap between the wealthiest and middle class narrows. A 2014 dollar is worth a nickel of 1970 dollar. Turn back the clock and the national debt would also be reduced by 95%.

But set min wage at 1970 min. 2$ per hour. two NEW dollars. Those with 20 million dollars would still be millionairs with one million.

Mexico issued new pesos, France new francs, Germany new marks. Our turn.

And a 500,000$ house would cost 25,000$. Think of the construction boom!
and gasoline 17 cents a gallon.
 
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If i ever went into a restaurant and saw that Bull**** id walk my ass right out, that's just cheap and pathetic...

If your a business owner and having a problem paying folks a decent wage, then shut your **** down, im not gonna patronize it, id go eat a hot dog at 7-11 , before i eat there, food probably sucks anyways..
 
Morality Games said:
... there was a president of the university who just cut his salary by $90,000 a year so every every minimum wage worker could have a cost of living adjustment. Salaries of the better paid personnel (specifically the owners, executives, and shareholders) are where the money is supposed to come from. If the money won't trickle down then you have to squeeze.
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Yes, I'm going to take a pay cut because the government forced me to pay my workers more. In the land of oz that might be something I would do, but not in this reality.
 
ARTHUR 1976 said:
If i ever went into a restaurant and saw that Bull**** id walk my ass right out, that's just cheap and pathetic...

If your a business owner and having a problem paying folks a decent wage, then shut your **** down, im not gonna patronize it, id go eat a hot dog at 7-11 , before i eat there, food probably sucks anyways..
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Then I will just increase the price of the food because of it. All you are really saying is that you don't like transparency. If that is the case I'm perfectly fine with not being upfront with you.

Do you think the price of your 7-11 hot dog isn't affected by workers salaries? Hint: It is.
 
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Henrin said:
Then I will just increase the price of the food because of it. All you are really saying is that you don't like transparency. If that is the case I'm perfectly fine with not being upfront with you.

Do you think the price of your 7-11 hot dog isn't affected by workers salaries? Hint: It is.
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Go ahead and raise your food prices you will just drive yourself outta business, LOL, you wanna pay peanuts, fine i hope as a businees owner your fine with a constant turnover rate, low productivity and morale, and a general i don't give. a phuck attitude among your employees, what do they have to lose a minimum wage job?? LOL...
 
ARTHUR 1976 said:
Go ahead and raise your food prices you will just drive yourself outta business, LOL, you wanna pay peanuts, fine i hope as a businees owner your fine with a constant turnover rate, low productivity and morale, and a general i don't give. a phuck attitude among your employees, what do they have to lose a minimum wage job?? LOL...
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Do you really think moving the .35 charge to the price of the food will run me out of business? What do you think every other business is doing exactly?
 
Cephus said:
If it was an incentive, I wouldn't say, but most servers think they're owed a tip, no matter how well they perform their job. A tip is supposed to be extra, paid for exceptional service above and beyond the call of duty. I rarely ever see anything like that, but the server still has their hand out.
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I do not know about where you live but in many states pay the federal minimum wage for tipped workers is $2.13 an hour and are expected to make up the difference in tips and they are taxed as though they are making 7.25 an hour. So unless they got some really generous customers the tips they receive are not extra.
 
Henrin said:
Yes, I'm going to take a pay cut because the government forced me to pay my workers more. In the land of oz that might be something I would do, but not in this reality.
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I do not think libs are aware of how business works.The cost of doing business is passed onto the customer.If prices of materials go up,its passed onto the customers.If taxes go up its passed onto the customer. If labor goes up its passed onto the customer. If utilities and fuel costs go up then that cost is passed onto the customer. The only way the people on top are taking a pay cut is if the business is failing and in which case the business will eventually close.
 
Superfly said:
Eh, I don't see the big deal. It's .35 cents. I'm all for minimum wage increases, but the money has to come from somewhere, and if they don't charge .35 cents a ticket, they're going to increase the price of food, and that will cost a lot more than a couple of coins.
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Here's the part that everybody in the thread has missed so far... the wage went up for everybody, all of his competitors as well, not just him. Hence, he did not lose any sort of competitive advantage in any way, shape, or form. His competitors will either raise prices or will suck it up, but each will do so according to their own individual ability and marketing strategy.

What this guy is doing by adding the surcharge is making a political statement. No more, no less.

Personally, I think it's horrible marketing on his part. One, I just want a good meal, I don't want to make a political statement when I eat. Two, it would make me the customer feel unappreciated as I'm the one being nickle-and-dimed over the issue. So, no, just show me the price of the food, and let me eat in peace.
 
Minnesota Restaurant Charges Customers “Minimum Wage Fee” to Offset New Pay Laws
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Don't go to the restaurant if you disagree with their practice. Problem solved.
 
jamesrage said:
I do not think libs are aware of how business works.The cost of doing business is passed onto the customer.If prices of materials go up,its passed onto the customers.If taxes go up its passed onto the customer. If labor goes up its passed onto the customer. If utilities and fuel costs go up then that cost is passed onto the customer. The only way the people on top are taking a pay cut is if the business is failing and in which case the business will eventually close.
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Well than as a customer i will find another business to support, that more suits my financial needs, Liberals understand perfectly how business works, they just believe workers should be paid a living wage for their hard work, that's not asking too much, if you wanna pay **** money expect a **** employee..
And if the owner doesn't wanna take.a pay cut, fine shut your business down i don't care, i will just shop some place else..
That's why cities like New York, and Frisco are telling junk places like Wal Mart to stay the F@ck out of our cities, because their cheap slave wage jobs, just put a heavy burden on those areas that have to pay out welfare and food stamps to those low.wage earners that don't make enough to live on..
 
Morality Games said:
... there was a president of the university who just cut his salary by $90,000 a year so every every minimum wage worker could have a cost of living adjustment. Salaries of the better paid personnel (specifically the owners, executives, and shareholders) are where the money is supposed to come from. If the money won't trickle down then you have to squeeze.
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it is so easy to give away OTHER people's money, isnt it?

so shareholders are supposed to pay for the wage hikes?

do you want investments to completely dry up?

the ONLY reason people invest money in companies is to get a return on that investment

otherwise...what is the point?

and maybe you should start a business, learn to run it, and learn what it takes to keep one going before trying to take money out of owners pockets

so many of you think every owner and executive make millions....

that couldnt be further from the truth

maybe you guys should get your noses out of the books...and into the REAL world

making a profit in this environment is freaking hard work.....
 
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