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George Zimmerman original painting on eBay

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No.
That is you trying trying to use a Copyright argument when it doesn't apply.
His painting is original. It did not exist before. You can not change that.

You have already been told.
You are confusing a Copyright violation (of originality) with (actual) originality.
(actual) Originality does not mean that things are not similar, or not a derivative.
Learn the difference.


Still unable to tell tell us which one he specifically used huh? Figures.

The shutter stock image may be, as it is a derivative of the original. Or did you not know a derivative could be Copyrighted?
The original, you know, the one he used on his donation site, was in the Creative Commons. And you do not know what permission, if any, he got then, when he used it.


And it is. And the example was used to show you how something can be a copy while still being an original.
But you obviously don't get that.
Just as the soup can was used to show the same.
And you still don't get it, but instead want to argue.
And you are arguing a Copyright argument when it doesn't apply.
The painting is an original painting. You can not get around that. It simply is.


:doh
Stop assuming you know what the guy did to get the image.
And a waving US flag is pretty much a waving US flag.
A simple image search proves that.
All red white and blue with stars and ripples in the cloth.
I am surprised you are not claiming that one photographer isn't stealing another's vision of the flag, or claiming that the others that came after the first, aren't original's, not significantly different or a copyright violation.

That fact that you are not, should go to show you that are unfairly and absurdly focused on Zimmerman over nothing.


No it is not.

That case was a "dealing with the fair use defense for parody". Is that what is happening here? It isn't. Figures.
The photo used in that case had a Copyright sticker on it and he purposely removed it.
The photo used in that case was not in the Creative Commons.
And as pointed out to you by the very article you used, "Copyright has never been an easy, black-and-white kind of issue". A different Judge may have found that case differently.

Just like the Judge who reversed their own decision on the Prince case. Those were slight modifications. But obviously sufficient enough to render them different.



You obviously do not understand the word "vision".
It was his vision.


No you can not, as there is no case here.
Do you not understand that?
There has been no claim by the author of a copyright violation.


Wrong. You have to have a judgement by the Court or and agreement that a violation occurred for there to have been an actual violation.



You clearly know not of what you speak.
The work was original.
And no, there was no settlement. Apparently you are listening to myths and rumors.

Here is a copy of the letter that Campbell's sent Warhol.
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Just more biased bs from you.
He has no bold face lies, or more accurately, no bald face lies, or a pattern of dishonesty.
Those are all just manifestations of your convoluted thoughts.

It is an original painting. And was his vision.



Title: George Zimmerman original painting
Is it an original painting, yes.
Is it a reproduction of another painting? No.

True statements by him; "First hand painted artwork by me, George Zimmerman."; "and I needed to put these visions onto the blank canvas as soon as possible".
There is nothing untrue about what he said.
Again, you are going in a long circuit just to muddle the simple issue here. Even if zimmerman had used the image from the Creative Commons, then you should know that by him claiming that this particular image of waving American flag came to him from some "visions" that he felt he had to immediately put it on the canvass is a bold face lie, right?

Don't you agree that if zimmerman were to say, "I got this "visual" image from Creative Commons in the internet and had to immediately transferred it onto the canvass, that would be more honest, right?

As to the Campbell letter, I had seen that long ago. Just because there is this amicable letter of support doesn't mean that case wasn't settled.
 
George Zimmerman original painting

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Current bid: US $99,966.00

George Zimmerman Original Painting | eBay

So maybe he becomes an artist?

The painting isn't that bad at all...

I actually kinda like it...

I'm skeptical because, people with that talent just don't pop out of the woodwork unless he actually is an artist...

Either way it's in bad taste.

No one would buy that thing for more than 50 bucks on the street so.

That is selling a name not a piece of art...

The best part is I bet no one actually bought it - they were just trolling shooting the price up while racking up his ebay fees (which would be pretty insane at least $5,000)...
 
Again, you are going in a long circuit just to muddle the simple issue here.
I haven't muddled anything. You are trying to by making a Copyright argument when it doesn't apply.
It is an original painting. Period.


Even if zimmerman had used the image from the Creative Commons, then you should know that by him claiming that this particular image of waving American flag came to him from some "visions" that he felt he had to immediately put it on the canvass is a bold face lie, right?
Wrong.
You are not right.
It was his vision that he put to canvass.


Don't you agree that if zimmerman were to say, "I got this "visual" image from Creative Commons in the internet and had to immediately transferred it onto the canvass, that would be more honest, right?
He wasn't dishonest, so there is no "more honest" about it.


As to the Campbell letter, I had seen that long ago. Just because there is this amicable letter of support doesn't mean that case wasn't settled.
Still trying to speak about that which you know not huh. Figures. :doh
 
Either way it's in bad taste.

No one would buy that thing for more than 50 bucks on the street so.

That is selling a name not a piece of art...

The best part is I bet no one actually bought it - they were just trolling shooting the price up while racking up his ebay fees (which would be pretty insane at least $5,000)...
As already mentioned, that Trent character has stated that he was bidding it up. I do not doubt that he was the highest bidder.
If he was, he was involved in a crime and I hope he is punished for it.

There were legitimate bidders. So I have no doubt there is interest in it.
Me, It isn't my fancy.
 
I haven't muddled anything. You are trying to by making a Copyright argument when it doesn't apply.
It is an original painting. Period.


Wrong.
You are not right.
It was his vision that he put to canvass.


He wasn't dishonest, so there is no "more honest" about it.


Still trying to speak about that which you know not huh. Figures. :doh
You are too personally invested in zimmerman that you have completely lost the ability to see things objectively and impartially. Heck, you can't even be logical nor reasonable in your argument.

The "visions" zimmerman lied about existed more than a decade ago and it belonged to some one else. Zimmerman stole somebody's work and falsely claimed it to be his own. He lied. That's what it is.
 
You are too personally invested in zimmerman that you have completely lost the ability to see things objectively and impartially. Heck, you can't even be logical nor reasonable in your argument.
This would be you looking in a mirror.


The "visions" zimmerman lied about existed more than a decade ago and it belonged to some one else. Zimmerman stole somebody's work and falsely claimed it to be his own. He lied. That's what it is.
Wrong.
The only one telling an untruth is you.

It is an original painting, and it was his vision.

You also obviously don't even know what a vision is, so I would suggest you stop speaking nonsense.


True statements by Zimmerman.
"First hand painted artwork by me, George Zimmerman."
&
"and I needed to put these visions onto the blank canvas as soon as possible".

Untrue statements by dolphinocean.
The "visions" zimmerman lied about existed more than a decade ago and it belonged to some one else.
Zimmerman stole somebody's work and falsely claimed it to be his own. He lied.
 
This would be you looking in a mirror.


Wrong.
The only one telling an untruth is you.

It is an original painting, and it was his vision.

You also obviously don't even know what a vision is, so I would suggest you stop speaking nonsense.


True statements by Zimmerman.
"First hand painted artwork by me, George Zimmerman."
&
"and I needed to put these visions onto the blank canvas as soon as possible".

Untrue statements by dolphinocean.
The "visions" zimmerman lied about existed more than a decade ago and it belonged to some one else.
Zimmerman stole somebody's work and falsely claimed it to be his own. He lied.
As always, you are refusing to admit that you are wrong.

The "painted artwork" came about only when he put his so-called "visions" onto the blank canvas as soon as possible. Therefore, the "visions" he referred to is the particular waving American flag.

We are just assuming zimmerman painted the artwork basing on his words. But given zimmerman himself has proven to be a pathological bold face liar, I'm not buying it without any concrete evidence.

He could have obtained the services of some photo-to-canvas transfer software or photoshop service such as these:

Walmart Digital Photo Center : Wall Art & Canvas

Canvas Prints | Photos on Canvas | Canvas Pictures | CanvasWorld

It makes a fly-by-night wannabe "artist's" life a lot easier. And it's no brainer.
 
As always, you are refusing to admit that you are wrong.
That is you.
You have this abnormal and irrational hatred of the guy. So much so that you go around calling him a murderer even though he never murdered anyone.


The "painted artwork" came about only when he put his so-called "visions" onto the blank canvas as soon as possible. Therefore, the "visions" he referred to is the particular waving American flag.
And?
Again. you are obviously not aware of what a vision is to say the crap you are saying.
I can not speak for him, but his vision was most likely of that flag in such colors and with those words.
That would be his "vision", but you want to play at being obtuse because of your irrational hatred, and not see that.
It is still his vision.


But given zimmerman himself has proven to be a pathological bold face liar, I'm not buying it without any concrete evidence.
And that is the product of irrational hatred and convoluted thoughts.
He has not been proven to be any such thing.


He could have obtained the services of some photo-to-canvas transfer software or photoshop service such as these:

It makes a fly-by-night wannabe "artist's" life a lot easier. And it's no brainer.
Oy Vey. :doh

Doesn't matter if he did or didn't. It is still his vision and an original painting.
 
At best this is entry level high school art painting. I took art in high school and I saw this level in the beginning class.

The most obvious error is the lettering he uses. In part of the painting it looks like he just typed it across the canvas. Then in other parts he tries to have the lettering match the contour of the flag but that is above his skill level so he goes back to just typing it.

If some idiot wants to pay $100,000 for it then lucky is he. I could see hanging up in your house if your child had done it. But am always amazed how people want to spend thousands of dollars on a baseball trading card.
 
That is you.
You have this abnormal and irrational hatred of the guy. So much so that you go around calling him a murderer even though he never murdered anyone.


And?
Again. you are obviously not aware of what a vision is to say the crap you are saying.
I can not speak for him, but his vision was most likely of that flag in such colors and with those words.
That would be his "vision", but you want to play at being obtuse because of your irrational hatred, and not see that.
It is still his vision.


And that is the product of irrational hatred and convoluted thoughts.
He has not been proven to be any such thing.


Oy Vey. :doh

Doesn't matter if he did or didn't. It is still his vision and an original painting.
Stop repeating my words back to me like a parrot. If I want a parrot I would go get one from the pet store. At least a real parrot can be trained.

Obviously you have the same lack of ethics as zimmerman, that's why you see nothing wrong in stealing and claiming other people's work as your own. If you can't even go get a camera and do your own work to wait patiently for the winds to blow for the right moment and the right wave pattern that is solely and uniquely yours and no one else's, then you are just not worth the time for anyone to waste their breath..
 
Stop repeating my words back to me like a parrot. If I want a parrot I would go get one from the pet store. At least a real parrot can be trained.
Stop repeating my words back to me like a parrot. If I want a parrot I would go get one from the pet store. At least a real parrot can be trained.


Obviously you have the same lack of ethics as zimmerman, that's why you see nothing wrong in stealing and claiming other people's work as your own.
Obviously you have a problem understanding what theft is.
You also have a problem understanding what an original painting is, as well as what vision means.
And you also obviously have a problem understanding what murder is.

So stop lying.

True statements by Zimmerman.
"First hand painted artwork by me, George Zimmerman."
&
"and I needed to put these visions onto the blank canvas as soon as possible".

Untrue statements by dolphinocean.
The "visions" zimmerman lied about existed more than a decade ago and it belonged to some one else.
Zimmerman stole somebody's work and falsely claimed it to be his own. He lied.


If you can't even go get a camera and do your own work to wait patiently for the winds to blow for the right moment and the right wave pattern that is solely and uniquely yours and no one else's, then you are just not worth the time for anyone to waste their breath..
All you are doing is crying.


If he violated the Author's copyright we will see. If not, stop crying.
 
I should start a new thread. But this should suffice.
iLOL

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Do you think this was his inspiration?
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it is not true ,he was going home when zimmer decided to stalk him .

And Zimmerman was just walking when Martin decided to punch him in the head.

See how that works?

Is it your opinion that he is dead because he was black?

Do you think if the kid was white Zimmerman would have let him kill him?
 
And Zimmerman was just walking when Martin decided to punch him in the head.

See how that works?

Is it your opinion that he is dead because he was black?

Do you think if the kid was white Zimmerman would have let him kill him?

haha .)
 

Do you not remember the facts of the case?

Why after all this time are you trying to try the case again. The facts haven't changed.
 
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