Linux

Thread for linux folk and people interested in possibly trying it out.

Okay Blackdog, I got it Linux Mint running virtually. Your default music manager is called Banshee. So google Banshee and whatever it is you want it to do. There'll be some chatter out there and most likely an answer. If not, make a post in the linux mint forum asking how to.

Now, navigation... as you can see, the start button, as it were, instead of showing programs and whatnot, it shows categories. So you go into the category that you think your software is in like... Banshee will be in the "sound and video" category.

Now go to the start button>system tools>administration then choose "synaptic package manager".

Ubuntu has what is called the ubuntu software center which is a lot more gui friendly but synaptic is more powerful. This is how to install most of the software you'll ever install. Linux uses packages and repostories. Packages are like the software itself and they are maintained in repositories by whomever wrote it or hosts it and whatnot. Repositories make linux so much cooler than windows and mac and here's why...

Go to start button>system tools>administration then choose "update manager". You are familiar with windows update. That downloads and updates your OS basically. Seeing how software in debian linux is in repositories, your update manager not only updates your OS, it updates every piece of software on your computer. So now you won't get that damn annoying, "Adobe pdf has an update for you." Then a seperate "Adobe flash has an update for you." Then "Java has an update for you."

Anytime you run your update manager everything is handled. You always have the latest greatest of everything on your computer. You'll never have to go out and download the latest Firefox. It will do that for you. Of course you can always choose not to update certain software as well should you choose.

Sometimes you can install software without being in a repository, that means it won't update like this of course.

Anytime you install linux the first thing you should do after an install is run your update manager. Get you up and going. I have my ubuntu set where the update manager tells me what updates are available once a week. I usually manually check all the time anyhow.

Now... what I find fun is listening to people talk about all the hacking and cracking they do to get the latest photoshop or other expensive software, then I go out, google "photoshop open source alternative" then find a completely legit free open source software that does pretty much anything all that expensive software can do. Like GIMP is the open source alternative to Photoshop. Blender3D is the open source alternative to other animated CGI software.

Where many people get a cheap thrill out of stealing stuff and that makes them feel cool, I get a better thrill figuring out how to do it legally and with software that is backed by a community rather than a company... which means there is always TONS of support and tutorials out there for it. Wanna know how to use a piece of Open Source software? Go to youtube and simply put in for example:

Blender3d tutorial

The great thing is there are tons of results... the bad thing is you feel like **** because a 12 year old mastered it and is the one teaching you via youtube.

Have fun man... it's a blast.

oh... if you want software that isn't in your synaptic package manager just see if they have a *.deb file. It is debians version of an *.exe file. Then you just download it, double click it... whammo... it's installed.

poweRob said:

Okay Blackdog, I got it Linux Mint running virtually. Your default music manager is called Banshee. So google Banshee and whatever it is you want it to do. There'll be some chatter out there and most likely an answer. If not, make a post in the linux mint forum asking how to.

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Now that I understand the basic structure it is allot easier. I already discovered Banshee, now I need to figure out the configuration, lol. It's all making sense though. I can't even imagine how hard this would be for a noob.

Ahhh just saw your post above. Let's see what damage I can cause!

Well the .run is easy a simple click in something I forgot and now I can just run them and they install. I am looking at the package's now. Already new about the updates, first thing I did.

if your running ubuntu or a similiar os id recomend using sudo apt-get command line if possible for many installs,its quicker than synaptic and other software managers and often will install programs not listed even after repositories are added.


instruction on apt-get command are all over the internet and by far the most reliable installation method ive seen.

OK found the preferences and I am under way. I will start on video etc next. This is not to bad.

Damn! I think I locked Banshee up! All I did was have it discover my music.

Ok did not crash the system just restarted Banshee, it and all good.

beerftw said:

if your running ubuntu or a similiar os id recomend using sudo apt-get command line if possible for many installs,its quicker than synaptic and other software managers and often will install programs not listed even after repositories are added.


instruction on apt-get command are all over the internet and by far the most reliable installation method ive seen.

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I am. Only had to use .run for my news group app.

Blackdog said:

Now that I understand the basic structure it is allot easier. I already discovered Banshee, now I need to figure out the configuration, lol. It's all making sense though. I can't even imagine how hard this would be for a noob.

Ahhh just saw your post above. Let's see what damage I can cause!

Well the .run is easy a simple click in something I forgot and now I can just run them and they install. I am looking at the package's now. Already new about the updates, first thing I did.

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just build gentoo from scratch noob (just kidding I hate pretentious ****s)

Damn the movie player does not do 7.1 surround!!! That kind of pisses me off.

Love linux, have it as dual boot on my pc, just wish it would run all my games.
That's the primary reason I haven't fully switched.

megaprogman said:

just build gentoo from scratch noob (just kidding I hate pretentious ****s)

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Whats a "gentoo?" lol. Is that part of this new Linux lang? Or did you make it up?

Harry Guerrilla said:

Love linux, have it as dual boot on my pc, just wish it would run all my games.
That's the primary reason I haven't fully switched.

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Same here. If linux had decent games, I would switch completely.

Harry Guerrilla said:

Love linux, have it as dual boot on my pc, just wish it would run all my games.
That's the primary reason I haven't fully switched.

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Fortunately I gave up gaming. Although I wonder if steam works, lol.

Thank goodness the Gnome player has 7.1!!!

Blackdog said:

Whats a "gentoo?" lol. Is that part of this new Linux lang? Or did you make it up?

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DistroWatch.com: Gentoo Linux

Its for the computer version of people who like to put spoilers on the back of their 4 cyl honda and a new muffler so it sounds like a can of angry bees

Blackdog said:

Fortunately I gave up gaming. Although I wonder if steam works, lol.

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They're beta testing a steam for linux.
If they can get it going, with tech support, I'll completely wipe windows off my pc.

Harry Guerrilla said:

They're beta testing a steam for linux.
If they can get it going, with tech support, I'll completely wipe windows off my pc.

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steam worked on linux fine under wine last time i tried it,but different games themselves had problems.

the games i ran were counter strikes 1.6 condition zero and source,1.6 and cz ran at a slightly lower fps but internet syncing and hitbox registry massively improved.

source kept on having transparent walls,so it was like i was using wall hacks even though i wasnt,source and source based games though i heard were kinda picky running on wine depending on the video card and direct x version being emulated or used.

Running Ubuntu and have Mint as a dual boot option on my home laptop.

LOVE IT ALL.

Looking for a good mp3 player that I can manage using Ubuntu or Mint.

Anyone have any ideas?

beerftw said:

steam worked on linux fine under wine last time i tried it,but different games themselves had problems.

the games i ran were counter strikes 1.6 condition zero and source,1.6 and cz ran at a slightly lower fps but internet syncing and hitbox registry massively improved.

source kept on having transparent walls,so it was like i was using wall hacks even though i wasnt,source and source based games though i heard were kinda picky running on wine depending on the video card and direct x version being emulated or used.

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Problems I've had, running eve online.
The main problem is a MS font, that they make available for free for anyone to download, except that Linux distro's are not allowed to have it with their downloadable packages.
F'ing stupid laws.

megaprogman said:

Same here. If linux had decent games, I would switch completely.

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Install "Play on Linux". Tons of games in there including diablo III.

Harry Guerrilla said:

They're beta testing a steam for linux.
If they can get it going, with tech support, I'll completely wipe windows off my pc.

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I see Steam in "Play on Linux". Don't know how buggy it is.

poweRob said:

I see Steam in "Play on Linux". Don't know how buggy it is.

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Might try it on test drive.
Haven't messed with opensuse since I last tried to manually fix eve (Didn't work.)

poweRob said:

Install "Play on Linux". Tons of games in there including diablo III.

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diablo 3 runs flawless on my computer under ubuntu 64 bit,but i didnt use playonlinux which is a user friendly version of wine,infact i have to run a command line script to get d3 to play flawless,because d3 was made for 32 bit systems with weak 64 bit support,combined with wine not knowing howto handle a 32 bit app on a 64 bit os and ubuntu not knowing how to give wine 2 cores,8 gigs ram and 1 gig video memory.

it lead me to use a script to limit diablo 3 to 1 core(runs same speed as windows)only 3 gigs of ram,and other mods.

cd .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files\ \(x86\)/Diablo\ III/
setarch i386 -3 wine Diablo\ III.exe -launch &> /dev/null &
sleep 20
taskset -cp 0 `pidof Diablo\ III.exe`

thats my script to get d3 running perfect crash and glitch free.

Harry Guerrilla said:

They're beta testing a steam for linux.
If they can get it going, with tech support, I'll completely wipe windows off my pc.

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They will get it going. Linux really is getting popular. So keep your fingers crossed.

Harry Guerrilla said:

Might try it on test drive.
Haven't messed with opensuse since I last tried to manually fix eve (Didn't work.)

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I own that on steam excellent. Looks like I can still play a few games.

Also anyone know how to turn on services...

mdns, ipp, ipp-cliient for a networked printer? Or even see my network?