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    Re: This just set back breastfeeding about a 100 years

    Like I said in a related thread last night, I personally think breast-feeding should be ending at around 12-18 months. There are many more ways of bonding, and to me, keeping a baby on the tit excessively long is more for the mom's benefit than for the child's.
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    Re: This just set back breastfeeding about a 100 years

    Breast feeding a child is never a sexual experience. Breast feeding your kid does not make you a wacko just because they are over the age of two. Breast feeding does not psychological harm the child. Actually it is doing the kid a favor, they get nourishment. I dont really have time to lolly about watching TV so until hazlnut said it was a show I was lost.

    It always amazes me that people get offended or think that breast feeding is gross. Perhaps it shows just how Juvenile those people are since they seem to always relate to breast feeding as an sexual activity?

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    Re: This just set back breastfeeding about a 100 years

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Breast feeding a child is never a sexual experience. Breast feeding your kid does not make you a wacko just because they are over the age of two. Breast feeding does not psychological harm the child. Actually it is doing the kid a favor, they get nourishment. I dont really have time to lolly about watching TV so until hazlnut said it was a show I was lost.

    It always amazes me that people get offended or think that breast feeding is gross. Perhaps it shows just how Juvenile those people are since they seem to always relate to breast feeding as an sexual activity?
    I'm not offended, and I don't relate it to any type of sexual activity- I just think it's a subconscious desire to keep a child overly infant-like emotionally.
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    Re: This just set back breastfeeding about a 100 years

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I'm not offended, and I don't relate it to any type of sexual activity- I just think it's a subconscious desire to keep a child overly infant-like emotionally.
    Im not going to say that some women somewhere wouldn't fit that description, because well there are alot of women breast feeding. But this site is interesting.


    The Nursing Baby FAQ FAQ on Extended Nursing

    Doesn't the milk lose its goodness past one year?

    No, the milk remains virtually the same. The changes that take place in the milk are designed to accomodate the child's new dependence on solids, and lesser milk intake. During weaning, the milk changes yet again, turning salty and higher in minerals.

    Isn't nursing past two years sexual abuse?

    No, sexual abuse occurs when inappropriate touching takes place. Because the breast is not a sexual organ, breastfeeding a baby or child is not sexual abuse. In fact, this is a common misconception because many western societies place a sexual value on the breast. While the breast, male or female, may be used in sexual relations, there is nothing inherantly sexual about the breast. Biologically, it has nerve endings which are sensitive. These nerve endings help enhance the mother-infant bond by ensuring a good latch. The fact that there are other uses for the breast is not really germane to breastfeeding. An apt, if unpleasant, comparison is that most normal men do not derive sexual pleasure from urination, despite the fact that they are using a sexual organ. In fact, you may be surprised to know that statistically, breastfeeding mothers have been shown to sexually abuse their children less often. Experts say that the deepened bond between many mothers and their nurslings makes abuse less likely.

    Doesn't nursing a toddler make him or her clingy?

    There is evidence that nursing makes a toddler less clingy (although more attached) than his weaned peers. Breastfed toddlers may be more secure, perhaps because they have come to rely on their mothers as a solid source of comfort, and know that mother can be depended on when needed.

    I want more children, what about my fertility while breastfeeding?

    Breastfeeding will delay fertility, and for some women, decrease their libido. The good news is that fertility will return for most women despite nursing a two or three year old. The fertility reducing affect of breastfeeding varies from woman to woman.

    The idea of nursing an older baby makes me uncomfortable. Why do people nurse older babies?

    Most women don't begin their nursing relationship with their infant with the idea of nursing for a set number of months. As many women approach what they thought was the "ideal" weaning time, they begin to question why weaning at that age had seemed like such a good idea when they can clearly see the benefits of continuing to nurse. Many women begin to ask, why should I wean when my toddler so clearly benefits? My toddler's anxieties and bumps and bruises are so easily soothed by nursing. Putting him or her to bed is a breeze, and grumpy mornings just don't happen when he or she wakes with a nurse.

    I can't imagine breastfeeding an 18 month old in public! Will they be asking to nurse at the grocery store?

    This is *so* dependent on the child; however, many toddlers lose their love of nursing round the clock, and are way too busy exploring their world to nurse when in public. Toddlers can also be taught polite ways to ask for nursing. A hand gesture can be a secret way to ask to nurse rather than pulling on a shirt for the preverbal toddler. And toddlers will call nursing whatever you call it - nummies are a discreet word that only another nursing mother might recognize Some moms are also comfortable establishing a no nursing in public policy. And of course, some moms find that there is no reason not to nurse an older child in public.

    Don't moms who nurse older children want some time to themselves?

    Of course they do, they have needs for privacy and needs for social time away from their family just like any mother, independent of whether they are nursing or not. The breast is an amazing organ, and as the months go by, breasts are less and less prone to problems such as engorgement, plugged ducts, or mastitis at time apart from nursing. And for moms who do want more than a few hours, pumping when (or *if* engorged) will generally work just fine.

    If I don't set a weaning date, when will my toddler wean?

    That depends on your toddler and you. Many will self wean if you direct a weaning strategy of not nursing except upon request. Others may need encouragement if you decide you are ready to wean before they do. Just be sure to let the weaning take place slowly, and expect a few setbacks along the way. Most moms report that it is easier to wean an older child than a younger. And still other moms report that their child weaned before they (the mother) was ready!

    I can see the advantages of nursing an older child, but I'm planning on returning to work.

    Actually, it's very easy to continue a nursing relationship with a toddler and go back to work. Because the breasts are less prone to engorgement, most mothers can simply nurse in the morning before leaving and as soon as they get home. Moms who go back to work early simply begin dropping pumping sessions as their toddler begins solids and other liquids. Moms who've gone back to work and continued nursing tend to feel better about their work experiences, knowing that they are still providing their baby with the best, despite being separated for part of the day. And mothers who continue to nurse find that they have to take fewer sick days, as their child gets sick less often because of the immune-enhancing effect of breastmilk.

    I can see the advantages for my baby. What are the advantages for me?

    Mothers who nurse continue to receive the hormones of letdown, which relax the mother and help her continue to bond with her child, which can be clearly beneficial in the second year with those sometimes hard to love toddlers! Also, stress levels are reduced in mothers who nurse, making coping with small children (or a busy work day for working mothers) even easier. Mothers who nurse 24 months or more over their lifetime have a 25% lowered chance of developing breast cancer than their bottlefeeding peers. Mothers who nurse also have reduced fertility, which many consider an advantage. Mothers who nurse continue to need extra calories, although fewer than in the first year, which is an advantage to all but those who need to gain weight. And of course, many women consider the appearance of their breasts to be better before they have weaned. Mothers who nurse also have an additional parenting weapon in their arsenal, namely the ability to calm and comfort an angry or out of control toddler, that can't always be done in any other way.

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    Re: This just set back breastfeeding about a 100 years

    Wacko was pretty harsh. My apologies. Sincerely, I do apologize for such a term used.

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    Re: This just set back breastfeeding about a 100 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post

    Repulsive ...hate it!!! hate it!!!!!


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    Re: This just set back breastfeeding about a 100 years

    From the link:

    Many women begin to ask, why should I wean when my toddler so clearly benefits? My toddler's anxieties and bumps and bruises are so easily soothed by nursing. Putting him or her to bed is a breeze, and grumpy mornings just don't happen when he or she wakes with a nurse.
    That is exactly what I was referring to. Keeping the child overly infant-like and dependent. Imo, it's not a good idea. Pacifying a child's natural toddler emotional tendencies is delaying his development.
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    Re: This just set back breastfeeding about a 100 years

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
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    That is exactly what I was referring to. Keeping the child overly infant-like and dependent. Imo, it's not a good idea. Pacifying a child's natural toddler emotional tendencies is delaying his development.
    This is a concern for me - and honestly: it's more for the mother than the child.

    It's just like children on pacifiers and other such things well into their early years (5, 6 - etc) . . . the loss of which causes the child to act out = gives the parents a headache = parents cannot cope so parents tend to encourage the behavior to avoid their discomfort. The idea of what is best for the child in these types of situations is shoved aside. Parents who pacify their children and provide goodies and treats to encourage submissiveness and silence concern me beyond the breastfeeding at 4 issue. It is a sign that the parent is unable to handle their children appropriately and set rules, give order and encourage their children to learn and grow. (some of which you've already said above)

    Reminds me of the wet-nursing from 'The Last Emperor.'
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    Re: This just set back breastfeeding about a 100 years

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
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    That is exactly what I was referring to. Keeping the child overly infant-like and dependent. Imo, it's not a good idea. Pacifying a child's natural toddler emotional tendencies is delaying his development.
    Undoubtedly you are correct in many cases. But the that doesnt mean that in all cases that you are correct. One child may need a little more than another. No two kids are alike. Why make an time limit to something that can and does have different variables?

    That said I do agree at some point whether the child is ready or not age is a factor. One of the large factors is the how when and why question of toddler breast feeding. If they are being breast feed because the kid was throwing a fit or wouldnt go to sleep, then there is a problem.

    BTW my wife breast fed both of our children. And yes beyond the age of two though I really couldnt say for certain how much longer lol they weren't on my tits. But I know that when they were weened it seemed like the right time and appropriate. And another thing is that toddlers do not breast feed nearly as much as an infant. So it is not like they are completely getting their nutrition through breast milk. Which also means that there isnt really a problem with the toddler regressing as if they were an infant. Well at least not in my kids case. So take in account that i am not generalizing and saying that all kids are like my kids. Because as a proud parent I think that my kids are better than everyone elses lol :P

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    Re: This just set back breastfeeding about a 100 years

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
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    That is exactly what I was referring to. Keeping the child overly infant-like and dependent. Imo, it's not a good idea. Pacifying a child's natural toddler emotional tendencies is delaying his development.

    Infantilizing a child is not exclusive to breastfeeding when a distasteful situation occurs.

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