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The Failure of the ACA in Three Phases

Born Free said:
The wind is at the GOP's back this time around, but damn they can screw it up in a heart beat. Totally agree on avoiding the toxic stuff like abortion, leave it alone and stick with the big issues. Health care, the economy, Keystone, the EPA killing jobs. Show how to get the middle class working again. But will they?????
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That is the big question, will they? I think somehow, someway the Republicans will find a way to blow it. There are times when the Republicans are their own worst enemy. They have a long history of nominating unelectable candidates or sticking their foot into their mouth. Time will tell.
 
MTAtech said:
The point is that this thread is based upon an Obamacare "death spiral" that isn't going to happen. While the death spiral story sounds good, especially if you’re rooting for failure, you have to look at the numbers, as Sarah Kliff has in WaPo. What we're seeing is mostly older people signing up, which what we saw with Mittcare. Even if the young sign up at only half the rate of the rest, rates will go only a few percent higher. Hardly a death spiral.
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The scheme is already in a political death spiral. The key point, politically, is that for every winner there are more losers.
 
wbcoleman said:
The scheme is already in a political death spiral. The key point, politically, is that for every winner there are more losers.
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How do you know? You have no study. While the right wing is betting it's a disaster, that hasn't been proven.

People like the fact that their children can remain on their employer plans until 26; one can't be penalized for per-existing conditions and that out-of-pocket costs are capped.
 
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MTAtech said:
How do you know? You have no study. While the right wing is betting it's a disaster, that hasn't been proven.

People like the fact that their children can remain on their employer plans until 26; one can't be penalized for per-existing conditions and that out-of-pocket costs are capped.
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None of those goodies are costless, and the costs appear to be higher than people want to pay. Of course, everybody likes something for nothing.
 
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