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Under GOP control, Senate finally passes bill to repeal Affordable Care Act

IIRC this also refuses funding for Planned Parenthood?
 
Weird, it seems like they forgot the "replace" again. Whoops!
 
joG said:
You mean it would have been better to wait till the President is gone?
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You can't just repeal a massive system that has tentacles reaching into various areas of law and insurance in the country, without having something to replace it with, or an enormous bill spelling out the steps to take to repeal.....which would take years.

The ACA affects Medicare, medical devices, individual insurance, employee insurance, Medicaid, caps on one thing or another, coverage, pre-existing conditions, age, geographical area....all sorts of things. It took SEVEN years to enact, with each year taken in steps. It would have to be repealed in a similar way, if we hope not to wreck the economy and destroy companies and lives. AND there would have to be something to replace it with.

This was a waste of time because the Republicans don't really want to repeal Obamacare. Many of their rural constituents get subsidies, and they like that. Some of their constituents have pre-existing conditions and can't get insurance without Obamacare. No, they don't really want to repeal it. It's just a staged thing to use for campaigning. A waste of time and money.

The next time a Republican mention the waste of money by the government, think of the 50+ times Republicans voted to repeal Obamacare, something that had no chance of succeeding, and the hearings on baseball that the Congress under Bush had (remember that? full blown congressional hearings on steroids in baseball; you can't make that stuff up), and the Cruz-led shutdown of the government costing jobs and the country about $32billion. And dont' forget hte cause of the deficit: the Iraq War coupled with a HUGE tax cut for the wealthiest in the country.
 
JumpinJack said:
You can't just repeal a massive system that has tentacles reaching into various areas of law and insurance in the country, without having something to replace it with, or an enormous bill spelling out the steps to take to repeal.....which would take years.

The ACA affects Medicare, medical devices, individual insurance, employee insurance, Medicaid, caps on one thing or another, coverage, pre-existing conditions, age, geographical area....all sorts of things. It took SEVEN years to enact, with each year taken in steps. It would have to be repealed in a similar way, if we hope not to wreck the economy and destroy companies and lives. AND there would have to be something to replace it with.

This was a waste of time because the Republicans don't really want to repeal Obamacare. Many of their rural constituents get subsidies, and they like that. Some of their constituents have pre-existing conditions and can't get insurance without Obamacare. No, they don't really want to repeal it. It's just a staged thing to use for campaigning. A waste of time and money.

The next time a Republican mention the waste of money by the government, think of the 50+ times Republicans voted to repeal Obamacare, something that had no chance of succeeding, and the hearings on baseball that the Congress under Bush had (remember that? full blown congressional hearings on steroids in baseball; you can't make that stuff up), and the Cruz-led shutdown of the government costing jobs and the country about $32billion. And dont' forget hte cause of the deficit: the Iraq War coupled with a HUGE tax cut for the wealthiest in the country.
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I am not sure why it should be more difficult to unwind the program and replace it with something more sensible than leaving a mess in place that will require expansive maintenance and change for decades to come.
 
joG said:
I am not sure why it should be more difficult to unwind the program and replace it with something more sensible than leaving a mess in place that will require expansive maintenance and change for decades to come.
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What I'm saying, I suppose, is that politicians are giving the impression they can wave a magic wand, and things will revert back to the way they were. I don't think that's possible. They could repeal it....and that would have to be done in stages, like the enactment was done.

I don't think the Republicans want to repeal the whole thing, anyway. Their constituents want to keep parts.
 
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