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Health care costs set to increase sharply next year... thanks, Obamacare!

Pollycy

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But wait! I thought the "Messiah's" miraculous health care plan was going to save us $2,500 every year!

Instead:
Feds' health care costs to increase on average by 6.4 percent - FederalNewsRadio.com
Health insurance may cost more in 2016 under Affordable Care Act - The Portland Press Herald / Maine Sunday Telegram

And for those poor bastards on Medicare, an even worse outlook, thanks to the fact that although both Repubs and Demos think it's great to save the too-big-to-fail, people who were forced to contribute to SS and Medicare all their lives are going to get NO increase next year. Why? Because gas prices are lower (like old, retired people are big gas-guzzlers... :roll:): What the potential Medicare Part B increases mean for healthcare | Healthcare Dive

The only people who are going to come out of this in relatively good shape are the ones who will be given "subsidies", which is just another word for WELFARE. If you don't qualify for this WELFARE, you are going to get screwed, and it will get worse year by year by year....
 
Who cares? The Part B premium increase affects new enrollees, people who are collecting Medicare but not social security, and people with high incomes. If you don't like it then you can either increase taxes or decrease benefits.
 
reinoe said:
Who cares? The Part B premium increase affects new enrollees, people who are collecting Medicare but not social security, and people with high incomes. If you don't like it then you can either increase taxes or decrease benefits.
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Medicare is not something to be "collected."
 
Can someone help me locate the year in which health care costs did not increase faster than the inflation rate?
 
Pollycy said:
But wait! I thought the "Messiah's" miraculous health care plan was going to save us $2,500 every year!

Instead:
Feds' health care costs to increase on average by 6.4 percent - FederalNewsRadio.com
Health insurance may cost more in 2016 under Affordable Care Act - The Portland Press Herald / Maine Sunday Telegram

And for those poor bastards on Medicare, an even worse outlook, thanks to the fact that although both Repubs and Demos think it's great to save the too-big-to-fail, people who were forced to contribute to SS and Medicare all their lives are going to get NO increase next year. Why? Because gas prices are lower (like old, retired people are big gas-guzzlers... :roll:): What the potential Medicare Part B increases mean for healthcare | Healthcare Dive

The only people who are going to come out of this in relatively good shape are the ones who will be given "subsidies", which is just another word for WELFARE. If you don't qualify for this WELFARE, you are going to get screwed, and it will get worse year by year by year....
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The unfortunate consequence of added members in a health plan pool. Rates for premiums go up. Simple economics.

Single payer would have been a better option, in my opinion.
 
Health care costs set to increase sharply every year since my career began... thanks, most inefficient health care system in the first world.
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fixed
 
reinoe said:
Who cares? The Part B premium increase affects new enrollees, people who are collecting Medicare but not social security, and people with high incomes. If you don't like it then you can either increase taxes or decrease benefits.
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How about decreasing the plundering of medicare and SS by the politicians? For the sake of helping the funding of that fascist ponzi scheme known as obamacare, the government has pulled over half a trillion dollars from medicare funding. And they have lowered the reimbursement to doctors treating medicare patients to less then it is actually costing to treat them. That is starting to create a medicare doctor shortage, just like the already existing doctor shortage in the VA. That is hurting the low income folks....not the rich.
 
I am still trying to figure out how to get that $2,500.00 reduction I was promised. I was told I could keep my existing plan. What Obama failed to mention was that my premiums, my deductible, and my co-pay would increase while my coverage would decrease.

Before Obama care 2 stitches in my finger cost me $10.00. After Obama care 2 stitches in my thumb cost me $550.00.
 
joG said:
Is it more inefficient than other ones? I am not convinced.
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haven't we covered this already in fifty gazillion threads? i suppose we can do it again, if you'd like.
 
Beaudreaux said:
Wait... isn't that the same reasoning that the Democrats said would cause costs to go down? Yes, yes it is.
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It depends upon who those folks added to the risk pool are. If they are the young and healthy then premiums go down but if they are the old and sick then premiums go up. Guess which group dropping actuarial risk factors (often called pre-exisiting conditions) added to the pool?

Another factor was adding many new "no out of pocket cost" items to that which must be covered by any insurance plan. That was sure to drive up premium costs. The theory was that eventually it would result in lower costs since more would receive preventive care. Even "free" preventive care requires taking time off of work to get that care - a luxury not present for many workers. Try telling your boss that you will be "sick" next Friday at noon in order to get some nice to have "free" check-up done..
 
Helix said:
haven't we covered this already in fifty gazillion threads? i suppose we can do it again, if you'd like.
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I look forward to the repeal of obamacare. Then we can all shut up about it. :mrgreen:
 
ObamacareFail said:
I look forward to the repeal of obamacare. Then we can all shut up about it. :mrgreen:
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could actually happen if Republicans win the presidency. worse yet, they might actually succeed in privatizing Medicare. get ready to pay even more for health care.
 
Helix said:
could actually happen if Republicans win the presidency. worse yet, they might actually succeed in privatizing Medicare. get ready to pay even more for health care.
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I may not sign up for medicare..or I will sign up for the very minimum. VA care is a better deal. No premiums, eight dollar prescription copays, and ninety dollar a day inpatient co-payments.
 
iguanaman said:
Yawn...What is it the 15th one or something? They should just sit around jerking each other off it would be more productive.
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Yeah, I've lost count on all the attempts. I find this whole thing to be a complete waste of taxpayer money. It would seem better to reform it at this stage, for the GOP, rather than repeal it.
 
ObamacareFail said:
I may not sign up for medicare..or I will sign up for the very minimum. VA care is a better deal. No premiums, eight dollar prescription copays, and ninety dollar a day inpatient co-payments.
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yeah, that might be a good move. after the recent scandals, they'll actually have to address some of the problems. either way, hope that it works out for you.
 
reinoe said:
Who cares? The Part B premium increase affects new enrollees, people who are collecting Medicare but not social security, and people with high incomes. If you don't like it then you can either increase taxes or decrease benefits.
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We should always care when one group of our citizens is unfairly subjected to deliberate, crass unfairness. The answer is NOT to screw people who have been forced by law to pay into these systems all their working lives, no, the answer should begin with a total overhaul of the entire U. S. Tax Code to eliminate all tax loopholes, tax shelters, exclusions, exemptions, etc. Isn't it funny how neither "Fat Cat" Republicans, NOR, "Limoousine Liberal" Democrats are ever interested in actually DOING this?!

sangha said:
Can someone help me locate the year in which health care costs did not increase faster than the inflation rate?
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But, President Marvelous and his big Obamacare fraud was supposed to change all that... remember...? He told us with a straight face that we would be SAVING $2,500 a year... remember?! Instead, all he's done is to add millions of people who have to be subsidized by the government, and that, in turn, means that costs continue to go up. Subsidy "welfare" was NOT the answer, but it was good politics for a Democrat Party that has lived by its "bread wagon" methodology since the 1930's....

le bouffon said:
The unfortunate consequence of added members in a health plan pool. Rates for premiums go up. Simple economics.

Single payer would have been a better option, in my opinion.
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I agree that a single-payer system would be better, for exactly the reason you insinuated. With a larger health plan pool, there would be the negotiating and buying power of a larger number of people who could demand better coverage at lower prices. The trouble for Democrats is for this to actually work, you'd have to be certain that all participants in the single-payer system actually PAY to be a part of it. Those who choose not to participate could either get their own expenseive, one-off health care (the rich), or, go on Medicaid (the poor).

ALL the "subsidies" must be done away with. Subsidies are nothing but welfare under a different name, and the cost of adding this "float" would eventually bankrupt the whole system.
 
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