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Come up with something Better.

jaeger19 said:
UHC does not give healthcare to everyone. Unless you are covering illegal immigrants, legal immigrants, and tourists. Which no UHC covers by the way.

and there are no UHC countries that everyone "gets all the HC they need, when they need it".. Most have either rationing, or they have a private system for people to step outside the public system or both.

Oh and forgot.. Many UHC countries have emtala like rules to prevent patient dumping. Others don't have such rules and patient dumping is a common occurrence.
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UHC does cover legal immigrants and tourists in many places. How do you think I got HC for nothing? In a fixed cost system of UHC, weather to cover the tourists or not costs nothing extra, and makes them happy to return. Example, to see a Dr in the Cooks is free for locals, and $20 NZ for tourists. Dental I free.

A Americans wife had major brain surgery, with a life flight from their sailboat in the great barrier reef. With months of hospital recovery. True story direct from the guys mouth, I met him in Mexico. Cost? about $2500. With $1500 of that the jet ride to Sydney. In USA you cant get a ambulance ride for $2500. As foreigners, they did have to pay, as you can see, it was affordable....................and makes the USA look like the **** hole it is.
 
Mycroft said:
You've branded an industry as being "criminally negligent". Yet the definition of the phrase applies to a "person" involved in a crime.

Link 1. It is not a crime to file suit against a law.

Link 2. It is not a crime to apply standards for health care coverage to a particular case.

Link 3. It is not a crime to pay an employee for their services to a company.

And none of the links involve the death of a person as the result of the operation of a motor vehicle by a person who is under the influence of drugs, narcotics or alcohol.

Words matter. I suggest you employ words properly.
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Take your legal ease and shove it.

A nation that has 26,000 deaths from greed, needs t o die.
 
Lachean said:
If only your side wouldn't equate "not doing something bad" with "doing nothing."
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Lachean, I too did not understand your point. Are you trying to say republicans could come up with a better health care plan if dems just stopped saying mean things about republicans?
 
274ina said:
UHC does cover legal immigrants and tourists in many places. How do you think I got HC for nothing? In a fixed cost system of UHC, weather to cover the tourists or not costs nothing extra, and makes them happy to return. Example, to see a Dr in the Cooks is free for locals, and $20 NZ for tourists. Dental I free.

A Americans wife had major brain surgery, with a life flight from their sailboat in the great barrier reef. With months of hospital recovery. True story direct from the guys mouth, I met him in Mexico. Cost? about $2500. With $1500 of that the jet ride to Sydney. In USA you cant get a ambulance ride for $2500. As foreigners, they did have to pay, as you can see, it was affordable....................and makes the USA look like the **** hole it is.
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nice try.. but no. Again.. you pointed out.. that there were costs. that most UHC have rationing, and or have a private system for the wealthy. and they still have emtala like ruled to prevent patient dumping.

And if you think America is a "****" hole.. Well.. have a good day.
 
Erick Hedberg said:
Come up with something Better:

If the Republicans want to replace Obamacare why don’t they craft something better?

If it was better wouldn’t the President sign it?

They want to repeal it on day one and just stand there wondering what they should do.

Face it. Health care is expensive and there’s no easy or pretty way to pay for it.

Give Trump a Democratic Congress.
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I think Paul Ryan has a plan, doesn't he?
 
Erick Hedberg said:
Come up with something Better:

If the Republicans want to replace Obamacare why don’t they craft something better?

If it was better wouldn’t the President sign it?

They want to repeal it on day one and just stand there wondering what they should do.

Face it. Health care is expensive and there’s no easy or pretty way to pay for it.

Give Trump a Democratic Congress.
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No, the Prez is not about to sign in another health care reform, after spending years working on this one. It would have to be the next administration.

Some of the other Republicans have health care plans. Paul Ryan does, I believe.

Health care is expensive, particularly since there's a large profit for ins. cos. tacked onto it. But it was much more affordable in 2013 than now. Worse, it's more UNaffordable for those who are healthy. They have to pay for the claims of others, unlike auto insurance. It also attracts more sickly people than healthy people, because of that (no break for being healthy; rising premiums because of others who turn in high claims, particularly if they get free insurance through the exchange).
 
jaeger19 said:
Your plan would bankrupt the nation as the government becomes the dumping ground for expensive patients.
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The government is already the dumping grounds for bad corporate debt (see Feds balance sheet), so how would this be any different?
 
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