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    A coup? A power grab? Theres some serious political drama in North Carolina right now

    North Carolina is a state divided. Its incoming governor and attorney general are Democrats, but its legislature is overwhelmingly Republican. And true to North Carolina headline-grabbing politics, there's a knockdown, drag-out fight about who gets to control the levers of power before anyone is even sworn in.In the waning hours of Republicans' hold on government in North Carolina, they are proposing bills aimed at significantly curbing Democratic Gov.-elect Roy Cooper's power. In a last-last-minute special session, Republicans introduced a series of bills late Wednesday that would:
    — Require the governor's Cabinet appointments to be approved by the state Senate.
    — Limit the number of members the governor can appoint to powerful board of trustees at the University of North Carolina school system and the state Board of Education.
    — Significantly cut the number of positions who work directly for the governor, from 1,500 (a number Republicans approved when they had a Republican governor) to 300.
    — Divide members of the Board of Elections, typically appointed by the governor, between parties in a way that gives Republicans control during election years.

    Two bills also aim to change the state courts' partisan makeup. They would:
    — Make North Carolina just the sixth state in the nation with a partisan state Supreme Court elections, as opposed to a nonpartisan one. (The last state to make its top court elections partisan was Pennsylvania in 1921.)
    — Add an extra layer to appeals cases so that all cases have to go through the full court of appeals, which is controlled by Republicans.
    Obviously, Cooper won't be there to veto all this; the man he defeated, Gov. Pat McCrory (R), is still governor for a few more weeks.


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    Wow this is some pretty messed up stuff. Its clear that the Republicans in North Carolina are trying to using this special session to limit the incoming Democratic governor. Now I agree with calling a special session for that hurricane relief, but that should be the only reason they are convening a special session.
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    Re: A coup? A power grab? Theres some serious political drama in North Carolina right

    A coup? A power grab? Bull****.

    Seems to me, that just like Obama is still President with all the power and authority of the office still in tact, the current Governor of NC is still governor and the NC General Assembly is still controlled by members of the House and state Senators with all the power and authority of those positions still in tact.

    To try stop the duly elected officials currently in power by people that have yet to be sworn into office is the real power grab, the real coup, if any actually exists.

    Democrats in NC and you buddies in the press, like WaPo, you won the governor's office in NC. Now just wait until you get sworn in and you can do whatever the state constitution will allow you to do, but until then... STFU and wait your turn.
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    Re: A coup? A power grab? Theres some serious political drama in North Carolina right

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    A coup? A power grab? Bull****.

    Seems to me, that just like Obama is still President with all the power and authority of the office still in tact, the current Governor of NC is still governor and the NC General Assembly is still controlled by members of the House and state Senators with all the power and authority of those positions still in tact.

    To try stop the duly elected officials currently in power by people that have yet to be sworn into office is the real power grab, the real coup, if any actually exists.

    Democrats in NC and you buddies in the press, like WaPo, you won the governor's office in NC. Now just wait until you get sworn in and you can do whatever the state constitution will allow you to do, but until then... STFU and wait your turn.
    No, it's not bull****. It's a naked, brazen power grab, no matter how much that upsets some people and they have to whine about who's currently in power.
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    Re: A coup? A power grab? Theres some serious political drama in North Carolina right

    In TX, all the real power exist with the Lt. Governor.
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    Re: A coup? A power grab? Theres some serious political drama in North Carolina right

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanngrisnir View Post
    No, it's not bull****. It's a naked, brazen power grab, no matter how much that upsets some people and they have to whine about who's currently in power.
    That, too, is bull****. Then why don't you call the White House and tell President Obama that he doesn't have any power anymore if you think you're correct?

    The person in power, still has the power. It's that simple. Regardless of how butt hurt the Republicans are about Obama, or how butt hurt the Democrats are about McCrory, they are still in power.
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    Re: A coup? A power grab? Theres some serious political drama in North Carolina right

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    In TX, all the real power exist with the Lt. Governor.
    Same way in Mississippi, because he/she presides over the legislature. But not in NC.
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    Re: A coup? A power grab? Theres some serious political drama in North Carolina right

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    A coup? A power grab? Bull****.

    Seems to me, that just like Obama is still President with all the power and authority of the office still in tact, the current Governor of NC is still governor and the NC General Assembly is still controlled by members of the House and state Senators with all the power and authority of those positions still in tact.

    To try stop the duly elected officials currently in power by people that have yet to be sworn into office is the real power grab, the real coup, if any actually exists.

    Democrats in NC and you buddies in the press, like WaPo, you won the governor's office in NC. Now just wait until you get sworn in and you can do whatever the state constitution will allow you to do, but until then... STFU and wait your turn.
    What? I don't understand your contention.

    It sounds like they're trying to dramatically cut the incoming governor's power- do you contest this?

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    Re: A coup? A power grab? Theres some serious political drama in North Carolina right

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    A coup? A power grab? Bull****.

    Seems to me, that just like Obama is still President with all the power and authority of the office still in tact, the current Governor of NC is still governor and the NC General Assembly is still controlled by members of the House and state Senators with all the power and authority of those positions still in tact.

    To try stop the duly elected officials currently in power by people that have yet to be sworn into office is the real power grab, the real coup, if any actually exists.

    Democrats in NC and you buddies in the press, like WaPo, you won the governor's office in NC. Now just wait until you get sworn in and you can do whatever the state constitution will allow you to do, but until then... STFU and wait your turn.
    Oh, come on. It's quite obvious what the intent of this is -- to kneecap the incoming governor because he's a Democrat.
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    Re: A coup? A power grab? Theres some serious political drama in North Carolina right

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    That, too, is bull****. Then why don't you call the White House and tell President Obama that he doesn't have any power anymore if you think you're correct?
    No, sorry, it's simply not bull****, no matter how much that upsets you. They're moving to make sure that power is taken out of the hands of the next gov and put back into theirs. They've even going so far as to make less appointed positions for the governor there is now. That power will then be in the hands of the legislators. That's a power grab. No two ways about it, and Obama is irrelevant to that.

    The person in power, still has the power. It's that simple. Regardless of how butt hurt the Republicans are about Obama, or how butt hurt the Democrats are about McCrory, they are still in power.
    I'm not denying that. Yes, they're still in power, so spare me the straw man. They're currently trying to consolidate even more power, and doing so simply for political reasons. They're doing it in a special session exclusively for this purpose involving 27 bills. It's unprecedented and they're even going after things like election boards, etc...

    That's a power grab. You don't have to accept reality, but you can 't change it.
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    Re: A coup? A power grab? Theres some serious political drama in North Carolina right

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Oh, come on. It's quite obvious what the intent of this is -- to kneecap the incoming governor because he's a Democrat.
    Intent is invariably interpretive and wholly subjective. The fact that the current governor and legislature have the power to act is not. That's my point. I haven't stated my opinion on whether they should or should not (the intent), just that they can act within the state constitution, and that referring to a legal and constitutional action as a coup or power grab is pure hyperbolic political bull****, which it is.
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