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A coup? A power grab? Theres some serious political drama in North Carolina right now

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Some of it they wanted to, like making a lot of political appointee positions regular civil service jobs, but it's my understanding that McCrory made a deal with them to not do so, and he would agree to sign some bills the legislature wanted to pass that he didn't like.

And McCrory new this legislature wasn't going anywhere with one of the most egregious gerrymandered maps at the state and national level there is. Cooper might as well talk with the VA governor because that's the kind of gridlock you guys will have. I'm wondering whether DEMs have fully recognized the damage done by the 2010 census elections .
 
Re: A coup? A power grab? Theres some serious political drama in North Carolina right

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Wow this is some pretty messed up stuff. Its clear that the Republicans in North Carolina are trying to using this special session to limit the incoming Democratic governor. Now I agree with calling a special session for that hurricane relief, but that should be the only reason they are convening a special session. [/FONT][/COLOR]

Wow. . . on the surface it seems really ****ty and shady. Totally jacked up thing to do and exactly what is wrong with politics today. But it is all legal as far as I know. Im also not from NC so I dont know how much of this was going on already or with other people in power.

IMO the second biggest problem besides the media, catering to extremists and lack of education is that many politicians cater to those extremists and act xtreme themselves to achieve what they want. And unfortunately what they want has VERY VERY little to do with us and everything to do with their power and bank accounts.
 
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Just pointing out here that no one is arguing or suggesting what the North Carolina Republican Party is doing in the state legislature is against the law.
 
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Just pointing out here that no one is arguing or suggesting what the North Carolina Republican Party is doing in the state legislature is against the law.

People calling it a "coup" are. And "power grab," to a lesser extent.
 
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People calling it a "coup" are. And "power grab," to a lesser extent.

If you have a problem with semantics then so be it
 
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If you have a problem with semantics then so be it

"Semantics." That's a card played a little too frequently, and seldom appropriately.
 
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Some of it sounds reasonable, even if it's being dome purely for petty reasons, at least it's being done. Some is complete BS or just stupid (e.g. Why should judicial elections be partisan?!).
 
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"Semantics." That's a card played a little too frequently, and seldom appropriately.

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I agree that "coup" was rhetorical. That's peripheral to the material facts of the issue at hand.
 
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I agree that "coup" was rhetorical. That's peripheral to the material facts of the issue at hand.

It was really just a click-baity way to get people to read the article.
 
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This is what happens when the USA foolishly allows stuff like gerrymandering.
 
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Wow this is some pretty messed up stuff. Its clear that the Republicans in North Carolina are trying to using this special session to limit the incoming Democratic governor. Now I agree with calling a special session for that hurricane relief, but that should be the only reason they are convening a special session. [/FONT][/COLOR]

North Carolina is in the Northeast? I guess that's the coup, forcing North Carolina to be moved to a different region of the country.

** Note that this post is listed under Northeast
 
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Re: A coup? A power grab? Theres some serious political drama in North Carolina right

Intent is invariably interpretive and wholly subjective. The fact that the current governor and legislature have the power to act is not. That's my point. I haven't stated my opinion on whether they should or should not (the intent), just that they can act within the state constitution, and that referring to a legal and constitutional action as a coup or power grab is pure hyperbolic political bull****, which it is.

Yes, it is legal – yet it is clear they are reducing the elected Dem Governors powers. So, the only butt hurt here are the Republicans in the NC Legislature
 
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Yes, it is legal – yet it is clear they are reducing the elected Dem Governors powers. So, the only butt hurt here are the Republicans in the NC Legislature

The mods should stop allowing that vulgar expression that is associated with sodomy, which recently was a crime.

With that out of the way, I applaud the legislature's effort to prevent a leftist incoming governor from wrecking the state's economy.
 
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What? I don't understand your contention.

It sounds like they're trying to dramatically cut the incoming governor's power- do you contest this?

The incoming governor has no power to undercut. When the incoming governor is no longer incoming, then he gets to make the decisions. That's how the system works.
 
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The mods should stop allowing that vulgar expression that is associated with sodomy, which recently was a crime.

With that out of the way, I applaud the legislature's effort to prevent a leftist incoming governor from wrecking the state's economy.

Well how is Kansas doing under the far right tax cuts? Or even Wisconsin, the tax cuts for the wealthy did not increase revenues as was predicted in both States. And what do they do, but double down.
Louisiana now has a Dem who is cleaning up the fiscal mess from the former Republican Governor.
 
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The incoming governor has no power to undercut. When the incoming governor is no longer incoming, then he gets to make the decisions. That's how the system works.

You are making a pedantic distinction.

They are cutting the power of the governor's office just before another governor comes in. Do you have the honesty to admit this?
 
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You are making a pedantic distinction.

They are cutting the power of the governor's office just before another governor comes in. Do you have the honesty to admit this?

I will admit such and I think it's fine and dandy.
 
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You are making a pedantic distinction.

They are cutting the power of the governor's office just before another governor comes in. Do you have the honesty to admit this?

I'm stating a fact. Gonnado's don't count in politics.
 
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Well how is Kansas doing under the far right tax cuts? Or even Wisconsin, the tax cuts for the wealthy did not increase revenues as was predicted in both States. And what do they do, but double down.
Louisiana now has a Dem who is cleaning up the fiscal mess from the former Republican Governor.

The Republican Middle class voters just can't help but to continue to cut their own throats. It is amazing.

Jindal screwed up Louisiana so bad even the other Republican politicians in the State couldn't wait for him to leave. He left the State in a disaster.
 
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