Talking Gorilla Condemns Global Warming - Are you freaking kidding me with this crap?

The recent climate summit in Paris saw some of the most powerful humans on the planet deliver rousing speeches, although it’s the discourse of a famous member of another species that’s currently attracting attention, after Koko the gorilla made her feelings on climate change known using sign language.

Born in San Francisco Zoo in 1971, Koko began learning American Sign Language at the age of one, and, according to her trainers, was able to learn vocabulary at the same rate as a child with learning difficulties.

Over the past 45 years, she has become something of a global sensation, recently appearing in a video in which she adopts a pair of kittens, using sign language to identify them as cats and state that they are her babies.

Now, as part of a campaign by French organization Noe Conservation, Koko has been filmed delivering a message to the humans of the world, encouraging them to become more conscious of their responsibility to protect the planet. In the video, she appears to call mankind “stupid” for ignoring this responsibility, while also claiming that “Earth Koko love”

According to the Gorilla Foundation, Koko knows over 1,100 different signs, although many of these have been adapted in order to compensate for her inability to form the same complex hand shapes and movements as humans.

It must also be recognized that her ability to truly grasp the concepts about which she appears to "talk" in the video is questionable. For instance, her awareness of notions such as climate change and time unlikely to be strong. It has also not been verified by scientists not affiliated with the Gorilla Foundation whether or not she truly is able to grasp the syntax required to make complex statements, and how advanced her level of communication actually is.

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Gathomas88 said:

Sooo... Long story short, some shady "institute" taught a monkey a parlor trick, and now all the New Age environut types are going gaga over it, hailing the thing as being the "voice of nature."

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bg85 said:

I agree that this is a stupid marketing ploy which essentially means nothing.

I disagree that "all the new age environut types are going gaga over it".

I also disagree that it's a parlor trick. koko is pretty famous and can carry on complex conversations with people using sign language.

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Gathomas88 said:

I disagree with the latter two. It's going to be exactly the sorts of whackjobs you'd see on an episode of "Penn and Teller's: Bullsh*t!" that are going to get the most mileage out of this.

I also find it highly, highly dubious that a Gorilla can even grasp advanced abstract concepts like "Man" and "Earth," let alone any sort of existential threat posed towards them.

I suspect they are being rather generous in interpreting these "signs," and that a certain amount of coaching is most likely involved.

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Gathomas88 said:

IFL - Koko The Gorilla Has A Message For Mankind



Sooo... Long story short, some shady "institute" taught a monkey a parlor trick, and now all the New Age environut types are going gaga over it, hailing the thing as being the "voice of nature."

Nothing to see here folks, move along. :roll:

Why in the Hell does this count as being "science" news again? It seems more indicative of the old adage about a "sucker being born every minute."

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Gathomas88 said:

I disagree with the latter two. It's going to be exactly the sorts of whackjobs you'd see on an episode of "Penn and Teller's: Bullsh*t!" that are going to get the most mileage out of this.

I also find it highly, highly dubious that a Gorilla can even grasp advanced abstract concepts like "Man" and "Earth," let alone any sort of existential threat posed towards them.

I suspect they are being rather generous in interpreting these "signs," and that a certain amount of coaching is most likely involved.

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Gathomas88 said:

IFL - Koko The Gorilla Has A Message For Mankind



Sooo... Long story short, some shady "institute" taught a monkey a parlor trick, and now all the New Age environut types are going gaga over it, hailing the thing as being the "voice of nature."

Nothing to see here folks, move along. :roll:

Why in the Hell does this count as being "science" news again? It seems more indicative of the old adage about a "sucker being born every minute."

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Manc Skipper said:

Koko is not only better informed than most denier cultists, he's more articulate too! Not confined to repetitive Beavis grunting.

What are the odds he's better looking too?

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bg85 said:

I disagree that "all the new age environut types are going gaga over it".

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Gathomas88 said:

IFL - Koko The Gorilla Has A Message For Mankind



Sooo... Long story short, some shady "institute" taught a monkey a parlor trick, and now all the New Age environut types are going gaga over it, hailing the thing as being the "voice of nature."

Nothing to see here folks, move along. :roll:

Why in the Hell does this count as being "science" news again? It seems more indicative of the old adage about a "sucker being born every minute."

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calamity said:

lol...maybe liberals should nominate Koko as Hillary's running mate.

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sangha said:

according to the OP, if one right winger believes something, it's just the opinion of one right winger

If a left winger believes something, every left winger believes it. If an environmentalist believes something, every environmentalist believes it. If a feminist believes it, every feminist believes it

It's a very old shtick and even though no one is buying it, the OP keeps trying it

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Gathomas88 said:

IFL - Koko The Gorilla Has A Message For Mankind



Sooo... Long story short, some shady "institute" taught a monkey a parlor trick, and now all the New Age environut types are going gaga over it, hailing the thing as being the "voice of nature."

Nothing to see here folks, move along. :roll:

Why in the Hell does this count as being "science" news again? It seems more indicative of the old adage about a "sucker being born every minute."

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Risky Thicket said:

With all that deep understanding and well stated opinion what the hell is Koko doing locked up all these years? I don't know, maybe they are protecting her from trophy hunting dentists.

The video is edited and while Koko does sign there was not one complete thought, not one sentence that Koko signed that wasn't edited. Wait, I take that back. She did sign "Man is dumb" which was misinterpreted as "Man is stupid". I wouldn't argue either way.

From all I have read about Koko she is very bright (for a gorilla). She does have a broad vocabulary and she does express thoughts and emotions. Still in all Koko ain't ready for prime time, Fox News? Maybe.

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RAMOSS said:

Or, perhaps they shoudl get her as the republican candidate for president, and have trump as her VP.

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Gathomas88 said:

IFL - Koko The Gorilla Has A Message For Mankind



Sooo... Long story short, some shady "institute" taught a monkey a parlor trick, and now all the New Age environut types are going gaga over it, hailing the thing as being the "voice of nature."

Nothing to see here folks, move along. :roll:

Why in the Hell does this count as being "science" news again? It seems more indicative of the old adage about a "sucker being born every minute."

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calamity said:

Republicans are more apt to shoot a gorilla and mount its head on a wall than believe what it signs to be gospel. For that they listen to voices from invisible men in the sky.

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