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Vladimir Putin’s bombings

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Vladimir Putin’s bombings


The continued bombing by the Syrian regime, backed by Mr. Putin’s war planes, continued this week without letup, repudiating a cease-fire negotiated by Secretary of State John Kerry that wasn’t worth the paper it was printed on.


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Russian bombs have killed 3,804 civilians in Syria including 906 children



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Simpleχity;1066374055 said:
Vladimir Putin’s bombings


The continued bombing by the Syrian regime, backed by Mr. Putin’s war planes, continued this week without letup, repudiating a cease-fire negotiated by Secretary of State John Kerry that wasn’t worth the paper it was printed on.


EC86CEA3-7B15-4F1B-97C5-3A3C53902F06_cx0_cy10_cw0_w987_r1_s_r1.jpg

Russian bombs have killed 3,804 civilians in Syria including 906 children



Related: Putin and Assad Are Outdoing ISIS at Mass Murder

Putin Is Playing by Grozny Rules in Aleppo

Sure Putin is criminal. But we could have stopped him in Ukraine and in Syria. We certainly should have persuaded the neighbourhood to remove Assad immediately with our support. But we didn't so we carry blame and like it or not, it is Obama's war.
 
Simpleχity;1066374055 said:
Vladimir Putin's Bombings

He bombs to protect his interests.

The US bombed in Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq to protect its own.

Or were the US bombs love bombs as opposed to the Russian bombs - the bombs of hate?
 
Sure Putin is criminal. But we could have stopped him in Ukraine and in Syria. We certainly should have persuaded the neighbourhood to remove Assad immediately with our support. But we didn't so we carry blame and like it or not, it is Obama's war.

How so? There was no way to take Crimea from the Russians short of out and out war.
 
The Russians have never been especially concerned with collateral damage. That's not exactly news. We can't exactly expect our geopolitical opponents to half-ass it when it comes to their own self interest.
 
Sure Putin is criminal. But we could have stopped him in Ukraine and in Syria. We certainly should have persuaded the neighbourhood to remove Assad immediately with our support. But we didn't so we carry blame and like it or not, it is Obama's war.

No, you couldn't have. Napoleon tried it. Hitler tried it. You are too weak to fight Russians in Russia.

By what logic is Putin a criminal?

Who the f*** you are to have the authority to decide who rules Syria?
 
He bombs to protect his interests.

The US bombed in Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq to protect its own.

Or were the US bombs love bombs as opposed to the Russian bombs - the bombs of hate?
The difference is Putin/Assad are purposefully targeting hospitals, clinics, mobile aid stations, doctors, nurses, and the White Helmet first responders.

Another Aleppo hospital got bombed this morning...

Dateline: 10.01.2016 8am GMT Aleppo hospital 'hit by barrel bombs'

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Sure Putin is criminal. But we could have stopped him in Ukraine and in Syria. We certainly should have persuaded the neighbourhood to remove Assad immediately with our support. But we didn't so we carry blame and like it or not, it is Obama's war.

Pretty much. The Obama Doctrine has endangered the world through his appeasement and empowerment of dictatorships like Putin's and the CPC.
Don't get me wrong, I think Obama's a good person (unlike Putin and/or Assad), but incredibly naive.
 
The US supported Pinochet, Noriega, Saddam Hussein, the g0tdamn Taliban FFS!, Mubarik, the Contras, the Shah of Iran, Momar Khadaffi, and the Israelis. There's many more, but I'm too drunk to use the googles.

I think Putin is a dangerous man. But before we start pointing fingers...
 
How so? There was no way to take Crimea from the Russians short of out and out war.

We did not convince the Nato allies to accept the Ukraine's application and we did not station troops in Eastern Ukraine and Crimea, before the EU pushed through its fateful trade treaty. Of course, the Europeans are more responsible, but that does not absolve us.
 
The US supported Pinochet, Noriega, Saddam Hussein, the g0tdamn Taliban FFS!, Mubarik, the Contras, the Shah of Iran, Momar Khadaffi, and the Israelis. There's many more, but I'm too drunk to use the googles.

I think Putin is a dangerous man. But before we start pointing fingers...

If you are drunk, your post is understandable.
 
We did not convince the Nato allies to accept the Ukraine's application and we did not station troops in Eastern Ukraine and Crimea, before the EU pushed through its fateful trade treaty. Of course, the Europeans are more responsible, but that does not absolve us.

Americans weren't going to go for putting troops right next door to Russia, especially in a country which has a reputation as corrupt, shakily democratic and riddled with far right thugs.
 
If you are drunk, your post is understandable.

I post my best stuff when I'm drunk. What's your excuse?
 
Simpleχity;1066374781 said:
Keep bending that arm then. Your posts are pretty lame.

buuuurp
 
We did not convince the Nato allies to accept the Ukraine's application and we did not station troops in Eastern Ukraine and Crimea, before the EU pushed through its fateful trade treaty. Of course, the Europeans are more responsible, but that does not absolve us.

You are talking crazy s***. What Russia does with Ukraine or Crimea is an internal matter between the ex-Soviet republics.

To suggest that the US should risk a nuclear confrontation with Russia in Russia is a lunacy that defies description.

You Americans are really something else and not in a good way. You got beat by Vietcong and you want to screw with the Russians - in Russia!!!

Still confused? If Texas went independent and decided to form a military alliance with Russia (or China), and the feds tried to grab Texas back, can Russia bring its troops here to protect Texas?

Still confused? OK. Stay the hell away from policing the world and start policing your own damn borders, and repairing your decaying railroads, bridges, and schools.
 
You are talking crazy s***. What Russia does with Ukraine or Crimea is an internal matter between the ex-Soviet republics.
Sorry. United Nations General Assembly Resolution 68/262 says otherwise.

It's hard to believe a so-called 'Conservative' is defending Russian aggression.

Thank God Ronnie isn't here to see what is happening in politics today.
 
Simpleχity;1066374830 said:
Thank God Ronnie isn't here to see what is happening in politics today.
If he were, he'd likely be waging an illegal war in Nicaragua from proceeds from selling arms to the Iranians behind Congress' backs.
 
Simpleχity;1066374830 said:
Sorry. United Nations General Assembly Resolution 68/262 says otherwise.

It's hard to believe a so-called 'Conservative' is defending Russian aggression.

Thank God Ronnie isn't here to see what is happening in politics today.

What UN says does not matter squat because UN is an organization that allows the most oppressive regimes to be its members and participate in the human rights commissions.

But for the US vetoes, Israel would not exist today.

I am not defending Russian aggression. I am telling you, Americans, to mind your own business - especially where Russia is concerned.

And when I read how the US should have done some nonsense like "stopping Russia" in Crimea or Ukraine, I wonder if the proponents are mentally ill.
 
How so? There was no way to take Crimea from the Russians short of out and out war.

The mistake in Ukraine was made, when Nato turned down the application and did not station troops in Crimea before the EU pressured Kiew to sign the trade treaty.
 
No, you couldn't have. Napoleon tried it. Hitler tried it. You are too weak to fight Russians in Russia.

By what logic is Putin a criminal?

Who the f*** you are to have the authority to decide who rules Syria?

Don't be silly. Even Putin would not have attacked Nato troops had they been stationed in Crimea. And as to Syria, I would say that after removing the criminal thugocracy, the UN should maintain the peace till democratic process is well established and has achieved at least five stable administrations.
 
You are talking crazy s***. What Russia does with Ukraine or Crimea is an internal matter between the ex-Soviet republics.

To suggest that the US should risk a nuclear confrontation with Russia in Russia is a lunacy that defies description.

You Americans are really something else and not in a good way. You got beat by Vietcong and you want to screw with the Russians - in Russia!!!

Still confused? If Texas went independent and decided to form a military alliance with Russia (or China), and the feds tried to grab Texas back, can Russia bring its troops here to protect Texas?

Still confused? OK. Stay the hell away from policing the world and start policing your own damn borders, and repairing your decaying railroads, bridges, and schools.

Not at all. Crimea was is an internal issue of Ukraine and Russia seized it with military means. IT would not have done so, had Nato accepted the Ukrainian application for membership and stationed the troops in Ukraine, that their government wanted.
The US was not very interested in Russia for a decade, but now has been forced by Putin to classify it as an enemy. This is rapidly happening in European countries as well, where the elites have been caught out by surprise. In the Western politicians were largely of the opinion that Russia was a benevolent partner and ignored the warnings emanating from the Eastern countries, who were extremely nervous and that were expecting Russian malice.

As it turned out, they were right. The Russians are as irrationally dangerous as the have been for centuries and we were much too soft in dealing with them.
 
No, you couldn't have. Napoleon tried it. Hitler tried it. You are too weak to fight Russians in Russia.

By what logic is Putin a criminal?

Who the f*** you are to have the authority to decide who rules Syria?

The US is above the law--that's what the Unitary Executive is all about, sophistry advanced by the Neocons and loved by Obama.

We decide who is good and bad in this world, and we can and do kill as we please with no need at all for judicial oversight.
 
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