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Marine Corps may replace 'The Few, The Proud' as its recruiting slogan

I know what "cuck" means, and I know the types of people who actually use it in a serious fashion. They're generally people I have little use for.
Nietzsche: "Sometimes one remains loyal to a cause only because it's opponents do not cease to be insipid."



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Sure, and that's fine and expected, and part of the military culture. Lord knows we've had plenty of fun at yall's expense.

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Ain't that the truth. About 3 weeks ago we were doing some work with a platoon from Force Recon out here in Okie as we generally do 4 or 5 times a year. Great dudes and I always enjoy working with them. That said its hard not to mess with them. The amount of silliness they have to put up with compared to what we do is just ridiculous. A perfect example was while getting ready to redeploy from a country where we were doing some work. We were downloading our gear at the embassy. We just cleared our weapons put our mags back in our kit boxes and loaded it on a C17. The FR guys were forced to not only download every magazine but put each round back on its stripper clip. We simply store unused ammo in our aha and use it up the next time we go to the range. Apparently they have different rules. It was hard not to mess with them while they were sitting there doing it.
It's all in good fun and we both respect each other but it sure helps pass the time.
 
I like it too. :shrug: that doesn't mean the new thing is going to suck. Marines tend to hew to mutually contradictory positions about the Marine Corps and it's advertising, both mocking and enjoying the ethos-message.

Personally, 8 years, and I never got to fight a single dang dragon :(. Stupid commercial lied to me.

Yeah...no fire monsters either, eh?
 
What am I missing? How do the marines fight for what's right in our communities?

That's the first thing that flew out at me. Our communities? What about the Posse Comitatus Act (for those that don't know, the purpose of the act – in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807 – is to limit the powers of the federal government in using federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States)? Are they referring to Toys For Tots? If so, I can't see that as being a recruiting tool; advertising for community relations, sure, but recruiting?

Anyway, I look forward to seeing what they came up with, and I will reserve my personal judgement until it's released.
 
I think this is wonderfully sensitive. "The few, the proud" just reeks of the kind of elitism and egotism that makes all those who don't qualify feel invalidated and icky. All this chest-beating, fighting stuff is so yesterday in an enlightened era of equality. If this awful country showed more consideration to the rest of the world that is not privileged white males, we wouldn't need a marine corps to go stalking around the world slaughtering poor non-white, non-Xtian people. Love them, and they will love us back.
 
I'd like to add one thing to this thread that may be lost on a lot of folks that are not or have never been in the military:

First, the US Army has the Army Special Forces Command headquartered at Ft. Bragg; the US Air Force has the Air Force Special Operations Command headquartered at Hurlburt Field, and; the US Navy has the Navy Special Warfare Command headquartered at Naval Amphibious Base Coronado -- however, even though the US Marine Corps has the United States Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command (MARSOC) as it's integration point for the United States Special Operations Command (SOCOM), the entire Marine Corps is in essence an entire force made up of Special Forces/Special Operations/Special Warfare as a whole.

Second, as a combat medic I have treated a number of Marines in my time, and although some of them may have been blown to hell by shrapnel at times, their gunshot wounds from the enemy were always in the front. If you're not sure what that means, ask a Marine.

I never met a Marine that I couldn't rely upon in combat, nor that I didn't feel comfortable and safe having them cover my six. (Now, off duty, and drunk... that's a whole other story that I won't get into here)

If they can come up with a slogan that can relay that, then they may have another good one like "the few, the proud."
 
"Look Sharp, Be Sharp, Go Army!" END 1971....Top Shelf

"Today's Army Wants to Join You"END 1980....I get the reason they thought this was a good idea, but no.

"Be All You Can Be"END 2001...Top Shelf

Army of One"END 2006....no one understood it, crap from start to finish.

"Army Strong"Current....Middling.

It's almost as if they're not trying to appeal to 50y/o's, and are instead trying to appeal to the millennial generation because, oh, i don't know, that's the generation where they get most of their recruits now?

You're meant to target advertising towards your market. You're not the market anymore.
 
Yeah...no fire monsters either, eh?
Nah. I did get one of them - but it was disappointing. Turns out they are smaller in real life. :(

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I'd like to add one thing to this thread that may be lost on a lot of folks that are not or have never been in the military:

First, the US Army has the Army Special Forces Command headquartered at Ft. Bragg; the US Air Force has the Air Force Special Operations Command headquartered at Hurlburt Field, and; the US Navy has the Navy Special Warfare Command headquartered at Naval Amphibious Base Coronado -- however, even though the US Marine Corps has the United States Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command (MARSOC) as it's integration point for the United States Special Operations Command (SOCOM), the entire Marine Corps is in essence an entire force made up of Special Forces/Special Operations/Special Warfare as a whole.

Second, as a combat medic I have treated a number of Marines in my time, and although some of them may have been blown to hell by shrapnel at times, their gunshot wounds from the enemy were always in the front. If you're not sure what that means, ask a Marine.

I never met a Marine that I couldn't rely upon in combat, nor that I didn't feel comfortable and safe having them cover my six. (Now, off duty, and drunk... that's a whole other story that I won't get into here)

If they can come up with a slogan that can relay that, then they may have another good one like "the few, the proud."


I would say you are using the term special operations rather loosely if trying to describe all of the Marine Corps. Don't get me wrong the Marines as a whole are much better then the Army but how exactly are their administrative clerks, refrigeration mechanics or their food sevice specialists just to name a few SO. As was discussed in another thread there are Marine units that do virtually no tactical training and only go to the range for yealy quals.

Even when it comes to their infantry in my experience their average platoon is better then your Army average platoon but not by much and the same as those from the 82nd. Furthermore a huge part of the definition of SO is accomplishing missions through unconventional means. That's not infantry work. It's pretty much as basic military as you can get.

Now if you had just said a branch with higher standards then the Army then sure without a doubt. But to me at least calling all of the Marine Corps Special Operations is just a bit much.
 
Second, as a combat medic I have treated a number of Marines in my time, and although some of them may have been blown to hell by shrapnel at times, their gunshot wounds from the enemy were always in the front. If you're not sure what that means, ask a Marine.

I never met a Marine that I couldn't rely upon in combat, nor that I didn't feel comfortable and safe having them cover my six. (Now, off duty, and drunk... that's a whole other story that I won't get into here)
When you say you were a medic, I can assume you were Army? Otherwise you'd say corpsman, right?

Regardless, you're the man. The Marines don't have medics, but the Marines LOVE their corpsmen. The medics don't get infantry school, yet they're suddenly assigned to an infantry unit and expected to do the same things as an infantry Marine. And normally, they do it well. They can hike 25 miles with a huge pack, and they keep up. When everyone is pinned down, a medic will run out into fire to save you.

True heroes. Godspeed to you.
 
I think this is wonderfully sensitive. "The few, the proud" just reeks of the kind of elitism and egotism that makes all those who don't qualify feel invalidated and icky. All this chest-beating, fighting stuff is so yesterday in an enlightened era of equality. If this awful country showed more consideration to the rest of the world that is not privileged white males, we wouldn't need a marine corps to go stalking around the world slaughtering poor non-white, non-Xtian people. Love them, and they will love us back.
Those egotistical chest beaters keep us safe. If you go overseas and need help, the closest savior you have is those Marines sitting on a ship chomping at the bit to come get you. It's true. Marines are jerks. I was a Marine, and I'm a jerk.

But who do you want coming to get you when you're in trouble? Do you want a pansy to come get you? Or do you want an a$$hole to come get you? I want a bunch of a$$holes to come get me out.

There are two different types of a$$holes in the world. Good and bad. And we need good a$$holes to protect us from the bad a$$holes. And I'm proud to have been a good a$$hole.
 
I would say you are using the term special operations rather loosely if trying to describe all of the Marine Corps. Don't get me wrong the Marines as a whole are much better then the Army but how exactly are their administrative clerks, refrigeration mechanics or their food sevice specialists just to name a few SO. As was discussed in another thread there are Marine units that do virtually no tactical training and only go to the range for yealy quals. .
This is unfair, once again, to the admin guys that have been to MCT for four weeks for infantry training. No, they're not elite, but if you raid an airbase with some admin or airwinger Marines present, they WILL pick up a rifle and maneuver against you. They've had the training and they're fit. Marines don't allow slobs or fatties. Even a secretary in the Marines can repel your invasion and do it impressively.
 
When you say you were a medic, I can assume you were Army? Otherwise you'd say corpsman, right?

Regardless, you're the man. The Marines don't have medics, but the Marines LOVE their corpsmen. The medics don't get infantry school, yet they're suddenly assigned to an infantry unit and expected to do the same things as an infantry Marine. And normally, they do it well. They can hike 25 miles with a huge pack, and they keep up. When everyone is pinned down, a medic will run out into fire to save you.

True heroes. Godspeed to you.

Thank you. Godspeed to you as well.

I was an Air Force Combat Medic that went in with any of the branches depending on the mission assignment. And your correct, when everyone else is pinned down by enemy fire or down in enemy held territory, we would be called in to get them out, similar to Navy Corpsmen, except we flew in, jumped in, rode in, walked in, ran in, or crawled in, depending on the terrain and the enemy positions.
 
Thank you. Godspeed to you as well.

I was an Air Force Combat Medic that went in with any of the branches depending on the mission assignment. And your correct, when everyone else is pinned down by enemy fire or down in enemy held territory, we would be called in to get them out, similar to Navy Corpsmen, except we flew in, jumped in, rode in, walked in, ran in, or crawled in, depending on the terrain and the enemy positions.
My cousin was AF rescue. And she was the very first of women to have that role. She had some good stories. And I might say, damn, she's super hot. She's 40 something now and still super hard and hot. She's just a distant cousin by marriage, so I think it's ok to say that.

But yeah, I would want her saving me any day. She knew her sh1t. AF knows their stuff, and I'd be happy to see you guys if I were in trouble.
 
This is unfair, once again, to the admin guys that have been to MCT for four weeks for infantry training. No, they're not elite, but if you raid an airbase with some admin or airwinger Marines present, they WILL pick up a rifle and maneuver against you. They've had the training and they're fit. Marines don't allow slobs or fatties. Even a secretary in the Marines can repel your invasion and do it impressively.

There is a significant difference between someone who will only pick up a rifle to defend them self and any of the actual units within SOCOM. Plus when you have Marine units that never train to conduct any kind of tactical operations and only go to the range to qual I doubt their defense would be that impressive.
 
There is a significant difference between someone who will only pick up a rifle to defend them self and any of the actual units within SOCOM. Plus when you have Marine units that never train to conduct any kind of tactical operations and only go to the range to qual I doubt their defense would be that impressive.
You keep showing every real warrior how little you know and what a pogue you are. Pogues know nothing.
 
You keep showing every real warrior how little you know and what a pogue you are. Pogues know nothing.

Really because what I just stated was backed up by a Marine still serving. So tell us again how little I know. It just makes you look more ridiculous.
 
Really because what I just stated was backed up by a Marine still serving. So tell us again how little I know. It just makes you look more ridiculous.

Ask your Marine buddy to read my posts. Perhaps he might agree.

And ask your Marine if he's ever heard of "School Circle Rear Hatch." I can't imagine you'd find any civie that would know about that.
 
Ask your Marine buddy to read my posts. Perhaps he might agree.

And ask your Marine if he's ever heard of "School Circle Rear Hatch." I can't imagine you'd find any civie that would know about that.
He is not my buddy. He is a poster on this board. If you have questions feel free to ask him yourself.
 
Ask your Marine buddy to read my posts. Perhaps he might agree.

And ask your Marine if he's ever heard of "School Circle Rear Hatch." I can't imagine you'd find any civie that would know about that.

Build me a Throne!
Aye Sir!

Eyeballs!
Click!


I did 4 years as an 0351, and a little over 4 years as a POG. I've seen both sides.
 
Build me a Throne!
Aye Sir!

Eyeballs!
Click!


I did 4 years as an 0351, and a little over 4 years as a POG. I've seen both sides.

I want to hear about "Build me a throne." I haven't heard of that one, but it sounds like some typical hilarious bootcamp shenanigans. :)

My least favorite was "Frogger" where you have to squat all the way to the deck and then try to jump up and touch the ceiling. That one starts to hurt pretty fast.

And then "Easychair" where you go to the quarterdeck and put your back against the bulkhead with your knees bent like you're sitting. And you're like, "This ain't so bad." But then after an hour, it's pretty bad.

And then a funny one was to "Go on a quest!" You just grabbed your gear and had to disappear for a while and run around. And if you didn't come back drenched in sweat, then you had to go on another quest. And then another, until you got it right. And of course just running around PI alone with a pack, some DI would stop you to ask WTF are you doing. And you'd just say, "This recruit is on a quest, Sir!"
 
I want to hear about "Build me a throne." I haven't heard of that one, but it sounds like some typical hilarious bootcamp shenanigans. :)

Senior Drill Instructors get thrones built for them out of footlockers for them to sit on while they instruct, speak, hand out mail, etc. Maybe it's just an East Coast thing?

My least favorite was "Frogger" where you have to squat all the way to the deck and then try to jump up and touch the ceiling. That one starts to hurt pretty fast.

And then "Easychair" where you go to the quarterdeck and put your back against the bulkhead with your knees bent like you're sitting. And you're like, "This ain't so bad." But then after an hour, it's pretty bad.

Yup. Ever been broken off with a magazine and a bootband?

And then a funny one was to "Go on a quest!" You just grabbed your gear and had to disappear for a while and run around. And if you didn't come back drenched in sweat, then you had to go on another quest. And then another, until you got it right. And of course just running around PI alone with a pack, some DI would stop you to ask WTF are you doing. And you'd just say, "This recruit is on a quest, Sir!"

:lol: that was way more freedom than we ever got. That would have been a nice change of pace. The closest I ever saw to that was a recruit that had gotten told "run that way", and the DI had forgotten about him long enough for him to sprint out of sight. That recruit ran for miles, happy as a clam to be running and away from the platoon.
 
Senior Drill Instructors get thrones built for them out of footlockers for them to sit on while they instruct, speak, hand out mail, etc. Maybe it's just an East Coast thing?
I was East Coast. I don't remember them ever doing that. They always stood in front of us and paced around for "School Circle Rear Hatch." And we didn't have much interaction with our Senior. He was a gunny and about to retire and didn't seem to care much. Which meant the heavy, medium, and junior DI had most of the "Playtime" they wanted.

Edit: And I don't remember saying "click." I think we said "Snap!"
 
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I was East Coast. I don't remember them ever doing that. They always stood in front of us and paced around for "School Circle Rear Hatch." And we didn't have much interaction with our Senior. He was a gunny and about to retire and didn't seem to care much. Which meant the heavy, medium, and junior DI had most of the "Playtime" they wanted.

Edit: And I don't remember saying "click." I think we said "Snap!"

"Snap" was for our heads to shift from staring directly ahead to facing the speaker. "Click" was for our eyeballs - permission to look at him instead of "through" him, so to speak. It was intended as a "Pay attention to this" prompt.

I got injured and ended up in MRP, and so had a couple of SDI's. Two of them used thrones, two didn't :shrug:

:lol: and that sucks that your Senior left you to the tender mercies of your Heavy and Kill Hats. Oh well, at least you got good PT, I suppose :mrgreen:
 
:lol: and that sucks that your Senior left you to the tender mercies of your Heavy and Kill Hats. Oh well, at least you got good PT, I suppose :mrgreen:

It's true, I guess. When we left boot we all looked like cancer patients. Skinny and drawn faces. Some other platoons looked like they'd been hitting the weights. Like Linebackers.

I know that boot is supposed to break you down and the Corps will build you back up. But we sure were jealous of those Adonis looking guys we always saw in the chow hall. All of my platoon, 1108, were so skinny and sickly looking.

Sgts. Easley or Larcom or Hartman... If you're reading this, I still hate you.
 
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