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Brewdog said:
Well, I've met those douches. Many times. I was being kind when I compared Rangers to Marine infantry.
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That's nice that you have met them. I have also met Marines that were douches. What difference does that make. And how you compare them really doesn't matter. It doesn't change the fact that they hold higher standards and are better trained then Marine infantry.
Tell me you are making all these claims of what unit is better then what unit. What exact experience do you have actually working with any of those units.
 
Can we just get this out of the way? It's difficult for me to give any credence to someone that has no idea what the difference in "then" and "than" is. Perhaps I'm a grammar Nazi, but anyone in any sort of SF position should know basic ****ing grammar.
 
Brewdog said:
Can we just get this out of the way? It's difficult for me to give any credence to someone that has no idea what the difference in "then" and "than" is. Perhaps I'm a grammar Nazi, but anyone in any sort of SF position should know basic ****ing grammar.
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It's an Internet forum that I post on from my iPhone. Don't really care.
 
Brewdog said:
Here's one for the "SF" guy that claims Marines don't do rescues or HRT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T4TiAa2Ux8
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First I said they won't be called on to rescue American hostages which is a big difference. Furthermore yes I am sure you can find a YouTube video of just about any military unit doing just about anything. What it really comes down to is if there are Americans held hostage somewhere Marines are not going to be the force sent in to rescue them. That's it. End of story.

Ps I noticed you were not interested in making a bet on if I can prove I am what I claim I am. Interesting how you just ignored that. Just like after you talked about which unit is best and I asked you what actual experience you had working with those units you simply ignored that to. I wonder why. Actually the more of your posts I read the more convinced I am you never spent a day in the military. Probably because you are still in highschool would be my guess.
 
braindrain said:
Actually the more of your posts I read the more convinced I am you never spent a day in the military. Probably because you are still in highschool would be my guess.
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Yep, you caught me.
 
braindrain said:
First I said they won't be called on to rescue American hostages which is a big difference. Furthermore yes I am sure you can find a YouTube video of just about any military unit doing just about anything. .
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I'm just curious how these Marines knew how to conduct this raid so efficiently and take out these pirates. Since they don't do raids, and stuff.
 
Brewdog said:
I'm just curious how these Marines knew how to conduct this raid so efficiently and take out these pirates. Since they don't do raids, and stuff.
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What's funny is you think a raid is the same thing as HR. Shows just how little you know on this topic.
 
Brewdog said:
Yep, you caught me.
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Well like I said it was just my guess. You might never have served for a variety of reasons but you sure don't sound like anyone who made it past basic training.
 
braindrain said:
What's funny is you think a raid is the same thing as HR. Shows just how little you know on this topic.
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You are seemingly out of your mind. I give you link after link of Marines performing hostage rescue. Yet , you're NOT EVEN A MARINE! And you know so much about our mission. How odd.

You apparently have something personal against the USMC. Maybe a Marine stole your wife? It's all I can figure the hate.

If a Marine stole your booty, then you likely deserved it for being a beta Army. Join the Marines and be ALPHA, mate.
 
Brewdog said:
You are seemingly out of your mind. I give you link after link of Marines performing hostage rescue. Yet , you're NOT EVEN A MARINE! And you know so much about our mission. How odd.

You apparently have something personal against the USMC. Maybe a Marine stole your wife? It's all I can figure the hate.

If a Marine stole your booty, then you likely deserved it for being a beta Army. Join the Marines and be ALPHA, mate.
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And what I said was they will not be sent in to rescue American hostages. Which they were not in you little video.
Maybe you didn't even watch your own video is that the problem. Tell me why exactly do you think that in all the known hostage rescue operations that have been conducted to free US citizens in the last few decades none have been conducted by Marines. Even the Maersk Alabama which if there ever was an operation that should have been in the Marines lane that was it.

Yes I have such a such a personal problem with Marines that I have repeatedly said the Marines as a whole are better then the Army. The issue is my knowledge is from actual experiences and from working in the special operations field for a decade while yours appears to be based off what friends told you, movies and recruiting videos.

You think Marines are the Alphas in the military. Lol that's silly. Is that why when ever we do training out here in Okie Marines act as our outer perimeter or support element while we hit the target. Your funny.
 
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braindrain said:
Your funny.
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And "your" a real scholar. I know SPECOPS, and they know the difference in then and than. They know the difference between you're and your.

And you're a fake.
 
Brewdog said:
And "your" a real scholar. I know SPECOPS, and they know the difference in then and than. They know the difference between you're and your.

And you're a fake.
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Only clowns that have never spent a day in special operations call it SPECOPS. You have no idea about any of it. But keep talking. It is funny reading the nonsense from someone who has no idea what they are talking about.
 
braindrain said:
Only clowns that have never spent a day in special operations call it SPECOPS. You have no idea about any of it. But keep talking. It is funny reading the nonsense from someone who has no idea what they are talking about.
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Sure, they don't call it that. I saw that in some movie.
 
Brewdog said:
Sure, they don't call it that. I saw that in some movie.
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I don't doubt you did. It sounds like all you military knowledge comes from playing call of duty. Sad.
 
braindrain said:
I don't doubt you did. It sounds like all you military knowledge comes from playing call of duty. Sad.
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Funny how I posted the original OP so that a conversation of the the differences between the Army and the Marines could be discussed. Unfortunately this brought YOU into the discussion. You have drained your brain dude have now have zero credibility...yet you, like so many head-dead posters, have an agenda to push and will not be in any way swayed from it. No different than any political mini-thinker on any other board in any other world. You must have the last word no matter how you have been beaten down. I have never met a poster so intent on fortifying their lack of knowledge than you.

PS we all know you can't give up. The last word is, after all, the last word.
 
kanabco said:
Funny how I posted the original OP so that a conversation of the the differences between the Army and the Marines could be discussed. Unfortunately this brought YOU into the discussion. You have drained your brain dude have now have zero credibility...yet you, like so many head-dead posters, have an agenda to push and will not be in any way swayed from it. No different than any political mini-thinker on any other board in any other world. You must have the last word no matter how you have been beaten down. I have never met a poster so intent on fortifying their lack of knowledge than you.

PS we all know you can't give up. The last word is, after all, the last word.
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What's funny is all I commented on was that the every Marine a rifleman bit is more myth then fact. Which was supported by an active duty Marine in this very thread. Yet somehow you who a person who admitted to having zero tactical training meaning you never spent a day in the military thinks you know more. And you think I have a credibility problem. Lol that's rather funny.

So why don't you inform me of your vast knowledge on this topic and exactly how you came by it. Let me guess you watched some movie somewhere.

And what exactly is my agenda here. I have stated several times that the Marine Corps as a whole is better then the Army so why don't you tell me what you think my agenda is.
 
braindrain said:
What's funny is all I commented on was that the every Marine a rifleman bit is more myth then fact.
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I've qualified on Army rifle ranges. Do you know how ridiculously easy that is for a Marine? Even a Marine that merely qualifies as marksman? The popup, green, plastic, man-sized targets? Do you have any idea how close those large green targets are compared to the tiny bullseyes at 500 yards on the Marine ranges? Of course you don't.

I don't know if Marines still have to qual with iron sights. I hope they do. Using a scope or a RedDot is a crutch.
 
Brewdog said:
I've qualified on Army rifle ranges. Do you know how ridiculously easy that is for a Marine? Even a Marine that merely qualifies as marksman? The popup, green, plastic, man-sized targets? Do you have any idea how close those large green targets are compared to the tiny bullseyes at 500 yards on the Marine ranges? Of course you don't.

I don't know if Marines still have to qual with iron sights. I hope they do. Using a scope or a RedDot is a crutch.
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That's nice. To bad it doesn't change the fact that a Marine unit that does no tactical training never goes to the field and only goes to the range when it's time to qual is not a unit made up of rifleman in any meaningful use of the word.

I do agree that the Army qualification test is a joke. I also have known Marines that couldn't shoot worth a dam. When my brother went from active duty to reserve Marine Corps one of his biggest reasons for getting out all together was when they would do their quals a few of the NCOs that couldn't shot for crap would just simply fudge their scores at the range. So their are issues everywhere.
 
braindrain said:
I also have known Marines that couldn't shoot worth a dam.
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I haven't. Lee Oswald was a ****ty shooter under Marine Corps standards.

braindrain said:
When my brother went from active duty to reserve Marine Corps one of his biggest reasons for getting out all together was when they would do their quals a few of the NCOs that couldn't shot for crap would just simply fudge their scores at the range. So their are issues everywhere.
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Now you're calling Marines liars. They lie about their range scores? I didn't see it. Perhaps your brother has experiences I didn't. But if an NCO can't make his shooting score, how did he pass in the first place? Were his DI's liars? Did his eyesight go bad later? Is his CO also a liar to pass him if he's not fit to be a Marine?

It seems that you have doubts about the integrity of the Marines. And the Marines I knew had integrity.
 
Brewdog said:
I haven't. Lee Oswald was a ****ty shooter under Marine Corps standards.


Now you're calling Marines liars. They lie about their range scores? I didn't see it. Perhaps your brother has experiences I didn't. But if an NCO can't make his shooting score, how did he pass in the first place? Were his DI's liars? Did his eyesight go bad later? Is his CO also a liar to pass him if he's not fit to be a Marine?

It seems that you have doubts about the integrity of the Marines. And the Marines I knew had integrity.
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Well then you haven't met that many Marines then. Don't know what to tell you.

No my brother, a Marine, is the one that said it was going on. Most likely the reason he could no longer pass was because the only went to the range when it was time to qual and didn't shoot their rifles the rest of the year.
And sorry if you don't think their are Marines that lie then you really have not met many many Marines. Just like every group of people there are going to be some that are crappy people. Their are Marines that are liars, thieves, murderers, rapists, and child abusers. Just like within every branch. The fact that you seem to think otherwise makes me really doubt that you have any actual experience with the Marinr Corps.
 
braindrain said:
Well then you haven't met that many Marines then. Don't know what to tell you.

No my brother, a Marine, is the one that said it was going on.
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Your own brother? OMG! that makes you right, right?
I only wish to jump back in here once in awhile to point out the almost religious/political grip you have on being right. You are being the Donald Trump of this thread. Why? Is it all about losing? Do you have to be right on a point of arguing (bloviating) something as inconsequential as rifle drills, Donald?
Amazing.
 
kanabco said:
Your own brother? OMG! that makes you right, right?
I only wish to jump back in here once in awhile to point out the almost religious/political grip you have on being right. You are being the Donald Trump of this thread. Why? Is it all about losing? Do you have to be right on a point of arguing (bloviating) something as inconsequential as rifle drills, Donald?
Amazing.
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What's funny is you are doing the exact same thing. You keep coming on here trying to claim you are right. So to pretend it's wrong for me but ok for you is just pathetic

I hate to tell you this but this is a debate site. The purpose is to discuss things. If you don't like it then log off. If I feel like talking about it I will any time I wish. And it's not about losing its about the truth. I am not going to just say ok you are right when you are wrong and have zero idea what you are talking about.


It's an example of somethings from a Marine. Who obviously knows more then you. I have also worked with many Marines in a tactical environment which is more then you have ever done. There is a currently serving Marine who backs up my claims.

So tell me how exactly you know more then me.
 
braindrain said:
So tell me how exactly you know more then me.
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"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." --Mark Twain
 
Brewdog said:
"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." --Mark Twain
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Says the guy who no a Marines lie.
 
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