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More F35 bad news

eohrnberger said:
One of the related things is that all the chip fabs are off shore anymore.
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For our military aircraft? Would be interested in reading up on that since I know Boeing and Lockheed makes thousands of their components either on campus or in companies they own in the USA.
 
kanabco said:
For our military aircraft? Would be interested in reading up on that since I know Boeing and Lockheed makes thousands of their components either on campus or in companies they own in the USA.
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Google up Intel, AMD, Arm chip fan. I do believe they are all off shore. Now if the military gets their chips from there, I don't know, but hard to imagine that their contractors don't use commercial chips.

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American said:
I'll bet our enemies are breathing a sigh of relief, knowing our aircraft won't be ready for years.
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Yeah, 'cos the level of air superiority they have will only be challenged by this aircraft... Oh hang on....
 
Tim the plumber said:
Yeah, 'cos the level of air superiority they have will only be challenged by this aircraft... Oh hang on....
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No, but they are catching up. Our constant mismanagement of aviation platform programs over the last 30 years has cost us dearly.
 
eohrnberger said:
Google up Intel, AMD, Arm chip fan. I do believe they are all off shore. Now if the military gets their chips from there, I don't know, but hard to imagine that their contractors don't use commercial chips.

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I get ya on that kind of electronics. I'll have to ask. However I do know that we manufacture ICs for our own firmware. I think we use more motorola stuff made in Arizona.
 
kanabco said:
The Pentagon Director of Operational Testing and Evaluation (DOT&E) has come up with three major issues with the F35 (A-Week Aug 23 2016)

1-The flapper door that opens up over the gatling gun causes yaw which f***ks up the aiming. Accuracy testing was to begin this year. No way... probably 2018 now.
2-Software freeze/stall and reboot happening far too often
3-Testing aircraft not ready.... two additional years to wait.
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And somehow US managed to sell these aircrafts.
 
American said:
No, but they are catching up. Our constant mismanagement of aviation platform programs over the last 30 years has cost us dearly.
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It has not cost you anything yet. It might one day maybe.

The advances in pilot-less platforms and information nets are already making manner fighters obsolecent.

The best army issued sword ever was made in 1910. Not much use by then.
 
Tim the plumber said:
It has not cost you anything yet. It might one day maybe.

The advances in pilot-less platforms and information nets are already making manner fighters obsolecent.

The best army issued sword ever was made in 1910. Not much use by then.
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It cost us a lot of money, time wasted and a lack of a new fighter.
 
American said:
I'll bet our enemies are breathing a sigh of relief, knowing our aircraft won't be ready for years.
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We have plenty of militarily capable aircraft already. The F-35 is just a shiny toy that nobody needs or wants.
 
American said:
No, but they are catching up. Our constant mismanagement of aviation platform programs over the last 30 years has cost us dearly.
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Obama's fault.
 
Tim the plumber said:
It has not cost you anything yet. It might one day maybe.

The advances in pilot-less platforms and information nets are already making manner fighters obsolecent.

The best army issued sword ever was made in 1910. Not much use by then.
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Hasn't cost us anything other than the ****load of money?
 
Deuce said:
Obama's fault.
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See you have no idea about any of this. I doubt you've ever been near an aviation program. So all you got is this nonsense post. No one mention the stupid turd.
 
American said:
See you have no idea about any of this. I doubt you've ever been near an aviation program. So all you got is this nonsense post. No one mention the stupid turd.
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Keep this post in mind next time you state "Bush's fault" in a thread where nobody has brought up Bush.

Incidentally, I've been flying planes for seventeen years.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Government and technology equals chaos.

Canada has a new payroll system, some civil servants haven't been paid since March.

Oh, it was the Conservatives who chose the cheapest system.
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Just like the computer system for the long gun registry the liberals chose...
 
it has problems, but there are already 170 of them in the air. the problems will be solved.
 
QuadpolarNutjob said:
it has problems, but there are already 170 of them in the air. the problems will be solved.
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Yeah, because Congress will keep throwing money at it until it technically meets its contractual requirements.
 
eohrnberger said:
LOL. Yeah, that'd be a mistake, what a mess that was. Just goes to show you, if you really want something screwed up, let the government do it.
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Ignorance IS bliss.... fact is many private sector major roll-outs are epic fails costing millions of dollars with little if anything to show for it. They are not political footballs for the rabid right so those failures aren't as 'funny'... :peace
 
cpwill said:
I can't wait for this level of efficiency and competency to be brought to our healthcare
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More like both the DoD and healthcare need to be shuck of their protective cocoon of special interests, lobbyists and revolving door employment to bring about true accountability. No more third rail of rabid right politics... :peace
 
notquiteright said:
Ignorance IS bliss.... fact is many private sector major roll-outs are epic fails costing millions of dollars with little if anything to show for it. They are not political footballs for the rabid right so those failures aren't as 'funny'... :peace
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I rather doubt that the private sector screws up as much, as badly or with as much money at stake as the public sector.

Even if the private sector did, the money a company spends on a failed business idea / event is theirs to spend, where as the government's money is the people's money. Quite a bit different.

The electorate should be expecting / demanding better performance, and not continue to tolerate worse performance.
 
notquiteright said:
More like both the DoD and healthcare need to be shuck of their protective cocoon of special interests, lobbyists and revolving door employment to bring about true accountability.
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[emoji38] sure. We just need government to not function like government, and then the government won't come with the government's problems.

If men acted like you describe, no government would be necessary in the first place.


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notquiteright said:
Ignorance IS bliss.... fact is many private sector major roll-outs are epic fails costing millions of dollars with little if anything to show for it. They are not political footballs for the rabid right so those failures aren't as 'funny'... :peace
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Name two.

Two that did not have anything to do with government in the last ten years...and please remember the word "epic".
 
Fearandloathing said:
And because they have, those who haven't yet, see the bad performance and issues and have decide not to.

Read about a car made by Ford a long time ago. The Edsel sold too....
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I think Israel bought these aircrafts even though they knew about the malfunctions.
 
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