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Planning to Go Into Marines---Advice?

The Marines are the best and have the coolest uniforms! I joined the reserves as advised by my brother who was also in the Marines at the time, but wish I would've joined active and did whatever it took to become an officer. If you're 26 or 28 years old and you find the Marines aren't for you as a career, you go out into the civilian world with 8-10 experience with awesome leadership skills and a degree...that sounds like someone any business owner would want to hire. Also, make sure you sign up for the G.I. Bill in boot camp. You don't (or at least you didn't when I was in) automatically get it, you actually have to sign up for it.

That's another plus in my book---buisness owners know you can work hard if you've been in the military. I will definitely make sure I sign up for GI Bill then if you don't automatically get entered in.

The officers still get the sword, right?
 
That's another plus in my book---buisness owners know you can work hard if you've been in the military. I will definitely make sure I sign up for GI Bill then if you don't automatically get entered in.

The officers still get the sword, right?

Not sure about the sword.
 
I've always wanted to be a marine since I was a little kid---being part of something bigger than me and protecting my country and all. I do want to go to college, but I'm not in a hurry in regards to that and through the military I won't have to pay for it either when I do decide to continue ,my schooling.

It's entirely possible I may make a career out of the military but first I would have to get in-first thing's first and all haha

I'm not sure as to what I'd want to do once I get out of the military


Some people try to go to school while in....I finished my degree while active duty

That will be more difficult in the marines....if not nearly impossible

You will have the ability to go to school after, which is fine.....

But the marines are the worst as far as trying to learn something useful outside of the corps....

But the marines also have a great tradition and history....my dad was attached to them for 26 years as a navy corpsman....

So I spent a lot of time around them....the are the best of the best as far as soldiers

It just depends on what you want....

Whatever you choose, I wish you the best....

And my basic advice for all recruits in all of the services stays the same

Never volunteer

Keep your head down

And use the military to either learn a good skill that will transition to the outside world, or use it to further your education as you can

And thank you again for attempting to serve....do it proudly
 
Hey everybody---I'm a guy who lives in Chicago whose going to be turning 17 in a month. I'm planning to go into the Marines after I graduate from high school. I was just wondering if anybody had advice for me so I will have a better chance of getting in shape for boot camp? I'm already lifting weights multiple times a week, but I know there's probably more I need to do.

Thanks!




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Good luck. I think it is a good move for any young person. What you will accomplish in the Marie Corp in a few months could be more than you will do in a lifetime on your own.

The Marines will take care of the physical part. Make sure this is what you want and you are ready mentally. The Marine Corps can be much more challenging mentally than physically. I was in the Army and did my advanced MP training with the Marines. From what I could tell it was the mental discipline of the Marines that was much more challenging.
 
As a former Marine I'm going to give you some solid advice about how to go about this boot camp business...

1. Go ahead and get the Eagle, Globe, and Anchor tattoo. Drill instructors will take immediate notice of your motivation and dedication to the Corps. Nothing says honor, courage, and commitment like permanently etching it into your skin before you even step on those little yellow footprints.

2. Smile a alot. DI's have a great sense of humor and nothing shows esprit de corps than showing them you "get it" when they make a joke.

3. Hold back on the PT. A lot of recruits go all out. DI's hate a show off and take it as a personal challenge.

4. Don't get too caught up on the specifics of drill. If they call you out on it, gently remind them that unless you are going to be on the silent drill team, it's not that important. They don't want to be out there just as much as you.

5. When spoken to, reply in a soft and kind voice. Nobody likes a loud mouth. The only reasons DIs yell is because they need to get attention of 80+ people at once. If they are talking directly too you, less volume is better.

6. Don't bother learning the Commadant's name. In all likely hood he will retire at some point during your enlistment.

7. Take your time eating in the chow hall and try to lighten up the mood by engaging in humorous discussion with fellow recruits. You guys are under a lot of stress all day and chow is a perfect time to unwind and relax. Again, smile alot.

Hope this helps.
 
Should I have somebody timing me or just run? Also, do you guys think I should practice with the exact distance I'm going to have to do or should I go further so when I have to do it for real it will be easier?

Thanks again

Well, let me give you several bits of advice before you raise your hand.

First, why the Marines? What do you want to do? I am not trying to talk you out of this, just make sure you pick the branch for the right reasons is all.

I always encourage everybody to talk to all the recruiters first. See what they have to offer, then take your ASVAB. It does not matter who you take it with, everybody takes the same test. Then once you have your ASVAB, go and talk to the 2 or 3 recruiters that interested you the most. You might even be able to play one off of the other a bit. After all, they mostly are salesmen and in this case you are the product that needs to be sold.

Next, start practicing the ASVAB test. They sell study books, and there are several tests on-line to help you improve your score. This is very important, because the higher your score, the more chances for jobs you will have. Especially in the Corps, where many more enter under "Open Contract" (no set job assignment) then in any other branch. If you have high schores, you are much less likely to become a cook or truck driver.

For conditioning, I always suggest the same thing. Endurance is much more important than speed, so work on that first. Since the Corps uses a 3 mile test, run 4 miles. Do it 3-5 times a week, your goal being to run the entire distance without stopping, no matter what your speed is. Do not worry about having to slow to a walk at first, but each time try to make it at a point farther along, and walking for shorter and shorter distances. Then once you can run it non-stop (should be 2-4 weeks), start working on increasing your speed. Then once you are comfortable running 4 miles non-stop in 30 minutes or less, go back to 3 miles and work on getting that time as low as possible. But at least 1 time a week, continue with the 4 mile run. Once you have the endurance to do 3-4 miles, the speed will quickly follow. And remember, you will get tons of PT once you are in training. The idea is not to be able to do an 14 minute 3 mile before you leave, it is simply to be able to do the runs faster and easier than everybody else.

For pull-ups, just do as many as you can before and after you run. Remember, the minimum there is only 3, so if you can do 10 at the start you will already be ahead of the curve.

And once or twice a week practice walking. Do not worry about weight, but get to where you can walk 5 miles in an hour, non-stop, stretching your legs as far as possible and not breaking into a jog. Marching with a pack ("humping" in the Marines, "Rucking" in the Army) is more about practice than anything else. Learning how to stretch your stride as much as possible to preserve your energy is critical in this. And trust me, your calves will be screaming after 1/2 mile or so, but just walk through it. After a bit you will find that you do not even notice the pain anymore.

In boot camp, the longest hikes are generally 6-10 miles, and at a fairly moderate pace. The 20+ mile hikes in 8 hours or less are not really seen unless you are assigned to an Infantry unit (in an Infantry unit, everybody hikes, no matter what their MOS is).

Ask your recruiter for an Essential Skills booklet, and start to memorize it. If you join the Marines, one of the hardest things is going to be the 11 General Orders, and memorizing all of the Navy and Marine Corps ranks (both officer and enlisted). Once again, do not worry about getting it all down before you go, but any advantage you have before you go will make it easier once you are in training.
 
Well, let me give you several bits of advice before you raise your hand.

First, why the Marines? What do you want to do? I am not trying to talk you out of this, just make sure you pick the branch for the right reasons is all.

I always encourage everybody to talk to all the recruiters first. See what they have to offer, then take your ASVAB. It does not matter who you take it with, everybody takes the same test. Then once you have your ASVAB, go and talk to the 2 or 3 recruiters that interested you the most. You might even be able to play one off of the other a bit. After all, they mostly are salesmen and in this case you are the product that needs to be sold.

Next, start practicing the ASVAB test. They sell study books, and there are several tests on-line to help you improve your score. This is very important, because the higher your score, the more chances for jobs you will have. Especially in the Corps, where many more enter under "Open Contract" (no set job assignment) then in any other branch. If you have high schores, you are much less likely to become a cook or truck driver.

For conditioning, I always suggest the same thing. Endurance is much more important than speed, so work on that first. Since the Corps uses a 3 mile test, run 4 miles. Do it 3-5 times a week, your goal being to run the entire distance without stopping, no matter what your speed is. Do not worry about having to slow to a walk at first, but each time try to make it at a point farther along, and walking for shorter and shorter distances. Then once you can run it non-stop (should be 2-4 weeks), start working on increasing your speed. Then once you are comfortable running 4 miles non-stop in 30 minutes or less, go back to 3 miles and work on getting that time as low as possible. But at least 1 time a week, continue with the 4 mile run. Once you have the endurance to do 3-4 miles, the speed will quickly follow. And remember, you will get tons of PT once you are in training. The idea is not to be able to do an 14 minute 3 mile before you leave, it is simply to be able to do the runs faster and easier than everybody else.

For pull-ups, just do as many as you can before and after you run. Remember, the minimum there is only 3, so if you can do 10 at the start you will already be ahead of the curve.

And once or twice a week practice walking. Do not worry about weight, but get to where you can walk 5 miles in an hour, non-stop, stretching your legs as far as possible and not breaking into a jog. Marching with a pack ("humping" in the Marines, "Rucking" in the Army) is more about practice than anything else. Learning how to stretch your stride as much as possible to preserve your energy is critical in this. And trust me, your calves will be screaming after 1/2 mile or so, but just walk through it. After a bit you will find that you do not even notice the pain anymore.

In boot camp, the longest hikes are generally 6-10 miles, and at a fairly moderate pace. The 20+ mile hikes in 8 hours or less are not really seen unless you are assigned to an Infantry unit (in an Infantry unit, everybody hikes, no matter what their MOS is).

Ask your recruiter for an Essential Skills booklet, and start to memorize it. If you join the Marines, one of the hardest things is going to be the 11 General Orders, and memorizing all of the Navy and Marine Corps ranks (both officer and enlisted). Once again, do not worry about getting it all down before you go, but any advantage you have before you go will make it easier once you are in training.

I want to be a tanker/ tank crewman, but if I end up in infantry I wouldn't mind it.

Thank you for the advice!
 
As a former Marine I'm going to give you some solid advice about how to go about this boot camp business...

Great. :D

Let me give one that can be very important. If any of your family or friends are-were Marines, write them letters. At least 3. Once at the start with your address, another in 2nd Phase with your progress, a finaly one in 3rd Phase, to let them know when you will graduate. They should understand your time is limited, and why you do not write every week.

True story here. About a year and a half after I joined the Corps, one of my best friends did also. And I told him I only expected 3 letters. Well, about a month after his training started I still had not gotten one, so I went to see his dad and got his address. And knowing how important getting mail was, I wrote him on average of once every 1-2 weeks. Always on civilian stationary, 2-3 pages, with my dad's address.

Well, I had written a ton of letters, and never got one back. I finally went to his dad, and got his graduation date. So 2 weeks before he graduated, I got my revenge.

At that time I had duty that was 24 hours on, which left quite a bit of down time. So I wrote. I finally finished my letter, it must have been 15 pages long. I then bought a Playboy magazine and ripped out the centerfold, and folded it around the letter so that the first thing seen upon opening were breasts. I took a pack of gum and put the sticks inside as well. Finally, I got an envelope from my own boot camp stash with the flag raising at Iwo Jima on the side, and for the return address put my full military address, complete with rank.

He told me afterwards that as soon as his name was called and he saw the letter, he was in trouble. DIs have recruits open any letters in front of them if they feel unusually large or thick (looking for contraband). By that time the DI had gotten used to my letters (return address of M. Martin), but this time it was huge, said LCpl Martin, and in USMC stationary. My friend opened it, pulled it out, and the first thing everybody saw were large breasts, as gum fell onto the floor.

Yea, he got smoked. Hard. Part way through he asked if it was from the friend who had written so often, and my friend said yes. "You never wrote him back, did you?" And of course, the answer to that was no. I told him later that if I had gotten at least a single letter, I would never have done that. But he should have known that I knew ways to get him in trouble, even if I was stationed a couple of hundred miles away.
 
I want to be a tanker/ tank crewman, but if I end up in infantry I wouldn't mind it.

Thank you for the advice!

Well, I suggest looking into the Army as well then. After all, if you are looking at Active Duty there are only 2 Tank Battalions in the Corps. Yea, that is it. A single Battalion for each of the Divisions stationed in the US (1st and 2nd Division). 1st Battalion is based at 29 Palms and is part of the 1st Division, 2nd Battalion is based at Lejeune and is part of the 2nd Division. 4th Battalion is in the 4th Division (Reserve), with units scattered around the country (California, Idaho, Washington, North Carolina, Kentucky).

And trust me, there is nothing wrong with Infantry. I was an 0311 for my 10 years in the Corps, and never regretted that choice.
 
Tell you what I told my son- If you're gonna do military, do it as an officer.
After spending the last decade in the military and have though about going officer earlier in my career I can honestly say that it would have been the biggest mistake of my career. The extra money is simply not worth the job.
 
Should I have somebody timing me or just run? Also, do you guys think I should practice with the exact distance I'm going to have to do or should I go further so when I have to do it for real it will be easier?

Thanks again

You don't need anybody to time you just buy a watch. Depending on your fitness level I would concentrate on your 3 mile time as that is the test you will be taking. Also do lots of sprints as they are the single best way to increase your running ability. Spend time doing crunches and pull ups also as that is part of your pt test. Look up what the numbers needed for the PT test and work towards maxing your pt test.
 
I've always wanted to be a marine since I was a little kid---being part of something bigger than me and protecting my country and all. I do want to go to college, but I'm not in a hurry in regards to that and through the military I won't have to pay for it either when I do decide to continue ,my schooling.

It's entirely possible I may make a career out of the military but first I would have to get in-first thing's first and all haha

I'm not sure as to what I'd want to do once I get out of the military

When I was young I wanted to join the Marine Corps to. My brother enlisted in the Marines before I did and looking back on it I am so glad I joined the Army. Don't get me wrong I am not saying their is anything necessarily wrong with the Marines it's just not for me. I currently live on a Marine base and hang out with a fair number of Marines and all it does is reinforce that feeling.

But to be completely fair I could never go back to being in the conventional Army now either.
 
The Marines are the best and have the coolest uniforms! I joined the reserves as advised by my brother who was also in the Marines at the time, but wish I would've joined active and did whatever it took to become an officer. If you're 26 or 28 years old and you find the Marines aren't for you as a career, you go out into the civilian world with 8-10 experience with awesome leadership skills and a degree...that sounds like someone any business owner would want to hire. Also, make sure you sign up for the G.I. Bill in boot camp. You don't (or at least you didn't when I was in) automatically get it, you actually have to sign up for it.

I agree with you completely about the nicest uniforms. The first part of that sentence yeah not so much. Lol
 
You want to average aroud 8 per mile.

8 1/2 should do and is a great.basis to build on.

9 per mile is too close for comfort.

Depends on your goals I guess but where I am 8 minute mile runs is a light recovery run. My personal opinion you want to be much closer to 7 if not below that.
 
Depends on your goals I guess but where I am 8 minute mile runs is a light recovery run. My personal opinion you want to be much closer to 7 if not below that.

7 minute miles are definitely a valid goal.

You sound like a friend I had who ran a lot. He considered the PFT a break in training. :)
 
Hey everybody---I'm a guy who lives in Chicago whose going to be turning 17 in a month. I'm planning to go into the Marines after I graduate from high school. I was just wondering if anybody had advice for me so I will have a better chance of getting in shape for boot camp? I'm already lifting weights multiple times a week, but I know there's probably more I need to do.

Thanks!

Run run and run some more. I went through army basic, and army basic and marine bootcamp are similar in training structure, but the marines do alot more physical training and their training is longer than standard army basic. Former marines I have met have said the marine bootcamp is harder, but they have an easier pt test, because the marine run focuses more on endurance, while the army focuses more on speed.


Advice no matter which branch you join, lifting weights will do nothing for you. You want to focus on your running and leg strength, your cardio, and your core. For pushups and situps crunches and pullups, your core strength makes a massive difference. For arm strength focus on pushups and pullups since that is what you will be doing alot of, and different muscles are used for those than lifting free weights.

Showers will be quick and to the point, you have a crapload of people usually in a 30-45 minuted who need to sh&t shower and shave with extremely few sinks and stalls, if you try and take your time, you might find out what a shower party is, and no it is not really a party, more or less your drill seargeant/ drill instructor yelling and screaming at every who takes more than 60 seconds in the shower. You will also get this if you get that one guy who refuses to shower and stinks up the barracks, and every group gets one.

You will also get severe time restrictions on eating, army got 2 minutes, marines I have talked to vary wildly, but none of them ever got more than 5 minutes in bootcamp before having to dump their trays. You will have alot of locker checks, and they expend perfectly organized lockers, perfectly folded sheets etc. Do not bother with locker organization or bedmaking, you will be taught this first thing, and if you make perfect beds day one, they will focus on you just to find where you screw up.


Also get used to drill and ceremony, the army focuses lightly on drill and ceremony in basic, marines are hardcore on it. Marines are much bigger on showmanship than the other branches, and you will practice every move alot, whereas people could walk out of army basic not knowing how to do a salute with a rifle, or do a counter column.


Oh and if I have not said it enough, run, The marine pt test has a 3 mile run, and even though it focuses more on endurance rather than speed like the army, you still need to run a good pace, and 3 miles is no joke for someone unprepared.
 
And remember.... You will be razzed.

Just talked to an Army vet today.

He brought up an acronym I hadn't heard.

MARINES

"Muscles Are Required, Intelligence Not Essential SIR!"
 
And remember.... You will be razzed.

Just talked to an Army vet today.

He brought up an acronym I hadn't heard.

MARINES

"Muscles Are Required, Intelligence Not Essential SIR!"

As long as people are creative I guess haha
 
He brought up an acronym I hadn't heard.

MARINES

"Muscles Are Required, Intelligence Not Essential SIR!"

Do not forget My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment.

Or if you are against another branch, Never Again Volunteer Yourself.

Trust me, we have heard them all.
 
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