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KarrenHimmelwr

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After 9/11, it was the first priority of US establishment to punish the attackers who belongs to Afghanistan and other regions of the world. However, I have many questions about this Afghanistan war that our soldiers are fighting at Afghan soil. The families of US soldiers are suffering due to the absence of their love ones as my friend who was posted at Air Base of Rapid City of South Dakota, US is performing his duty at Afghanistan. However, I have a simple question that how long we will keep continue this war.

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Taliban's actually starting to make a comeback again as we begin to pull out, so who knows.
 
Forever... Because neither side in Afghanistan are "good"...

We need to take their nukes away and let em fight it out themselves...
 
KarrenHimmelwr said:
However, I have a simple question that how long we will keep continue this war.
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As long as we need to in order to keep the region stable.

How long have we been in Germany, Japan, and South Korea? How long was the Southern US occupied after the Civil War ended?

If we have learned anything from the disaster in Iraq (and what almost happened in Afghanistan), it is that leaving to soon simply lets the slaughter to start all over again.

And trust me, both us and our families knew what we were getting involved in when we joined. There is not an individual in the military today that did not join or reenlist since the war started (I have reenlisted 3 times myself since then). So if they do not want to deploy, then maybe they should just get out.

If we remain for 20 years, then so be it. If we remain for 40 years, so be it. As long as we can try to do all we can to bring about a safe and stable Afghanistan, where women no longer have to fear being stoned to death just because their husband does not want them anymore. Or where girls are slaughtered on school busses because some think they have no right to learn how to read. And to be honest, it is starting to sicken me more and more, how most Americans can no longer think of anything further then 3-4 years in the future. As long as they are fed and watered and clean, most could not care less about tomorrow. Let alone about anybody other then themselves.
 
Orly? said:
Forever... Because neither side in Afghanistan are "good"...

We need to take their nukes away and let em fight it out themselves...
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Neither the Afghanistan Govt or the Taliban have Nukes.
 
Oozlefinch said:
As long as we need to in order to keep the region stable.

How long have we been in Germany, Japan, and South Korea? How long was the Southern US occupied after the Civil War ended?

If we have learned anything from the disaster in Iraq (and what almost happened in Afghanistan), it is that leaving to soon simply lets the slaughter to start all over again.

And trust me, both us and our families knew what we were getting involved in when we joined. There is not an individual in the military today that did not join or reenlist since the war started (I have reenlisted 3 times myself since then). So if they do not want to deploy, then maybe they should just get out.

If we remain for 20 years, then so be it. If we remain for 40 years, so be it. As long as we can try to do all we can to bring about a safe and stable Afghanistan, where women no longer have to fear being stoned to death just because their husband does not want them anymore. Or where girls are slaughtered on school busses because some think they have no right to learn how to read. And to be honest, it is starting to sicken me more and more, how most Americans can no longer think of anything further then 3-4 years in the future. As long as they are fed and watered and clean, most could not care less about tomorrow. Let alone about anybody other then themselves.
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American public won't stand for staying in Afghanistan for five more years, much less twenty. After all, people think it's better to do it all over again from scratch, or so it seems.
 
Tigerace117 said:
American public won't stand for staying in Afghanistan for five more years, much less twenty. After all, people think it's better to do it all over again from scratch, or so it seems.
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Because they are largely selfish and only think of their needs at the immediate moment.

That is the same kind of thinking that caused WWII after all. Just ignore the potential threat, just so we can push it back a few more years. Who cares how much it may cost in the future, we only care about the here and now.

Myself, I would rather put in the blood and sweat now, so that my children and grandchildren (as well as the children and grandchildren in Afghanistan now) do not have to suffer, just because some selfish individuals in the US can make themselves feel better.
 
KarrenHimmelwr said:
After 9/11, it was the first priority of US establishment to punish the attackers who belongs to Afghanistan and other regions of the world. However, I have many questions about this Afghanistan war that our soldiers are fighting at Afghan soil. The families of US soldiers are suffering due to the absence of their love ones as my friend who was posted at Air Base of Rapid City of South Dakota, US is performing his duty at Afghanistan. However, I have a simple question that how long we will keep continue this war.

Constructional Comments will be appreciated!

Thankyou
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Afghanistan is a subset of The Long War, which our grandchildren will still be fighting.
 
Tigerace117 said:
American public won't stand for staying in Afghanistan for five more years, much less twenty. After all, people think it's better to do it all over again from scratch, or so it seems.
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That is a most naïve statement.

The American people do not control the government which determines how long we will stay there. The GWOT is about empire as much as anything else. War is good for business, just as Ike pointed out.

The American people are very easily manipulated into favoring war as a solution to anything.

We will be there until we're ready to leave, and considering all the mineral wealth in Afghanistan, that likely means we will be there for quite some time, generations.
 
Thoreau72 said:
That is a most naïve statement.

The American people do not control the government which determines how long we will stay there. The GWOT is about empire as much as anything else. War is good for business, just as Ike pointed out.

The American people are very easily manipulated into favoring war as a solution to anything.

We will be there until we're ready to leave, and considering all the mineral wealth in Afghanistan, that likely means we will be there for quite some time, generations.
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The American people vote for those who promise, at least, to promote their own interests. That's why they vote for certain leaders. Obama promised to get us out of Iraq come hell or high water, and the American public responded.

The Global War on Terror was started by the 9/11 attacks.

The American people believe strongly in defending the country.

Also it's better that us that we are in Afghanistan than the Taliban
 
It's always good to have combat experienced officers and senior NCO's.

I know, it's not politically correct to say that, but it really is important that we do. And yes, some die, but that is one hazard of being in the military. Our officer corps is superior to our adversaries because "we have it worked out", whereas they have to "war game", we war.

It's a process that keeps us strong.

I hope my flame suit is ready at the cleaners.. ;o
 
chuckiechan said:
It's always good to have combat experienced officers and senior NCO's.

I know, it's not politically correct to say that, but it really is important that we do. And yes, some die, but that is one hazard of being in the military. Our officer corps is superior to our adversaries because "we have it worked out", whereas they have to "war game", we war.

It's a process that keeps us strong.

I hope my flame suit is ready at the cleaners.. ;o
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And as important if not more important, Junior NCOs.

It is the Corporans through Sergeants (and Staff Servents) that actually lead those troops into combat, spreading the experiences they learned as Privates through Specialist - Lance Corporal.

Most in the military have little contact with "Senior NCOs" (E-7 through E-9). But literally every day they interact with their Junior NCOs. That is why in the mid-2000's, the military (especially the Army) was trying to hardd to get those former E-4 through E-6 that had left the military back in, to pass along that experience.

Even though I was in Air Defense when I came back in 2007 after a 14 year break, every unit I was in took advantage of my experience in the Infantry to pass along what I had learned in the 1980's and early 1990's to the newer group that had not even been born yet when I first put on the uniform.
 
Tigerace117 said:
The American people vote for those who promise, at least, to promote their own interests. That's why they vote for certain leaders. Obama promised to get us out of Iraq come hell or high water, and the American public responded.

The Global War on Terror was started by the 9/11 attacks.

The American people believe strongly in defending the country.

Also it's better that us that we are in Afghanistan than the Taliban
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So then, do we agree that voting to "control the government" is very much a charade, in which the voters are willing participants?
 
KarrenHimmelwr said:
After 9/11, it was the first priority of US establishment to punish the attackers who belongs to Afghanistan and other regions of the world. However, I have many questions about this Afghanistan war that our soldiers are fighting at Afghan soil. The families of US soldiers are suffering due to the absence of their love ones as my friend who was posted at Air Base of Rapid City of South Dakota, US is performing his duty at Afghanistan. However, I have a simple question that how long we will keep continue this war.

Constructional Comments will be appreciated!

Thankyou
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Your inability to write in coherent English (basic errors in bold - 9 in just 100 words of text!) makes me question whether you are actually the concerned American citizen you seem to be presenting yourself to be.
 
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We should be there a long time. A dumb war, made dumber by people, like Obama, who thought of it as the good war and sent conventional forces so the Taliban had more targets. If we leave, we will probably be back. Best to remain there, like we have in Germany, Japan, and Korea.
 
KarrenHimmelwr said:
After 9/11, it was the first priority of US establishment to punish the attackers who belongs to Afghanistan and other regions of the world. However, I have many questions about this Afghanistan war that our soldiers are fighting at Afghan soil. The families of US soldiers are suffering due to the absence of their love ones as my friend who was posted at Air Base of Rapid City of South Dakota, US is performing his duty at Afghanistan. However, I have a simple question that how long we will keep continue this war.

Constructional Comments will be appreciated!

Thankyou
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Good question. How come our President never answers? How come congress or the media never investigates?
 
Thoreau72 said:
That is a most naïve statement.

The American people do not control the government which determines how long we will stay there. The GWOT is about empire as much as anything else. War is good for business, just as Ike pointed out.

The American people are very easily manipulated into favoring war as a solution to anything.

We will be there until we're ready to leave, and considering all the mineral wealth in Afghanistan, that likely means we will be there for quite some time, generations.
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Students and the media ended Vietnam.
 
RetiredUSN said:
Students and the media ended Vietnam.
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They certainly did play a role. Kent State was a demonstration of where we were headed, and it seemed the govt backed off. :confused:
 
KarrenHimmelwr said:
After 9/11, it was the first priority of US establishment to punish the attackers who belongs to Afghanistan and other regions of the world. However, I have many questions about this Afghanistan war that our soldiers are fighting at Afghan soil. The families of US soldiers are suffering due to the absence of their love ones as my friend who was posted at Air Base of Rapid City of South Dakota, US is performing his duty at Afghanistan. However, I have a simple question that how long we will keep continue this war.

Constructional Comments will be appreciated!

Thankyou
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Dependent on two things. One is more likely than the other...I'll let you decide which.

1: People in high positions stop making money off of wars.

2: The people get fed up with it and demand that our troops come home.
 
the US will remain in Afghanistan until it becomes a distraction from the next unwinnable Middle Eastern war.

my opinion is that we should bring the troops home now and never subject them to wars that we aren't willing to fully engage in ever again.
 
KarrenHimmelwr said:
After 9/11, it was the first priority of US establishment to punish the attackers who belongs to Afghanistan and other regions of the world. However, I have many questions about this Afghanistan war that our soldiers are fighting at Afghan soil. The families of US soldiers are suffering due to the absence of their love ones as my friend who was posted at Air Base of Rapid City of South Dakota, US is performing his duty at Afghanistan. However, I have a simple question that how long we will keep continue this war.

Constructional Comments will be appreciated!

Thankyou
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Not sure but it is a volunteer army...
 
JANFU said:
Neither the Afghanistan Govt or the Taliban have Nukes.
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That is irrelevant... if we take their nukes then they can't use them.
 
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