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Women do NOT have to get hurt or die in combat.

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I would say sometimes feminism carries it a bit too far. Women have to go through a lot of **** throughout their lives. Like that was not enough, now people want to send them to die in battlefields, instead of feeling sorry towards them. This is happening in 3rd world patriarchal societies also. This has to stop totally. Women should be BANNED TOTALLY from the front line military. What are men supposed to do then ? Lie around and be lazy ? If a really deserving woman wants to serve and protect the country she should be in the intelligence division/C&C or in the police/armed LEA/SWAT teams. At the very least, they should never be deployed in foreign lands. After all, they are gentle flowers which need sympathy and love.
 
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(This should go south really quick... grab a chair for the show.)
 
They are the ones asking for it..
 
Is there a 10' pole emote?
 
"They (women) are Gentle flowers which need sympathy and love."

Excellent closing statement, I suspect it will lead to much informed and intellectually exhilarating debate.
 
The last line of your post suggests that you're trolling.
 
If the individual meets the qualifications the individual should be allowed to do the job.

And frankly, this attitude that the life of someone's daughter should be valued more than the life of my son is beyond offensive.

ETA: though I have a feeling I just fed someone I shouldn't have.
 
Well do women want equality or special treatment?
 
If the individual meets the qualifications the individual should be allowed to do the job.

And frankly, this attitude that the life of someone's daughter should be valued more than the life of my son is beyond offensive.

Why expand the roles to women though? Most won't qualify and of those that do they will be on the bottom. What is the point beyond fairness? Is there actually a point beyond fairness? How does the policy make sense?
 
I would say sometimes feminism carries it a bit too far. Women have to go through a lot of **** throughout their lives. Like that was not enough, now people want to send them to die in battlefields, instead of feeling sorry towards them. This is happening in 3rd world patriarchal societies also. This has to stop totally. Women should be BANNED TOTALLY from the front line military. What are men supposed to do then ? Lie around and be lazy ? If a really deserving woman wants to serve and protect the country she should be in the intelligence division/C&C or in the police/armed LEA/SWAT teams. At the very least, they should never be deployed in foreign lands. After all, they are gentle flowers which need sympathy and love.

Not sure if you're aware, but America's military is voluntary service, and most of the people pushing for women to have combat roles have been women in the military.

Women are not "gentle flowers" for you to patronize, and they do not need your sympathy. They are not too stupid or child-like to make their own decisions about what they want to do in their own careers, and they do not need your hilariously ignorant opinion on such matters. They are whatever they decide to be, and just as intelligent and capable of living their own lives as you are.
 
I would say sometimes feminism carries it a bit too far. Women have to go through a lot of **** throughout their lives. Like that was not enough, now people want to send them to die in battlefields, instead of feeling sorry towards them. This is happening in 3rd world patriarchal societies also. This has to stop totally. Women should be BANNED TOTALLY from the front line military. What are men supposed to do then ? Lie around and be lazy ? If a really deserving woman wants to serve and protect the country she should be in the intelligence division/C&C or in the police/armed LEA/SWAT teams. At the very least, they should never be deployed in foreign lands. After all, they are gentle flowers which need sympathy and love.

Erdogan's wife doesn't seem to think women belong in the front line either. She said she thinks they should be in a harem.
 
If the individual meets the qualifications the individual should be allowed to do the job.

And frankly, this attitude that the life of someone's daughter should be valued more than the life of my son is beyond offensive.

ETA: though I have a feeling I just fed someone I shouldn't have.

Few qualifications required to die.
 
And frankly, this attitude that the life of someone's daughter should be valued more than the life of my son is beyond offensive.

A woman's life IS much more valuable than the life of a man, because they give birth and are directly involved in the population growth, like it or not. Having said that, I am NOT damning your son.
 
A woman's life IS much more valuable than the life of a man, because they give birth and are directly involved in the population growth, like it or not. Having said that, I am NOT damning your son.

Do you believe women reproduce asexually?

And are you going to respond to the insanely insulting insinuation that women are not smart enough to choose their own careers, and that they are too fragile and immature to be in battle?

Or the equally insulting outright statement that men's lives are worth less, based on nothing but your frankly shocking ignorance of biology?
 
Do you believe women reproduce asexually?

And are you going to respond to the insanely insulting insinuation that women are not smart enough to choose their own careers, and that they are too fragile and immature to be in battle?

Or the equally insulting outright statement that men's lives are worth less, based on nothing but your frankly shocking ignorance of biology?

What I really meant was, a man can theoretically father countless children, but a woman can give birth only to limited children, no matter how much sex she has or how many men she has sex with. Population growth depends directly on the fertility rate which is totally dependent on women. Its that simple. There are people with far more extreme views even to the extent of calling males as disposables, specifically for that reason. But, my thoughts are not that extreme. I am sorry if I have offended you.
 
Nothing gets past you, does it Mr. Libertarian "no laws should apply to me" but get back in the kitchen Martha.

She didn't even finish the sandwich before leaving the kitchen. Outrageous!
 
Do you believe women reproduce asexually?

And are you going to respond to the insanely insulting insinuation that women are not smart enough to choose their own careers, and that they are too fragile and immature to be in battle?

Or the equally insulting outright statement that men's lives are worth less, based on nothing but your frankly shocking ignorance of biology?

I'm not sure if you understand the argument. Historically speaking the majority of men didn't reproduce, but at the same time the vast majority of women did. There didn't appear to be any problems due to the very unequal reproductive numbers from what I can tell.
 
I'm not sure if you understand the argument. Historically speaking the majority of men didn't reproduce, but at the same time the vast majority of women did. There didn't appear to be any problems due to the very unequal reproductive numbers from what I can tell.

Doesn't everyone have a right to procreate? Or are only a select few allowed, probably selected by liberal bureaucrats.
 
Doesn't everyone have a right to procreate? Or are only a select few allowed, probably selected by liberal bureaucrats.

That has really nothing to do with the argument. A man could get several women pregnant over the year, while a woman(assuming she doesn't abort or miscarry) can only give birth once a year. This means that in terms of reproduction anyway the importance of each woman is higher than the importance of each individual man. While it might offend feminists and MRA dudes out there history defends my argument nicely. If you had to pick between sending a man or a woman off to die the obvious choice is a man.

It is also without doubt that in times of low birth rates it really doesn't make much sense to be sending women off into combat.
 
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I would say sometimes feminism carries it a bit too far. Women have to go through a lot of **** throughout their lives. Like that was not enough, now people want to send them to die in battlefields, instead of feeling sorry towards them. This is happening in 3rd world patriarchal societies also. This has to stop totally. Women should be BANNED TOTALLY from the front line military. What are men supposed to do then ? Lie around and be lazy ? If a really deserving woman wants to serve and protect the country she should be in the intelligence division/C&C or in the police/armed LEA/SWAT teams. At the very least, they should never be deployed in foreign lands. After all, they are gentle flowers which need sympathy and love.

Talk about a contradiction right off the bat. You say that women should not serve because they might get hurt or die in combat, and yet you're quite willing to let them be in the police, armed LEA (whatever that is, but based on the word "armed" i'm assuming its going to do with guns and protection which leads to the possibility of some form of interactions that's going to need a gun), and SWAT teams....all of which they can get hurt or die in.

Besides which, they are not being forced to go into the battlefields. They volunteered and fought hard to get the equal right to be there.
 
What I really meant was, a man can theoretically father countless children, but a woman can give birth only to limited children, no matter how much sex she has or how many men she has sex with. Population growth depends directly on the fertility rate which is totally dependent on women. Its that simple. There are people with far more extreme views even to the extent of calling males as disposables, specifically for that reason. But, my thoughts are not that extreme. I am sorry if I have offended you.

Again, what difference does that make as to the necessity of each sex? Fact is, one doesn't reproduce without the other.

But furthermore, you are saying, basically, that people have no value outside of their ability to perform as an incubator. So then why don't you simply advocate sending infertile people to die instead? They have no value to you, right? So why don't you just kill them with impunity?

Your worldview is so incredibly sad and demeaning and shallow I don't even know where to begin. Don't try to excuse yourself by pointing out that there are people who are even worse. If that's what you have to resort to in order to defend your opinion, then there is something wrong with your opinion.
 
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I'm not sure if you understand the argument. Historically speaking the majority of men didn't reproduce, but at the same time the vast majority of women did. There didn't appear to be any problems due to the very unequal reproductive numbers from what I can tell.

That is true for some other mammals, particularly for non-social solitary ones. It is not true, and has never been true, for humans.
 
I would say sometimes feminism carries it a bit too far. Women have to go through a lot of **** throughout their lives. Like that was not enough, now people want to send them to die in battlefields, instead of feeling sorry towards them. This is happening in 3rd world patriarchal societies also. This has to stop totally. Women should be BANNED TOTALLY from the front line military. What are men supposed to do then ? Lie around and be lazy ? If a really deserving woman wants to serve and protect the country she should be in the intelligence division/C&C or in the police/armed LEA/SWAT teams. At the very least, they should never be deployed in foreign lands. After all, they are gentle flowers which need sympathy and love.

It was a good act but you blew it with the last sentence...
 
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