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Iran unveils new short range ballistic missile

I didn't say they should. I said that they want them for the same reason we want them: To intimidate enemies mostly, but also to use as a defense if necessary.

Can you think of any reason why the Iranians would distrust the United States, and maybe want some weapons to make an invasion less likely?


Well truthfully, they don't need a reason when it comes to their alleged prophecy. Yes they would want to be like us.

Sure, but I don't think they can say they stand for the same things.
 
What part about a people without a country is a people without Rights, didn't you get? Does one have to massacre a people to destroy a nation?
What is that about!
which people are you referring to?
Is it the same people mentioned in the famous following sentence: "a people without a country for a land without a people!"?
the problem is that this land in question has never been empty throughout all history, but initially populated and SHARED by nomad peoples until one of them, the Jews decided to leave and look for a better fate elsewhere only to return 2000 years later to oust the denizens, heirs of the then nomad people, and claim the land all for themselves!
I believe you do not know the history of the Middle east, this is why you just can't pinpoint the root of the issues under discussion, so, in effect you are reduced to donkey-talking!
 
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What is that about!
which people are you referring to?
Is it the same people mentioned in this famous following sentence: "a people without a country for a land without a people!"?
the problem is that this land in question has never been empty throughout all history, but initially populated and SHARED by nomad peoples until one of them, the Jews decided to leave and look for a better fate elsewhere only to return 2000 years later to oust the denizens, heirs of the then nomad people, and claim the land all for themselves!
I believe you do not know the history of the Middle east, this is why you just can't pinpoint the root of the issues under discussion, so, in effect you are reduced to donkey-talking!



It was your pal Khamenei referring to the Jews. But the fact of the matter it applies to any. Which is what many in the ME can't understand. Their bulbs don't have enough wattage to catch the dim version.

That would include those who think they know All of its history and use talking points created by BO peep and his Team, and those Iranians. Should sound familiar to you, huh?
 
It was your pal Khamenei referring to the Jews. But the fact of the matter it applies to any. Which is what many in the ME can't understand. Their bulbs don't have enough wattage to catch the dim version.

That would include those who think they know All of its history and use talking points created by BO peep and his Team, and those Iranians. Should sound familiar to you, huh?

That's what i am saying: you confuse the Iranian people with their leaders, whereas all the evidence suggest that the Iranians are the most westernized muslims in the world! But on the other hand, every one caught confusing Israel with the moronic confrontational politics of its present right-wing leaders is quickly stamped as an antisemite!
Nobody with a brain seriously consider the annihilation of Israel, all that the world demand, including the Iranians is that Israel sets its borders once and for all!

Do you remember who recently claimed the following:

A country without borders is not a nation
 
That's what i am saying: you confuse the Iranian people with their leaders, whereas all the evidence suggest that the Iranians are the most westernized muslims in the world! But on the other hand, every one caught confusing Israel with the moronic confrontational politics of its present right-wing leaders is quickly stamped as an antisemite!
Nobody with a brain seriously consider the annihilation of Israel, all that the world demand, including the Iranians is that Israel sets its borders once and for all!

Do you remember who recently claimed the following:

Which Iranians.....The Real Persians or those fakeass Shia ones? Do you know any Real Persians. Just one, maybe?

Who said the Iranian Leadership had brains?
 
Holy cow. When did the group of Iranian apologists grow so large? :shock:


When more people became educated to the realities of Iran's minimal threat & repeated, censored appeals for improved relations with the U.S.

Contrary to claims by an anti Islamic US Major Media, Iran presents no threat & has attacked no one in over 300 years. The Iranian & US Navy work closely together in fighting pirates and mutual search & rescue missions. Iran has one of the higher literacy rates in the world & during informal meetings between US & Iranian sailors, they exchange greetings & gifts.

I've been to Iran & entertained Iranian MDs (and other nationalities) in my home; it's/they're nothing like they are misrepresented by Major Western Media.


“Why They Hate the Deal With Iran”
Why They Hate the Deal With Iran

EXCERPT "All of Iran’s military activity has been defensive, and it is not planning to launch an unprovoked attack on Israel or any other country. This reality has been consistently confirmed by Western intelligence and military authorities. A January 2014 U.S. Department of Defense analysis, for example, observed: “Iran’s military doctrine is defensive.

After seven years of misquoting him, even the Israeli Minister of Intelligence conceded that Ahmadinejad had said nothing about Iran attacking or destroying Israel, only that Israel was “on the verge of collapse.”

When Iran has issued military threats, they have always been retaliatory."CONTINUED




“Iran offers help in fighting Gulf of Mexico oil leak”

Iran offers help in fighting Gulf of Mexico oil leak - Israel News, Ynetnews
EXCERPT “Iranian company included in recent round of sanctions against Tehran offers to send experts to help clean up largest environmental disaster in US history, saying that US, Britain can send request for aid from Iran.

"Despite the sanctions, the Revolutionary Guards are prepared for the humanitarian mission to send forces to the Gulf of Mexico," noted Qasemi. "Iranian experience in dealing with oil spills in the Persian Gulf countries, like Kuwait, has proven its abilities." CONTINUED



“Rouhani on CNN : This is what we mean by death to America”
Rouhani on CNN : This is what we mean by death to America



“Over the Horizon: Iranian Rescue Validates U.S. Navy's Cooperative Strategy”
Over the Horizon: Iranian Rescue Validates U.S. Navy's Cooperative Strategy


“Israeli Minister Agrees Ahmadinejad Never Said Israel ‘Must Be Wiped Off the Map’”
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/20...-never-said-israel-must-be-wiped-off-the-map/
 
When more people became educated to the realities of Iran's minimal threat & repeated, censored appeals for improved relations with the U.S.

Oh yes, the US censors all attempts from Iran to improve relations.

Meanwhile, here are some images from the latest Al-Quds Day Celebration. Commonly called "Death To America Day", it has been celebrated every year since 1979.

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And how exactly is this a "misrepresentation"? The US pretty much stopped going "Death to Iran" in January 1981 when they finally released our hostage diplomats. Yet over 35 years later they continue the chants annually.

But we somehow have to "understand"?
 
"We want people to decide for themselves.”
President Hassan Rouhani



Oh yes, the US censors all attempts from Iran to improve relations.

Meanwhile, here are some images from the latest Al-Quds Day Celebration. Commonly called "Death To America Day", it has been celebrated every year since 1979.


And how exactly is this a "misrepresentation"? The US pretty much stopped going "Death to Iran" in January 1981 when they finally released our hostage diplomats. Yet over 35 years later they continue the chants annually.

But we somehow have to "understand"?


Well look what you found in Israeli Media!


If you like pictures, I'll post some pictures of folks burning US flags in the U.S. & elsewhere


All you know about Iran is filtered through our pro Israel / Anti Iranian Media &AIPAC owned US Politicians

When you're interested in the fact that Iranians are protesting AIPAC's run US Mid East Policy, try reading this:


“Rouhani on CNN : This is what we mean by death to America”
Rouhani on CNN : This is what we mean by death to America

EXCERPT “ President Hassan Rouhani ...said: Well, the people, when they say ‘Death to America!’ – do you know what they are really saying?

What they mean to say relates to the aggressive policies of the U.S. and intervention and meddling by the U.S.,” Rouhani says. “We don’t want those to continue. We want people to decide for themselves.”
“All countries in my part of the world, we want democracy to prevail. I told the people, if you want American policies to stop, we need to take action. We need to make the US Understand that its meddling is inappropriate.”CONTINUED


They want the same thing more & more Americans want; to have more of a voice in US Government over the influence of Israeli Lobbies


“US Politicians’ Racist Anti-Iranian Remarks Don’t Make Headlines”
US Politicians? Racist Anti-Iranian Remarks Don?t Make Headlines ? FAIR

EXCERPT “Imagine a US presidential candidate publicly claiming Israelis never tell the truth. Imagine a governor saying African leaders are “animals.” Imagine a secretary of Defense claiming Latinos are “liars.” In each of these cases, the media would rightfully explode, condemning the politicians for their overt racism.

A notable exception to this, however, exists in the US political system and media establishment: When politicians make ludicrous claims about Iranians, when Republicans deploy orientalist myths about purportedly bloodthirsty Persians in order to sabotage their own government’s attempts at diplomacy, the media largely sit on their hands.
 
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Well look what you found in Israeli Media!

Yea, why am I not surprised. When faced with something you do not like, blame the Jews.

That is not a denial I notice. You simply ignore things you do not like and try to spin them in another direction.

Then scream on how the US is racist.

Go away, the Emperor has no clothes, and you are not doing a damn bit of good here.
 
Yea, why am I not surprised. When faced with something you do not like, blame the Jews.

That is not a denial I notice. You simply ignore things you do not like and try to spin them in another direction.

Then scream on how the US is racist.

Go away, the Emperor has no clothes, and you are not doing a damn bit of good here.



Where did I "blame the Jews" or scream how the US is racist for your meaningless Fluff-Pics & by my condemning the ignorance that is pervasive throughout the hysterical & bigoted anti Iranian element?


General ignorance & apathy has cost this country dearly in Fatally Flawed Foreign Wars

The Iraq War is a good example example:

Well over 85% of Americans were easily duped into Iraq War fever

However....

Only about 5% of those same Americans could find Iraq on a map


If more Americans had studied the lead up to that War, thought for themselves & opposed that fraudulent misadventure, countless lives & $Trillions may not have been wasted for the current disastrous results.

I don't care so much that people agree with me but I do want their opposition to be based on experience, a sound knowledge of the issue & informed, independent thought. You don't seem to display possession of any of those qualifications.


You're welcome to continue supporting ignorance, mindless bigotry & Wars for Netanyahu but I'm not going anywhere.
 
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Where did I "blame the Jews" or scream how the US is racist for your meaningless Fluff-Pics & by my condemning the ignorance that is pervasive throughout the hysterical & bigoted anti Iranian element?

You're welcome to continue supporting ignorance, mindless bigotry & Wars for Netanyahu but I'm not going anywhere.

Funny, how you open with a denial, then close with one that contradicts that denial.

Actually, you might be surprised how many could find Iraq. After all, we had been involved in a war with them just over a decade prior, and had been involved in various incidents with them for the last 15 years or so prior to the 2003 invasion.

The same way many of us knew where kuwait was prior to 1990, because we remembered the "Tanker War". So as you scream at "Americans" being "hysterical & bigoted", you try to claim that 95% of Americans are stupid.

Sorry, am about to wish you into the corn field here. Let me know if you ever want to have a serious discussion, and not just throw around crap.

BTW, I wonder how many people could identify Paraguay, Finland, or Romania on a map. I know that before 1982 I could never have located Argentina on a map, so what?

How many can find Lesotho on a map? How many even know what Continent it is on? More importantly, how many care?
 
Funny, how you open with a denial, then close with one that contradicts that denial.(1)

Actually, you might be surprised how many could find Iraq.(2) After all, we had been involved in a war with them just over a decade prior, and had been involved in various incidents with them for the last 15 years or so prior to the 2003 invasion.

The same way many of us knew where kuwait was prior to 1990, because we remembered the "Tanker War". So as you scream(3) at "Americans" being "hysterical & bigoted", you try to claim that 95% of Americans are stupid.

Sorry, am about to wish you into the corn field here. Let me know if you ever want to have a serious discussion, and not just throw around crap.

BTW, I wonder how many people could identify Paraguay, Finland, or Romania on a map.(4) I know that before 1982 I could never have located Argentina on a map, so what?

How many can find Lesotho on a map? How many even know what Continent it is on? More importantly, how many care?
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1. Denial of what? Netanyahu & AIPAC are not "the Jews". Most American Jews support the Nuclear Deal

2. I said LEADING UP TO the Iraq War, about 85% of Americans couldn't find Iraq on a map. Of course Americans learned the location of Iraq AFTER it became omnipresent "News" fodder.

3. How was I "screaming"?

4. I've never heard an advocate for ignorance but you're coming awfully close. Being able to find Paraguay, Finland, or Romania is 2nd Grade Geography. Americans must be better educated than you are willing to accept to be in order to successfully compete with the world.

......

It seems like you either have a problem with reading comprehension, can't understand my Posts or are intentionally distorting what I've been trying to communicate.

However, now that you've admitted: "I know that before 1982 I could never have located Argentina on a map, so what?" ....


....... it seems to be all three. Therefore I'm finished wasting my time.
 
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1. Denial of what? Netanyahu & AIPAC are not "the Jews". Most American Jews support the Nuclear Deal

2. I said LEADING UP TO the Iraq War, about 85% of Americans couldn't find Iraq on a map. Of course Americans learned the location of Iraq AFTER it became omnipresent "News" fodder.

Dare I ask, reference?

No, of course not. Since you are making everything up as you go along asking for proof of what you say is just silly.
 
Dare I ask, reference?

No, of course not. Since you are making everything up as you go along asking for proof of what you say is just silly.



Why should I bother?

You didn't read all of the previous supporting documentation I provided

So....

Why should I provide more material for you to ignore?
 
Dare I ask, reference?

No, of course not. Since you are making everything up as you go along asking for proof of what you say is just silly.


I changed my mind. It took me 15 minutes to find the following:

I was being generous on you Fox News viewers as 92% of you STILL can't find Iraq on a map


“Shocking Things Fox News Viewers Believe”
Shocking Things Fox News Viewers Believe

EXCERPT "For years the left-wing has been saying that Fox News viewers are “uneducated” or “misinformed”, but now a study has come out that might confirm those suspicions:
.
92% Couldn’t find Iraq on a map.”CONTINUED


AND


“85% of young adult Americans don't know where Iraq is”
85% of young adult Americans don't know where Iraq is || kuro5hin.org

Survey Reveals Geographic Illiteracy

EXCERPT “A survey commissioned and published by National Geographic shows that a large majority of young Americans between the age of 18-24 are geographically illiterate.
Less than 15% of the subjects could locate Iraq or Israel on a map. Only 17% could locate Afghanistan, even though the survey was carried out after the war. 11% could not locate the U.S. on a map”CONTINUED
 
I changed my mind. It took me 15 minutes to find the following:

I was being generous on you Fox News viewers as 92% of you STILL can't find Iraq on a map


“Shocking Things Fox News Viewers Believe”
Shocking Things Fox News Viewers Believe

EXCERPT "For years the left-wing has been saying that Fox News viewers are “uneducated” or “misinformed”, but now a study has come out that might confirm those suspicions:
.
92% Couldn’t find Iraq on a map.”CONTINUED

This is a comedy-satire website, and notice the lack of reference.

Heck, it even says it clear as daylight on the bottom of the page, in red letters!

Satire disclaimer

Need I say "fail"?

AND

“85% of young adult Americans don't know where Iraq is”
85% of young adult Americans don't know where Iraq is || kuro5hin.org

Survey Reveals Geographic Illiteracy

EXCERPT “A survey commissioned and published by National Geographic shows that a large majority of young Americans between the age of 18-24 are geographically illiterate.
Less than 15% of the subjects could locate Iraq or Israel on a map. Only 17% could locate Afghanistan, even though the survey was carried out after the war. 11% could not locate the U.S. on a map”CONTINUED

Notice "young adult", not "people". A very specific group, a minority in the country who were children at best during the 1990-1991 Gulf War. Got a reference for "Americans" like you claimed, and not "young Americans"?

From your reference:

More young U.S. citizens in the study knew that the island featured in last season's TV show "Survivor" is in the South Pacific than could find Israel.

Once again, this is about the demographic polled more then the US as a whole. I remember a similar poll in the 1980's where more young people could name the singers of the current Top 40 songs then the Vice President of the United States.

So once again, going to back up your claims, or just strut around insisting you won, when actually you failed?
 
This is a comedy-satire website, and notice the lack of reference.

Heck, it even says it clear as daylight on the bottom of the page, in red letters!



Need I say "fail"?

AND



Notice "young adult", not "people". A very specific group, a minority in the country who were children at best during the 1990-1991 Gulf War. Got a reference for "Americans" like you claimed, and not "young Americans"?

From your reference:



Once again, this is about the demographic polled more then the US as a whole. I remember a similar poll in the 1980's where more young people could name the singers of the current Top 40 songs then the Vice President of the United States.

So once again, going to back up your claims, or just strut around insisting you won, when actually you failed?



I failed according to someone who couldn't find Argentina and remains baffled about "Paraguay, Finland, or Romania"?

I'll take that as a compliment.
 
I failed according to someone who couldn't find Argentina and remains baffled about "Paraguay, Finland, or Romania"?

I'll take that as a compliment.

Uhhh, I said I could not find it when I was 16 years old. Sorry, but that was over 3 decades ago, so kindly STFU. And sorry, I could find all od those other countries also, but how many people in the world need to have that ability? So I am absolutely done with your childish behavior, and am wishing you into the cornfield.

Let me know if you ever want to have a serious and adult conversation, that does not involve you throwing around slanders, insults, and actually sourcing a single damned thing you say from a reputable source.
 
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