TALOS/US Army RDECOM.....

Meet the Future Soldier of the US Army This will be incorporated with the Exo Skeleton. Giving it's outer casing and providing the Bulletproof armor.....Huah!


Meet TALOS, the U.S. Military’s Soon-To-Be Real Life ‘Iron Man’



During a meeting last month at Special Operations Command (SOCOM) headquarters in Tampa, Florida, McRaven talked with defense industry representatives about his ideas for what's being called the Tactical Assault Light Operator Suit, or TALOS, a system of highly advanced body armor that can do everything from warding off explosions to sealing up wounds and allowing soldiers to see in the dark. Check out the combat simulation below and see if it doesn't remind you of a certain billionaire playboy's work outfit.



"[The] requirement is a comprehensive family of systems in a combat armor suit where we bring together an exoskeleton with innovative armor, displays for power monitoring, health monitoring, and integrating a weapon into that – a whole bunch of stuff," said Lt. Col. Karl Borjes, a science adviser with SOCOM.

The heart of TALOS would be a type of fluid body armor designed by researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. The material can change from liquid to solid in a millisecond when exposed to the proper electrical current, and can provide lightweight but effective protection against ballistic weapons.

As if that's not enough, the proposed TALOS would also be climate controlled to protect against extreme heat and cold. TALOS would also incorporate night vision technology, include an oxygen supply, have advanced communication system that would send out an alert if the soldier is wounded in the field, and even spray special foam into wounds that would stop bleeding before a medical team arrives.

The HULC exoskeleton already inspired the special automated body armor worn by Matt Damon in the movie "Elysium," and Lockheed Martin have said they have a prototype they hope to field test using soldiers in Afghanistan.....snip~

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Here is some More on TALOS.

Is this for real? What a waste of money. I like this paragraph from the article:

TALOS isn't the first effort at creating this variety of new technology for our troops. Lockheed Martin have been working on the Human Universal Load Carrier (HULC), an exoskeleton-style system that allows the user to carry unusually heavy loads without fatigue, using titanium alloys along with a series of motors and microprocessors to provide lightweight strength and allow users to lift and balance extreme loads. Jim Ni, a project manager for the HULC project, says of the system, "If you want to think about them as wearable robots, that's pretty accurate."

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Ya its called a forklift, we've had them for decades.

Wiseone said:

Is this for real? What a waste of money. I like this paragraph from the article:



Ya its called a forklift, we've had them for decades.

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Yeah its for real.....look up US Army RDECOM. Also it is called that due to it being a Tactical Light Suit. So I don't see a forklift being light and able to traverse any terrain. As well as be Bulletproof.

MMC said:

So I don't see a forklift being light and able to traverse any terrain. As well as be Bulletproof.

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But if it could it would be a kick ass forklift. We could get Bob Blaylock one of those.

Jredbaron96 said:

But if it could it would be a kick ass forklift. We could get Bob Blaylock one of those.

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Well Lockheed themselves said they were looking to encase the Exo.....it definitely will help Light Infantry Forces.

MMC said:

Yeah its for real.....look up US Army RDECOM. Also it is called that due to it being a Tactical Light Suit. So I don't see a forklift being light and able to traverse any terrain. As well as be Bulletproof.

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I think its stupid because no Soldiers on the battlefield is going to want to be caged into a ridiculous fighting suit that will do nothing but limit their mobility and reaction speed. And if they aren't in combat a forklift will do just as well for Soldiers working in a warehouse.

Wiseone said:

I think its stupid because no Soldiers on the battlefield is going to want to be caged into a ridiculous fighting suit that will do nothing but limit their mobility and reaction speed. And if they aren't in combat a forklift will do just as well for Soldiers working in a warehouse.

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Well according to Lockheed and the US Army.....it doesn't reduce any mobility and it will even help them run faster and longer. Lift heavy loads.

MMC said:

Well Lockheed themselves said they were looking to encase the Exo.....it definitely will help Light Infantry Forces.

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53 pounds without batteries? Jesus Christ, that basically means if you're on mission you're going to be wearing that thing the entire ****ing time or you'll be leaving half your gear behind because if it breaks there's no way you can carry it plus the other 200 pounds of gear you brought out there which is now impossible to gear since your frame broke.

Wiseone said:

53 pounds without batteries? Jesus Christ, that basically means if you're on mission you're going to be wearing that thing the entire ****ing time or you'll be leaving half your gear behind because if it breaks there's no way you can carry it plus the other 200 pounds of gear you brought out there which is now impossible to gear since your frame broke.

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30 seconds in and out and packed to go. Now there is a key issue you mentioned. The batteries. Especially if they are going to encase and use an environmental system inside the Suit.

MMC said:

30 seconds in and out and packed to go. Now there is a key issue you mentioned. The batteries. Especially if they are going to encase and use an environmental system inside the Suit.

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Ya 30 seconds to pack it up and turn it into a 53 pound+ piece of luggage, and don't forget after you pack it up you have no way of carrying your 200 pounds of gear since you needed that system to pick up that much. And its not like back on the FOB going out you don't have plenty of time for mission planning and prep, so 30 seconds to equip isn't a big selling point.

Anyway, I don't believe manufacture claims and youtube videos they want to sell a product

Wiseone said:

Ya 30 seconds to pack it up and turn it into a 53 pound+ piece of luggage, and don't forget after you pack it up you have no way of carrying your 200 pounds of gear since you needed that system to pick up that much. And its not like back on the FOB going out you don't have plenty of time for mission planning and prep, so 30 seconds to equip isn't a big selling point.

Anyway, I don't believe manufacture claims and youtube videos they want to sell a product

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Yeah, I figured you would say something like that. What did you think the US army was lying or something? :roll:

The US Army has awarded a contract to Lockheed Martin to test and evaluate a powered exoskeleton suit that will allow warfighters to carry huge loads of weaponry, equipment and armour with ease.

The human universal load carrier (HULC) is a soldier-wearable exoskeleton suit that uses lithium-ion batteries to power its hydraulically driven titanium legs.

The advanced ruggedised HULC system includes optimised control software, extended battery life and allows quick and easy sizing to each user.

The HULC removes the weight from the operator and transfers it to the ground through the robotic legs of the lower-body exoskeleton.

The system also features a shoulder attachment with powered belts and matches its movements to those of the wearer while lifting heavy objects.

It reduces load carriage injuries by performing deep squats, crawls and upper-body lifting with minimal human exertion.

The robotic suit enables the soldier to carry 300lb of backpack and body armour, and still be able to walk, run, kneel and stand with ease.....snip~

US Army to Test Soldier-Wearable Exoskeleton Suit - Army Technology

US Army to Test Soldier-Wearable Exoskeleton Suit - Army Technology

I don't see the point of this thing. Looks like a good way to waste billions on yet another program that will fail to bear fruit. Instead of tossing money down the drain on hollywood bull****, get our guys better weapons, better uniforms, and better equipment. In the case of us mechanics, better ****ing tools.

This type of suit would be usefull for Spec Ops.

Imagine a well guarded faciltiy, one that lacks heavy weaponry like tanks or artillery that has a target of high value. A unit of soldiers with this type of suit airlifted into this facility, assuming the body armour was resistant to all light weaponry upto say 25 mm rounds, that unit would be able to go through that facility with very limited risk. Add in the environmental controlls, you could alsogas the facility further reducing the risk to the soldiers.

Combine all of that with a HUD display in the helmet tied to a tactical computer showing the map of the location, the location of the squad, and potential/know enemy locations. This squad in such a situation would be nearly unstoppable.

It of course would be idiotic to equip anything more then a small number of soldiers in such suits, given the expense and resources required to field them in the future.

Lord Tammerlain said:

This type of suit would be usefull for Spec Ops.

Imagine a well guarded faciltiy, one that lacks heavy weaponry like tanks or artillery that has a target of high value. A unit of soldiers with this type of suit airlifted into this facility, assuming the body armour was resistant to all light weaponry upto say 25 mm rounds, that unit would be able to go through that facility with very limited risk. Add in the environmental controlls, you could alsogas the facility further reducing the risk to the soldiers.

Combine all of that with a HUD display in the helmet tied to a tactical computer showing the map of the location, the location of the squad, and potential/know enemy locations. This squad in such a situation would be nearly unstoppable.

It of course would be idiotic to equip anything more then a small number of soldiers in such suits, given the expense and resources required to field them in the future.

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Heya LT. :2wave: They know they can do it. Plus even have a suit to take the shock of Explosives as well as heavier rounds. Course it's the cost.

This guy is the creator of the TROJAN and has intro'd it to the US Military and Law Enforcement.



Wanting to be protected against BEAR attacks, Troy Hurtubise has made what the army looks for: a suit that stops bullets (from 12 gauge to ELEPHANT GUN), shrapnel and is light weight.....snip~

nazia said:

You sure,Is this for real?USA army used this development. What a waste of money

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Yep.....it's for real and I would disagree it is a waste of money. Once worked out.....it will be a better armor for Elite Forces.

MMC said:

Yep.....it's for real and I would disagree it is a waste of money. Once worked out.....it will be a better armor for Elite Forces.

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Special Forces require mobility and stealth. This provides neither, and is completely useless as a practical piece of equipment. All this thing does is provide recruiters with another gimmick to pull in more stupid kids who are fresh out of high school.

Surtr said:

Special Forces require mobility and stealth. This provides neither, and is completely useless as a practical piece of equipment. All this thing does is provide recruiters with another gimmick to pull in more stupid kids who are fresh out of high school.

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Mornin Surtr. :2wave: Look up the exoskeleton.....says it even reduces fatigue. There is no restriction of movement. Once they encase the exo. It will be good to go at least for small arms fire.

MMC said:

30 seconds in and out and packed to go. Now there is a key issue you mentioned. The batteries. Especially if they are going to encase and use an environmental system inside the Suit.

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Power supply is the limiting factor in the end.

In the Iron Man movies, Stark threw together a tiny and really powerful power generator - but we don't have that in the real world.

Surtr said:

I don't see the point of this thing. Looks like a good way to waste billions on yet another program that will fail to bear fruit. Instead of tossing money down the drain on hollywood bull****, get our guys better weapons, better uniforms, and better equipment. In the case of us mechanics, better ****ing tools.

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Actually, I do not think it is a waste at all.

Remember, a lot of this kind of research is not really "military research", even though that is who pays for it. It is often broad reaching, and can have a great many civilian applications.

In fact, here are just a few that come off of the top of my head.

First, Search and Rescue. This may be to big and bulky for battlefield use for 50+ years, but I can see this being awesome for S&R. Extracting people from crashes, moving debris in a collapsed building, the applications here are endless. Forget 3-4 guys having to fight with shears and Jaws of Life, one guy with one of these suits able to extract survivors in minutes.

Then the next obvious use, amputees, and possible even those who are paralyzed. This kind of research is nothing short of "Bionics", the kind that people have been dreaming of since the late 1960's. Convert the hardware to running a hand, and you now have a workable full replacement limb.

One of the biggest problem people have when looking at military R&D is that they forget that a lot of the things they use in daily life started as just such a program. From GPS and cell phones, to the Internet, plastic surgery and modern trauma medicine. I can go on for days on the number of such things people use that started as a military research program (microwave ovens, RFID, night vision devices, FLIR) and are now available to anybody who wants it.

Oh, and digital photography? Yep, military again.

The Mark said:

Power supply is the limiting factor in the end.

In the Iron Man movies, Stark threw together a tiny and really powerful power generator - but we don't have that in the real world.

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Not yet. We will though. Then Katti bar the door.