• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

New Army Service Uniform Starting in 2014.....

MMC

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 26, 2012
Messages
56,981
Reaction score
27,029
Location
Chicago Illinois
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Private
Some Older news that was released by the Army but will be taking place this next year. Not only will there be this change for the Army. But with Camo Uniforms for all military service. As well as the New uniform for women.

The New Army Service Uniform (ASU).....

The Army announced guidance and transition strategy to the new blue Army Service Uniform (ASU). The
announcement defined the wear policies for the ASU during the transition period.
The Policy changes reflect the input of hundreds of thousands of soldiers from across the service.

The army currently has three service uniforms; green, blue, and white. Enlisted soldiers receive the green service
uniform as part of their basic clothing bag issue when they enter the army during initial entry training. The army further
provides active duty enlisted soldiers an annual clothing allowance to maintain proper fit and appearance of their basic
clothing bag issue items. The army will phase out the green and white service uniforms and retain the blue service
uniform. Soldiers who currently have a blue service uniform can immediately begin wearing it as their ASU.

510px-US-NEW-CLASS-A-UNIFORM.png


The new army ASU will include a new coat and low waist trousers for male soldiers; and a new coat, slacks and skirt
for female soldiers. The new fabric for the ASU is heavier and wrinkle resistant over previously manufactured uniforms
and will consist of 55% wool and 45% polyester material. The new ASU coat will have a tailored, athletic cut, to
improve uniform fit and appearance.

The ASU will include a new improved heavier and wrinkle resistant short and long-sleeved white shirt with permanent
military creases and shoulder loops. The leader's identification insignia (green tab) is not authorized to be worn on the
ASU.

The army will place the new ASU items in the soldier's clothing bag for initial entry soldiers in 4th quarter, FY 2010.
The mandatory possession date for the new ASU items is 4th quarter, FY 2014. The leader's identification insignia
(green tab) is not authorized to be worn on the ASU. The specifics of the new uniform will be published in the new AR
670-1 which is due out sometime in 2011.

Beginning in 4th quarter FY 2009, soldiers have the option to take their official DA photo in the ASU. This is strictly
optional on the Soldiers part. Soldiers can still continue to take their DA photo in the army green service uniform until
the mandatory possession date of 4th quarter FY 2014.....snip~

new_military_uniform.jpg


New Combat Uniform.

The new blue Army Service Uniform ASU, AR 670-1, new army dress blues

Whatcha thinks? Any leadership role, gets to wear a Gold Stripe even if it is a CPL. According to many they got opinions from Troopers all over the branch. Saying they like it. Also saves them some money this way. How do any Ole Timer Vets feel about this?

Also they will be changes up to the Camos. The Only Ones that will be allowed to have Different type of Camos will be those for Special Forces and Special Ops. Rangers, Delta, Marine Recon, and Navy Seals. All else will have to be the same.
 
We should go back to what we wore in WW2, like General Ike here.

Allied_Commanders_after_Germany_Surrendered.jpg


The Marines got it right with their uniform, if it ain't broke don't fix it. And the Army should realize that the more often you change the uniform the less you can talk about tradition.
 
I'm expecting to see the uniform offered in a choice of colors and accessories soon.
 
We should go back to what we wore in WW2, like General Ike here.

Allied_Commanders_after_Germany_Surrendered.jpg


The Marines got it right with their uniform, if it ain't broke don't fix it. And the Army should realize that the more often you change the uniform the less you can talk about tradition.

Heya Wisone :2wave: .....and Ike even Designed that Uniform himself. ;) Here is some more on the Blues.

Changes to the ASU include a combat service identification badge to recognize combat service, overseas service bars on the jacket sleeve for both enlisted and officers, distinctive unit insignia on the shoulder loops of the blue coat for enlisted, black jump boots for paratroopers, and the decision to transition to a new short-sleeve and long-sleeve white shirt with shoulder loops.

“The uniform looks a lot more professional to me now,” said Command Sgt. Maj. Brian Lindsey, 434th Field Artillery Brigade. “At graduation you can really tell the difference.”

The blue material was a decision rooted in the Army’s history, dating back to 1779 when Gen. George Washington prescribed blue coats with different facings for the various state troops, artillery, artillery artificers and light dragoons of the Continental Army. In the 1800s, the Adjutant and Inspector General’s Office established dark blue as the national color for officers or enlisted men, if no other color was prescribed.

Besides carrying on tradition, the uniform also streamlines Soldiers’ closets and reduces the burden placed on their wallets, because the ASU can be worn for different affairs.

“I really like what they did, as far as the idea of coming out with one uniform you can wear to a formal, (Department of the Army) photos, Class A inspections or whatever the case may be,” Lindsey said.

The ASU will replace the former Class A uniform and dress blues, just as the Army Combat Uniform replaced both the summer- and winter-weight battle dress and desert camouflage uniforms of years past.

Changes to the uniform include authorization of a combat service identification badge to recognize combat service, overseas service bars on the jacket sleeve for both enlisted and officers, distinctive unit insignia on the shoulder loops of the blue coat for enlisted, authorizing paratroopers to wear the black jump boots with the blue ASU, and the decision to transition to a new short-sleeve and long-sleeve white shirt with shoulder loops.

It is also permissible for enlisted Soldiers to wear both overseas service bars and service stripes on the new blue ASU coat. Officers and Soldiers in the grade of corporal and above, will wear a gold braid on their slacks to indicate leadership roles.....snip~

New ASUs to replace several uniforms indefinitely by 2014 : Hawaii Army Weekly
 
I'm expecting to see the uniform offered in a choice of colors and accessories soon.

Heya VM.
yo2.gif
Myself, I have always like the way the Marine Patrol Cap was Designed for B and C wear. I never did like the Army's Baseball Cap. Only time I ever wore one was in Basic and AIT. :lol:
 
Heya VM.
yo2.gif
Myself, I have always like the way the Marine Patrol Cap was Designed for B and C wear. I never did like the Army's Baseball Cap. Only time I ever wore one was in Basic and AIT. :lol:

Other than keeping he uniform board and vendors happy I never did see a value in changing the AF uniforms. Our service dress uniforms looked like commercial pilot uniforms and I'm pretty sure that's the look they were going for.

First time we went into SA we deployed in the Woodlawn green BDUs. Got there and we were issued the chelate chip DCUs. Except of course helmets, flak jackets and chem gear were all still fatigue green.
 
I think most soldiers have already made the switch. I know I haven't owned any greens in a while. I personally get annoyed with the constant changing of the uniform.

Marines definitely have the sharpest uniform, though.
 
Other than keeping he uniform board and vendors happy I never did see a value in changing the AF uniforms. Our service dress uniforms looked like commercial pilot uniforms and I'm pretty sure that's the look they were going for.

First time we went into SA we deployed in the Woodlawn green BDUs. Got there and we were issued the chelate chip DCUs. Except of course helmets, flak jackets and chem gear were all still fatigue green.

5 days ago the House voted on the Camos over All Branch Services......Incoming!
grenade_toss-animated.gif
m1helmet.gif


House panel votes in favor of common combat uniform across services.....

bilde


Two war veterans succeeded Wednesday in convincing the House Armed Services Committee that the services should agree on common camouflage patterns for uniforms rather than each having its own.

Rep. Bill Enyart, D-Ill., a retired major general and Vietnam veteran who has served in the Air Force, Air Force Reserve and Army National Guard before retiring in 2012 to run for Congress, and Rep. Tammy Duckworth, D-Ill., an Iraq war veteran who still serves in the Illinois National Guard, combined efforts on an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act requiring — with a few exceptions — the services to have a joint combat uniform.

The measure passed by a 32-30 vote.

Ten camouflage uniforms are in use today and more are being developed; lawmakers think that is more than enough.

For several years, the Government Accountability Office has questioned the inability of the services to share camouflage designs to save money.

“The primary goal of camouflage is to reduce vulnerability of forces to detection in combat; however, over time the services also have chosen camouflage patterns that are service specific and distinguish one service from another,” the nonpartisan GAO said in a September report to Congress.

The only disparaging word on the amendment came from Rep. Mike Coffman, R-Colo., who has served in the Army and Marine Corps. He said the potential savings would be small and perhaps not worth the complaints and potential harm to morale.

The amendment, approved as part of HR 1960, the 2014 National Defense Authorization Act, would prohibit the services from adopting any new combat uniform unless it will be a joint uniform item shared by all of the services or unless the design is already in use by another service.

Exempted would be items such as headwear and footwear. The provision also would not apply to combat and camouflage uniforms for use by special operations forces.

There also is a waiver for “exceptional operating circumstances,” to be determined by the defense secretary.

The prohibition would not take full effect until 2018. Within 180 days of the bill becoming law, the services would be required to issue new guidance requiring joint criteria for design, development and fielding of camouflage uniforms. By Oct. 1, 2018, the services could be required to use a joint combat camouflage uniform.....snip~

House panel votes in favor of common combat uniform across services | Army Times | armytimes.com

I was trying to understand the Navy giving out those Camos to Women or Men in the Navy. When they never leave a Ship. Seals and Pilots are understandable.
 
Last edited:
Still it's much they are much nicer than the new Airforce Uniforms :)

Water-Slide-in-Grown-Ups-Movie.jpg
 
Green Class As were the best. The new uniform looks dumb with jump boots.
 
thinking.gif
Okay.....ya lost me on the Adam Sandler Bit.
dontknow.gif
 
Still it's much they are much nicer than the new Airforce Uniforms :)

Water-Slide-in-Grown-Ups-Movie.jpg

Your picture is captioned the new Army uniform 2014. But the AF uniforms never have made much sense.

I usually open presentations to Army personnel with a bio that includes my deployment and career history. I state "I spent 20 years in the Air Force. That's kinda like being in the military and it's really cool. We had uniforms and everything!" Usually loosens things up.
 
thinking.gif
Okay.....ya lost me on the Adam Sandler Bit.
dontknow.gif

I think the implication is the AF is a bit more...'fun'. And hey...he'd be right!
 
I think most soldiers have already made the switch. I know I haven't owned any greens in a while. I personally get annoyed with the constant changing of the uniform.

Marines definitely have the sharpest uniform, though.

iagree.gif
No Doubt about it.....and wait until you see the New Super Female Marine Uniform. ;)

bodypaint002.jpg


Impervious Skin! :2razz: :lol:
 
Here is some word on the Army's New Uniform for women. There was like 600 of them out testing them from the beginning of 2011.



Female Soldiers may be wearing a more form-fitting version of the Army Combat Uniform, That's according to a press release from the Army News Service released Aug. 25, 2010. The New Female only uniform features more room in the hips and legs and may be implemented by 2014. PEO Soldier, which develops and tests new equipment for the Army, has been interested in creating a version of the ACU more suited to a woman's body since 2005. After listening to focus groups of female Soldiers in 2008, PEO Soldier learned some features of the ACU bother women such as over-sized shoulder seams, baggy overall shape, and its non curve-friendly fit. Changes being evaluated in PEO's re-designed uniform include 13 sizes in both the jacket and trousers, an elastic waistband, a more spacious hip area, a shortened crotch length, a more tailored jacket, and re-positioned rank and name tapes. About 500 women were measured to determine needed adjustments, and 600 female Soldiers are slotted to receive the uniform for a user evaluation starting in January 2011. Once the uniform has been evaluated, it will need to be approved by the Army Uniform Board before being issued to troops. Developers predict the uniform will be huge a success and will improve overall functionality.....snip~

womensacu11_23lg.jpg


th
 
Last edited:
I prefer traditional greens... for no reason other than when someone says Army, I think green. :shrug:
 
One camo pattern for all branches of the military. Sounds like there's a McNamara in the Pentagon or the Democrats are at it again.

So the Army is still going to continue to let soldiers to wear the ACU while off base. Seeing a soldier wearing ACU in town or in an airport looks so third world.

The Army going back to the Marines utility cover ?

Nobody has ever came up with why are sailors wearing cammies aboard ship. Who are they trying to hide from ?
 
This is one thing I could never stand about the Army. It seems like every few years they are changing uniforms, making us buy a new set of something just because they want a "new look".

If I was still in the Marines, I could wear all of my dress uniforms I was issued in 1983, because they would all still be authorized. And the same with my Uncle, who joined in 1968.

In fact, in over 100 years there has been almost no change in the Marine Dress Blues at all.

post-376-1274282625.jpg


index.php
 
One camo pattern for all branches of the military. Sounds like there's a McNamara in the Pentagon or the Democrats are at it again.

So the Army is still going to continue to let soldiers to wear the ACU while off base. Seeing a soldier wearing ACU in town or in an airport looks so third world.

The Army going back to the Marines utility cover ?

Nobody has ever came up with why are sailors wearing cammies aboard ship. Who are they trying to hide from ?

It's so if you fall off the boat you're that much harder to find in the water.

NWU1.jpeg


Navy Praises Blue Digital Uniforms After Two Sailors Lost At Sea
 
This is one thing I could never stand about the Army. It seems like every few years they are changing uniforms, making us buy a new set of something just because they want a "new look".

If I was still in the Marines, I could wear all of my dress uniforms I was issued in 1983, because they would all still be authorized. And the same with my Uncle, who joined in 1968.

In fact, in over 100 years there has been almost no change in the Marine Dress Blues at all.

post-376-1274282625.jpg


index.php

Those Marine barracks covers in the pohoto is where the term "Jar Head" came from.
 
What's wrong with the traditional US Navy uniform, as worn by Jack Nicholson, in one of my all time favourite films - 'The Last Detail' :)

tumblr_m9rrx0hjzd1ra7j74o1_500.jpg

Its about the combination of the post 9/11 massive influx of cash to the military services and the end of the rule requiring services to all wear the same ultility uniform. Some Admiral had to make his mark on the Navy, costs and practicality be damned.

Some problem with the Army, the Marine Corps got this hot **** new badass uniform and the Army couldn't just let the Marines be so cool looking so along came the ACU and the wear of the beret in uniform. Stupid planning, stupid decision making, and a total disregard for cost and the people who actually wear these uniforms led to this mess. Only the Marine Corps used the chance to make a new uniform to actually benefit their members, everyone else should be embarrassed.

Some people I work with/for tell me I have an attitude problem and that I need more organization pride, well I'll tell you that attitude only goes so far. I could go stand outside and flap my arms but no amount of positive attitude is going to lift my ass off the ground, and no amount of positive attitude is going to change the the fact that the Army ACU is a horrible cammo pattern and a horribly constructed uniform as far as durability goes. It would make a great potatoe sack but not a uniform.

You know what I'm hooah about? The new mutlicam pattern, that's a good uniform and a true improvement on the old BDE as far as pattern, material used, durability, feasibility.
 
Its about the combination of the post 9/11 massive influx of cash to the military services and the end of the rule requiring services to all wear the same ultility uniform. Some Admiral had to make his mark on the Navy, costs and practicality be damned.

Some problem with the Army, the Marine Corps got this hot **** new badass uniform and the Army couldn't just let the Marines be so cool looking so along came the ACU and the wear of the beret in uniform. Stupid planning, stupid decision making, and a total disregard for cost and the people who actually wear these uniforms led to this mess. Only the Marine Corps used the chance to make a new uniform to actually benefit their members, everyone else should be embarrassed.

Some people I work with/for tell me I have an attitude problem and that I need more organization pride, well I'll tell you that attitude only goes so far. I could go stand outside and flap my arms but no amount of positive attitude is going to lift my ass off the ground, and no amount of positive attitude is going to change the the fact that the Army ACU is a horrible cammo pattern and a horribly constructed uniform as far as durability goes. It would make a great potatoe sack but not a uniform.

You know what I'm hooah about? The new mutlicam pattern, that's a good uniform and a true improvement on the old BDE as far as pattern, material used, durability, feasibility.

I sympathise, indeed the Royal Navy recently changed it's Number 4 Uniform to include zip up boots and velcro fastenings, still on the bright side at least it's not some vile cammo pattern. :lol:


Royal Navy Puts New Uniform To The Test | Royal Navy

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-an...nts/naval publications/br 3/br3book/an39a.pdf

Royal Navy uniform - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





I think the baseball cap idea may have been abandoned by the Navy in it's trials. :)

4a16c36e6bc14ba6a29641627ffb6add-576x0.jpg


1f99be9fc4b54a20b6f1aaf95ba3ce0b-576x0.jpg
 
Last edited:
Back
Top Bottom