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New Army Service Uniform Starting in 2014.....

MMC said:
Some Older news that was released by the Army but will be taking place this next year. Not only will there be this change for the Army. But with Camo Uniforms for all military service. As well as the New uniform for women.

The New Army Service Uniform (ASU).....

The Army announced guidance and transition strategy to the new blue Army Service Uniform (ASU). The
announcement defined the wear policies for the ASU during the transition period.
The Policy changes reflect the input of hundreds of thousands of soldiers from across the service.

The army currently has three service uniforms; green, blue, and white. Enlisted soldiers receive the green service
uniform as part of their basic clothing bag issue when they enter the army during initial entry training. The army further
provides active duty enlisted soldiers an annual clothing allowance to maintain proper fit and appearance of their basic
clothing bag issue items. The army will phase out the green and white service uniforms and retain the blue service
uniform. Soldiers who currently have a blue service uniform can immediately begin wearing it as their ASU.

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The new army ASU will include a new coat and low waist trousers for male soldiers; and a new coat, slacks and skirt
for female soldiers. The new fabric for the ASU is heavier and wrinkle resistant over previously manufactured uniforms
and will consist of 55% wool and 45% polyester material. The new ASU coat will have a tailored, athletic cut, to
improve uniform fit and appearance.

The ASU will include a new improved heavier and wrinkle resistant short and long-sleeved white shirt with permanent
military creases and shoulder loops. The leader's identification insignia (green tab) is not authorized to be worn on the
ASU.

The army will place the new ASU items in the soldier's clothing bag for initial entry soldiers in 4th quarter, FY 2010.
The mandatory possession date for the new ASU items is 4th quarter, FY 2014. The leader's identification insignia
(green tab) is not authorized to be worn on the ASU. The specifics of the new uniform will be published in the new AR
670-1 which is due out sometime in 2011.

Beginning in 4th quarter FY 2009, soldiers have the option to take their official DA photo in the ASU. This is strictly
optional on the Soldiers part. Soldiers can still continue to take their DA photo in the army green service uniform until
the mandatory possession date of 4th quarter FY 2014.....snip~

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New Combat Uniform.

The new blue Army Service Uniform ASU, AR 670-1, new army dress blues

Whatcha thinks? Any leadership role, gets to wear a Gold Stripe even if it is a CPL. According to many they got opinions from Troopers all over the branch. Saying they like it. Also saves them some money this way. How do any Ole Timer Vets feel about this?

Also they will be changes up to the Camos. The Only Ones that will be allowed to have Different type of Camos will be those for Special Forces and Special Ops. Rangers, Delta, Marine Recon, and Navy Seals. All else will have to be the same.
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The full dress hat looks like caca. Really bad.
 
To be honest and fair, I wish like hell the air force would get the hell away from the bus driver uniforms.
 
Ford289HiPo said:
I stand corrected. I seemed to recall a blue digi-cam uniform for the Air Force.

I'll dutifully performed 20 push-up's for my mistake.:lol:
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Actually there was a test blue camo air force uniform, but the color was changed before it was mass produced after probably 99% of the feedback was negative when a few select people wore them around briefly. Those test blue camo uniforms looked awful and were pointless.
 
Porchev said:
Actually there was a test blue camo air force uniform, but the color was changed before it was mass produced after probably 99% of the feedback was negative when a few select people wore them around briefly. Those test blue camo uniforms looked awful and were pointless.
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Why the hell have camos if they are blue unless you are attempting to hide in a bucket of blueberry yogurt?
 
Ford289HiPo said:
I doubt PJ's or Combat Controllers are going to wear blue camo in the field.
Navy? More Blue camo? :doh:doh What's this thing with blue camo? do they want to hid in the waves if they fall overboard? Maybe they want to hid in the galley for that extra cup of coffee.

All the military should go back to the BDU/DCU style uniforms. It was effective, both camo and cost-wise.
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Agreed. Why not just dress USAF Security Forces in orange? Same with ramp rats. Make it easier to snipe everyone on the flight line. :roll:
 
Risky Thicket said:
Why the hell have camos if they are blue unless you are attempting to hide in a bucket of blueberry yogurt?
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Exactly, and that's why the blue camo thing never happened past the test phase. It was changed to the current greenish type color.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Agreed. Why not just dress USAF Security Forces in orange? Same with ramp rats. Make it easier to snipe everyone on the flight line. :roll:
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I don't understand you sarcasm. Orange as a duty uniform vs a BDU/DCU uniform on base?
 
Porchev said:
Actually there was a test blue camo air force uniform, but the color was changed before it was mass produced after probably 99% of the feedback was negative when a few select people wore them around briefly. Those test blue camo uniforms looked awful and were pointless.
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Glad to hear that. I was having trouble getting past 10.................:2razz:
 
MMC said:
Some Older news that was released by the Army but will be taking place this next year. Not only will there be this change for the Army. But with Camo Uniforms for all military service. As well as the New uniform for women.

The New Army Service Uniform (ASU).....

The Army announced guidance and transition strategy to the new blue Army Service Uniform (ASU). The
announcement defined the wear policies for the ASU during the transition period.
The Policy changes reflect the input of hundreds of thousands of soldiers from across the service.

The army currently has three service uniforms; green, blue, and white. Enlisted soldiers receive the green service
uniform as part of their basic clothing bag issue when they enter the army during initial entry training. The army further
provides active duty enlisted soldiers an annual clothing allowance to maintain proper fit and appearance of their basic
clothing bag issue items. The army will phase out the green and white service uniforms and retain the blue service
uniform. Soldiers who currently have a blue service uniform can immediately begin wearing it as their ASU.

510px-US-NEW-CLASS-A-UNIFORM.png


The new army ASU will include a new coat and low waist trousers for male soldiers; and a new coat, slacks and skirt
for female soldiers. The new fabric for the ASU is heavier and wrinkle resistant over previously manufactured uniforms
and will consist of 55% wool and 45% polyester material. The new ASU coat will have a tailored, athletic cut, to
improve uniform fit and appearance.

The ASU will include a new improved heavier and wrinkle resistant short and long-sleeved white shirt with permanent
military creases and shoulder loops. The leader's identification insignia (green tab) is not authorized to be worn on the
ASU.

The army will place the new ASU items in the soldier's clothing bag for initial entry soldiers in 4th quarter, FY 2010.
The mandatory possession date for the new ASU items is 4th quarter, FY 2014. The leader's identification insignia
(green tab) is not authorized to be worn on the ASU. The specifics of the new uniform will be published in the new AR
670-1 which is due out sometime in 2011.

Beginning in 4th quarter FY 2009, soldiers have the option to take their official DA photo in the ASU. This is strictly
optional on the Soldiers part. Soldiers can still continue to take their DA photo in the army green service uniform until
the mandatory possession date of 4th quarter FY 2014.....snip~

new_military_uniform.jpg


New Combat Uniform.

The new blue Army Service Uniform ASU, AR 670-1, new army dress blues

Whatcha thinks? Any leadership role, gets to wear a Gold Stripe even if it is a CPL. According to many they got opinions from Troopers all over the branch. Saying they like it. Also saves them some money this way. How do any Ole Timer Vets feel about this?

Also they will be changes up to the Camos. The Only Ones that will be allowed to have Different type of Camos will be those for Special Forces and Special Ops. Rangers, Delta, Marine Recon, and Navy Seals. All else will have to be the same.
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New? They don't even issue the old "pickle suit" anymore. They started phasing the greens out as far back as 2009. As for camo, get rid of the ACU, and erase it from history. It was a **** uniform from day 1.
 
Ford289HiPo said:
I don't understand you sarcasm. Orange as a duty uniform vs a BDU/DCU uniform on base?
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Blue camo serves no purpose. I would hate to humping the wire or working on the ramp in blue camos in a combat zone. Good way to be sniped. Blue is/was a ridiculous idea.
 
Oozlefinch said:
Yea, but that is a Soviet uniform, so the number of medals is not exactly unexpected. And if you notice, none of those is a really high level award either, more or less along the lines of "Successfully performed toilet monitor duties award".

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Retired Colonel General Vladimir Kovalyonok, cosmonaut for 17 years, commander of 3 missions, twice awarded the Hero of the Soviet Union (medals on his left side), and 3 times the Order of Lenin (medal on his right side). This is closer to how real heroes normally wear their awards, not political hacks.
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Shut the heck up, you're spoiling all the fun. :lol:
 
APACHERAT said:
Being a conservative, it's about customs, traditions and culture. It's the American way.
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What does wearing camouflage have to do with tradition? It's fairly recent that the U.S military adopted camo fatigues (early 80's?), except for the "tiger stripes" used during the Vietnam war. The ridiculous blue camouflage outfits worn by the Air Force and Navy serve no purpose. It's laughable that the Air Force feels the need to wear camouflage indoors, and one more example of how the military wastes money on frivolous things.

Someone in this thread said that there is something very "third world" about U.S military personnel wearing camos in public, and I agree. U.S military garb is quite tacky nowadays. I was watching a documentary on NORAD, and they were showing 1960's footage of Air Force officers in the control room wearing sharp blue class B uniforms. Then later they showed more recent footage in the same room, and everyone was wearing camo and flight suits.
 
APACHERAT said:
One camo pattern for all branches of the military. Sounds like there's a McNamara in the Pentagon or the Democrats are at it again.

So the Army is still going to continue to let soldiers to wear the ACU while off base. Seeing a soldier wearing ACU in town or in an airport looks so third world.

The Army going back to the Marines utility cover ?

Nobody has ever came up with why are sailors wearing cammies aboard ship. Who are they trying to hide from ?
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Apparently anyone trying to rescue them should they fall overboard. :roll:

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Seriously though, this thing point_up.png is freakin' terrible.
 
Graffias said:
What does wearing camouflage have to do with tradition? It's fairly recent that the U.S military adopted camo fatigues (early 80's?), except for the "tiger stripes" used during the Vietnam war. The ridiculous blue camouflage outfits worn by the Air Force and Navy serve no purpose. It's laughable that the Air Force feels the need to wear camouflage indoors, and one more example of how the military wastes money on frivolous things.

Someone in this thread said that there is something very "third world" about U.S military personnel wearing camos in public, and I agree. U.S military garb is quite tacky nowadays. I was watching a documentary on NORAD, and they were showing 1960's footage of Air Force officers in the control room wearing sharp blue class B uniforms. Then later they showed more recent footage in the same room, and everyone was wearing camo and flight suits.
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I mentioned earlier in this thread, the Air Force does not have blue camo uniforms. And believe it or not the USAF does work outside too. Thankfully they can wear something besides their blues, because the vast majority of the people in the USAF would rather wear anything besides blues. For me, up until about a month ago, I wore a flight suit 99% of the time. Flight suits are great because they are just wash and wear.
 
MMC said:
Some Older news that was released by the Army but will be taking place this next year. Not only will there be this change for the Army. But with Camo Uniforms for all military service. As well as the New uniform for women.

The New Army Service Uniform (ASU).....

The Army announced guidance and transition strategy to the new blue Army Service Uniform (ASU). The
announcement defined the wear policies for the ASU during the transition period.
The Policy changes reflect the input of hundreds of thousands of soldiers from across the service.

The army currently has three service uniforms; green, blue, and white. Enlisted soldiers receive the green service
uniform as part of their basic clothing bag issue when they enter the army during initial entry training. The army further
provides active duty enlisted soldiers an annual clothing allowance to maintain proper fit and appearance of their basic
clothing bag issue items. The army will phase out the green and white service uniforms and retain the blue service
uniform. Soldiers who currently have a blue service uniform can immediately begin wearing it as their ASU.

510px-US-NEW-CLASS-A-UNIFORM.png


The new army ASU will include a new coat and low waist trousers for male soldiers; and a new coat, slacks and skirt
for female soldiers. The new fabric for the ASU is heavier and wrinkle resistant over previously manufactured uniforms
and will consist of 55% wool and 45% polyester material. The new ASU coat will have a tailored, athletic cut, to
improve uniform fit and appearance.

The ASU will include a new improved heavier and wrinkle resistant short and long-sleeved white shirt with permanent
military creases and shoulder loops. The leader's identification insignia (green tab) is not authorized to be worn on the
ASU.

The army will place the new ASU items in the soldier's clothing bag for initial entry soldiers in 4th quarter, FY 2010.
The mandatory possession date for the new ASU items is 4th quarter, FY 2014. The leader's identification insignia
(green tab) is not authorized to be worn on the ASU. The specifics of the new uniform will be published in the new AR
670-1 which is due out sometime in 2011.

Beginning in 4th quarter FY 2009, soldiers have the option to take their official DA photo in the ASU. This is strictly
optional on the Soldiers part. Soldiers can still continue to take their DA photo in the army green service uniform until
the mandatory possession date of 4th quarter FY 2014.....snip~

new_military_uniform.jpg


New Combat Uniform.

The new blue Army Service Uniform ASU, AR 670-1, new army dress blues

Whatcha thinks? Any leadership role, gets to wear a Gold Stripe even if it is a CPL. According to many they got opinions from Troopers all over the branch. Saying they like it. Also saves them some money this way. How do any Ole Timer Vets feel about this?

Also they will be changes up to the Camos. The Only Ones that will be allowed to have Different type of Camos will be those for Special Forces and Special Ops. Rangers, Delta, Marine Recon, and Navy Seals. All else will have to be the same.
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We've had the ASU for about 3 years now. This is not news.

We've has the ACU for about 5+ years. That's not news either.

Only officers in my battalion wear the new hat, everyone else still wears the beret.
 
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Graffias said:
What does wearing camouflage have to do with tradition? It's fairly recent that the U.S military adopted camo fatigues (early 80's?), except for the "tiger stripes" used during the Vietnam war. The ridiculous blue camouflage outfits worn by the Air Force and Navy serve no purpose. It's laughable that the Air Force feels the need to wear camouflage indoors, and one more example of how the military wastes money on frivolous things.

Someone in this thread said that there is something very "third world" about U.S military personnel wearing camos in public, and I agree. U.S military garb is quite tacky nowadays. I was watching a documentary on NORAD, and they were showing 1960's footage of Air Force officers in the control room wearing sharp blue class B uniforms. Then later they showed more recent footage in the same room, and everyone was wearing camo and flight suits.
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U.S. Marines started wearing camo utilities during WW ll. But the German Wehrmacht were wearing cammies before the Marines. You just don't notice the cammies in black and white photos.
Back in 69 in Vietnam just about everyone who wasn't in the rear with the gear were being issued cammies.

The Tiger stripe cammies were not American, it was originaly French but was adopted by the South Vietnamese Marines and Rangers. U.S. Army Special Forces would soon follow suit and adopt the tiger stripe cammies.

In the movie "Apocalypse Now" Capt. Willard (Martin Sheene) is wearing a ROK Marine cammo utility jacket. I always got a laugh out of that. When I was with Sub Unit One, 1st ANGLICO and based at Hoi An we all wore ROK Marine camo utilities except we still wore the USMC utility cover.

That was I who said that soldiers wearing their ACU's etc. off base looked "third world." And it does. I'm not a soldier but if I were I would prefer the all khaki tan uniforms of the 50's and 60's for summer and green trousers and blouse with the khaki shirt and tie for the winter. Bring back the garrison cover/hat.
 
APACHERAT said:
U.S. Marines started wearing camo utilities during WW ll. But the German Wehrmacht were wearing cammies before the Marines. You just don't notice the cammies in black and white photos.
Back in 69 in Vietnam just about everyone who wasn't in the rear with the gear were being issued cammies.

The Tiger stripe cammies were not American, it was originaly French but was adopted by the South Vietnamese Marines and Rangers. U.S. Army Special Forces would soon follow suit and adopt the tiger stripe cammies.

In the movie "Apocalypse Now" Capt. Willard (Martin Sheene) is wearing a ROK Marine cammo utility jacket. I always got a laugh out of that. When I was with Sub Unit One, 1st ANGLICO and based at Hoi An we all wore ROK Marine camo utilities except we still wore the USMC utility cover.

That was I who said that soldiers wearing their ACU's etc. off base looked "third world." And it does. I'm not a soldier but if I were I would prefer the all khaki tan uniforms of the 50's and 60's for summer and green trousers and blouse with the khaki shirt and tie for the winter. Bring back the garrison cover/hat.
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We tend to favor the molti-cam uniform.
 
Jerry said:
We tend to favor the molti-cam uniform.
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Before 1942 (WW ll) the American military like all of the worlds militarise went in to combat wearing their dress service uniforms. Both the Marines and Army field uniform was the khaki service uniform. When they went in to the field or in to combat they just added wearing leggings and a cartage belt and a campaign hat or helmet.

The U.S. Marine Corps was the first to adopt a field uniform to be worn for typical garrison duties like cleaning toilets, swabbing the deck, picking up cigarette butts, painting and peeling potatoes and of course rifle drill, a lot of rifle drilling. And the same uniform would be worn in the field and in combat. That Marine uniform was the green sage Herringbone utility jacket and trousers and would remain part of the basic Marine issue until 1965 or 666 when McNamara forced all branches to the military to adopt the Army's olive drab fatigues.

During WW ll the Army would come up with numerous field uniforms but they adopted the olive drab color.

I noticed that the Air Force during the 50's and 60's adopted the Marines Herringbone utilities except they had black metal buttons with a bunch of little stars on the buttons.

The Marines Herringbone utilities were probably the best uniform ever designed for combat. 100 % cotton so it breathed. It was baggy and comfortable. One problem, they wore out fast in combat. They ripped easily and in a jungle environment they rotted quick.

The Army came up with the olive drab jungle fatigues in Vietnam that weren't 100 % cotton so they didn't rip and rot as fast but they were uncomfortable, they didn't breath and you sweated in them. In Vietnam, nobody wore underwear except maybe the REMF's. Wouldn't know. They had the large cargo pockets.

Camouflage and camouflage patterns deserves it's own thread.

Basically;

Woodlands =olive drab
Jungle =sage green or olive green
Urban warfare =grey
Desert= light pink (I #### you not)
Winter/snow = white
 
Jerry said:
We've had the ASU for about 3 years now. This is not news.

We've has the ACU for about 5+ years. That's not news either.

Only officers in my battalion wear the new hat, everyone else still wears the beret.
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That's why I started off the piece with that part about some Older news.....then pointing out it goes into affect for 2014. Notice it was Right there in the very First few words. Was there some sort of confusion you had?
 
APACHERAT said:
The Army came up with the olive drab jungle fatigues in Vietnam that weren't 100 % cotton so they didn't rip and rot as fast but they were uncomfortable, they didn't breath and you sweated in them.
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I loved jungle fatigues. They beat the heck out of heavyweight BDU's.
 
always though this was a cool looking uniform.......please no political crap.

we are discussing unfiorms.
 

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APACHERAT said:
Just what I though, it was Democrats in Congress who are behind having one camo pattern for all army ACU, and Marine utilities and Navy and Air Force wannabe combat uniforms. House Votes to Eliminate Service Camo Patterns | Military.com

I wonder what's next coming down the pipeline ?
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I think it's a wonderful idea. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the BDU. It was worn by all branches, it worked, and Service Members who required a specialized uniform received one. Not on;y do we have 7 different camo patterns floating around, making every multi-branch event look like a gypsy convention, there are different uniform patterns. There's absolutely no reason for that. It's an inexcusable waste, and we need to return back to one standard combat uniform for al;l branches, and no more than two camouflage patterns (woodland and desert).

APACHERAT said:
Being a conservative, it's about customs, traditions and culture. It's the American way.
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That's what Dress Uniforms are for.
 
MMC said:
That's why I started off the piece with that part about some Older news.....then pointing out it goes into affect for 2014. Notice it was Right there in the very First few words. Was there some sort of confusion you had?
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It does not go into effect in 2014. It has been in effect for years.
 
Jerry said:
It does not go into effect in 2014. It has been in effect for years.
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Try again.....Mandatory by 2014 pretty much says it all. :roll:

Beginning in 4th quarter FY 2009, soldiers have the option to take their official DA photo in the ASU. This is strictly
optional on the Soldiers part. Soldiers can still continue to take their DA photo in the army green service uniform until
the mandatory possession date of 4th quarter FY 2014.....snip~
 
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