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    Theoretically: Chinese military VS Japanese military. Who would win?

    Let's imagine the Disputed Island Chain gets out of hand and both sides declare war on eachother.

    Due to a wish to preserve/obtain the disputed Islands, nuclear weapons will not be used only conventional military forces.

    Who would win?

    For a complete military comparison source look here:
    China vs. Japan Military Match-Ups

    Tatics, Personnel, guns, fighter aircraft, tanks, warships, missiles and other weapons systems

    Make your comparisons now


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    Re: Theoretically: Chinese military VS Japanese military. Who would win?

    Stalemate.

    Japan has far to small of a military to ever take on China.

    China lacks everything that would be needed to attack Japan.

    Yet another pointless thread with no reason for existing, other then showing why civilians should generally not try to get involved in military matters.
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    Re: Theoretically: Chinese military VS Japanese military. Who would win?

    Depends on what kind of war we're talking about. Who attacks who? Who invades whose territory? For what purpose? What are the forces each side is willing to commit to the fight? "Disputed Island Chain gets out of hand" isn't a particularly specific scenario.

    The question is way too open ended. It's not as easy as asking "Packers and Patriots go head to head ten times on a neutral site, who wins?"
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    Re: Theoretically: Chinese military VS Japanese military. Who would win?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Depends on what kind of war we're talking about. Who attacks who?
    Well, that is an entirely different kettle of worms.

    If Japan attacks, expect that to never happen. Their constitution forbids any kind of offensive action.

    If China attacks, expect all hell to open up against them. Because the US is obligated by treaty to respond to any agressive action against Japan. So not only is China attacking Japan, they are attacking the US. And with Kadena Air Force Base (as well as several thousand Marines) on Okinawa, expect a response to be done fairly quickly.

    Japan has controlled the Senkaku Islands (also known as the Daioyu Islands) since the 1300's. They controlled them until 1945 when as part of the Ryuku Chain (Okinawa), their control was handed over to the US. Then the US handed them back to Japan in 1972 (along with the Ryuku [Okinawa] Islands).

    And now suddenly China claims they belong to them? Don't make me laugh. For those that do not know, they sit between Taiwan (Taipei, Formosa) and Okinawa. A long ways from the mainland of China. This is a case wher I am glad Japan is taking care of business. Now if we could only get the Russians off the islands they illegally possess.
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    Re: Theoretically: Chinese military VS Japanese military. Who would win?

    No one is going to war over some empty islands.

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    Re: Theoretically: Chinese military VS Japanese military. Who would win?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joechilli View Post
    Let's imagine the Disputed Island Chain gets out of hand and both sides declare war on eachother.

    Due to a wish to preserve/obtain the disputed Islands, nuclear weapons will not be used only conventional military forces.

    Who would win?

    For a complete military comparison source look here:
    China vs. Japan Military Match-Ups

    Tatics, Personnel, guns, fighter aircraft, tanks, warships, missiles and other weapons systems

    Make your comparisons now

    The Chinese have over 1 million men in their Army - today -. They have almost 1 billion that they can call up at a whim.

    What was your question again?
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    Re: Theoretically: Chinese military VS Japanese military. Who would win?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    The Chinese have over 1 million men in their Army - today -. They have almost 3 billion that they can call up at a whim.

    What was your question again?
    How is that possible in a nation with a population of 1.3 billion?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

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    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Theoretically: Chinese military VS Japanese military. Who would win?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    The Chinese have over 1 million men in their Army - today -. They have almost 3 billion that they can call up at a whim.

    What was your question again?
    Hope they can swim like dolphins if that's going to matter in a conflict with Japan

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    Re: Theoretically: Chinese military VS Japanese military. Who would win?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    How is that possible in a nation with a population of 1.3 billion?
    Like it matters . . . okay 1 billion . . . over 128 million

    You do the math
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    Re: Theoretically: Chinese military VS Japanese military. Who would win?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Like it matters . . . okay 1 billion . . . over 128 million

    You do the math
    You've grossly shown you're ignorant of a basic fact about China but you still want to comment on its military like you know what you're talking about. :/

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